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Post by George Carlin Tue 15 Sep 2015, 11:14 am

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IRELAND v CANADA
19 September 2015
KO: 14:30 BST
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Glen Jackson (New Zealand)
Touch judges: Pascal Gaüzère (France) & Mike Fraser (New Zealand)
Television match official: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
5 Won 0
1 Drawn 1
0 Lost 5
226 Points 77

B. Recent Form

Sat 30 May 1987
Canada 19 - 46 Ireland

Sun 30 Nov1997
Ireland 33 - 11 Canada

Sat 17 Jun 2000
Canada 27 - 27 Ireland

Sat 8 Nov 2008
Ireland 55 - 0 Canada

Sat 23 May 2009
Canada 6 - 25 Ireland

Sat 15 Jun 2013
Canada 14 - 40 Ireland

C. Teams


IRELAND
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[tbc]

CANADA
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1. Hubert Buydens – (Unattached/Prairie Wolf Pack) Saskatoon, SK
2. Ray Barkwill – (Unattached/Ontario Blues) Niagara Falls, ON
3. Doug Wooldridge – (Lindsay RFC/Ontario Blues) Lindsay, ON
4. Brett Beukeboom – (Cornish Pirates) Lindsay, ON
5. Jamie Cudmore, Captain – (Clermont Auvergne) Squamish, BC
6. Kyle Gilmour – (Rotherham Titans/Prairie Wolf Pack) St. Albert, AB
7. John Moonlight – (James Bay AA/Ontario Blues) Pickering, ON
8. Aaron Carpenter – (Cornish Pirates/Ontario Blues) Brantford, ON
9. Gordon McRorie – (Calgary Hornets/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
10. Nathan Hirayama – (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC
11. DTH van der Merwe – (Scarlets) Victoria, BC
12. Nick Blevins – (Calgary Hornets/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
13. Ciaran Hearn – (Unattached/Atlantic Rock) Conception Bay South, NL
14. Jeff Hassler – (Ospreys) Okotoks, AB
15. Matt Evans - (Cornish Pirates) Maple Bay, BC

16. Benoit Piffero – (Unattached/Atlantic Rock) Montreal, QC
17. Djustice Sears-Duru – (Oakville Crusaders/Ontario Blues) Oakville, ON
18. Andrew Tiedemann - (Unattached/Prairie Wolf Pack) St. Albert, AB
19. Jebb Sinclair – (London Irish/Atlantic Rock) Fredericton, NB
20. Richard Thorpe – (London Welsh) Beckenham, England
21. Phil Mack – (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Victoria, BC
22. Liam Underwood – (Balmy Beach RFC/Ontario Blues) Toronto, ON
23. Conor Trainor – (UBCOB Ravens/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC

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Tyler Ardron – (Ospreys) Lakefield, ON
Harry Jones – (Capilano RFC/BC Bears) West Vancouver, BC
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Post by Golden Thu 17 Sep 2015, 2:49 pm

As long as we still come home with the trophy billy thumbsup

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Post by Notch Thu 17 Sep 2015, 2:52 pm

I think what I'm concerned about here is that Fitzgerald and Payne have never once played together and Fitzgerald has hardly played this position at all.

In other overlooked news; Devin Toner is left out entirely.
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Post by SecretFly Thu 17 Sep 2015, 2:55 pm

Toner is saved for later is I think how I might read it

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Post by eirebilly Thu 17 Sep 2015, 2:55 pm

Golden, if Ireland come home with the trophy I will be amazed. I would love to see them get to the Semi Finals.
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Post by GunsGerms Thu 17 Sep 2015, 2:56 pm

Notch wrote:I think what I'm concerned about here is that Fitzgerald and Payne have never once played together and Fitzgerald has hardly played this position at all.

In other overlooked news; Devin Toner is left out entirely.

So has Bowe.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Thu 17 Sep 2015, 3:30 pm

SecretFly wrote:Toner is saved for later is I think how I might read it

Don't know about that. There is a need for Henderson's physicality. Toner isn't a great bench option apparently. Though Toner's key is being a very safe option on our lineouts and a b@st@rd to get the ball around on opposition lineouts. If Best/Cronin have one of their many off days with the darts, not having Toner available will cause plenty of issues (no point kicking the corner if we can't be assured of winning our own ball).

No need to worry about Luke at 12, chances are he tweaks something during the warm-up anyway! Cave better get suited up for the inevitable.

Don't agree with Healy from the bench. You should be starting him. If he can only do 20 minutes then fine, sub him off. But having Jack start, come off at 40-50 minutes and potentially go back on at 60-70 minutes isn't the correct approach (am I mistaken to think that would also burn 2 substitutions taking game time from someone else?).

Hopefully Henshaw is only a slight twinge and they are just being precautionary with a view to the bigger games to come.

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Post by SecretFly Thu 17 Sep 2015, 3:44 pm

I'm not saying Toner is God, bandwagon. Wink No, I'd agree with you on that one.

He ain't perfect by any means but it's just often surprising how effective he can be in big games where ...well, maybe a degree of logic based on physicality and meanness of spirit would suggest he should be made look quite ordinary and limited.

I've often worried about him in the past with his lack of bulk...but he's filled out and he just seems to be better than maybe warped sense predicts he should be!

I think he'll be part of important games coming.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Thu 17 Sep 2015, 4:25 pm

SecretFly wrote:I'm not saying Toner is God, bandwagon. Wink  No, I'd agree with you on that one.  

He ain't perfect by any means but it's just often surprising how effective he can be in big games where ...well, maybe a degree of logic based on physicality and meanness of spirit would suggest he should be made look quite ordinary and limited.

I've often worried about him in the past with his lack of bulk...but he's filled out and he just seems to be better than maybe warped sense predicts he should be!

I think he'll be part of important games coming.  

Not looking to take you down buddy Hug Toner's height, kind of like Bayfield in the day means his bulk is kind of hidden on such a large frame. But Toner isn't a bench option because what he gives you is stability as opposed to impact. And the Irish bench is now a weapon to unleash weapons from, stability doesn't have a place there.

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Post by The Boss Sat 19 Sep 2015, 12:24 pm

Game in 2 hours lads. Mobody watching it? Just me then? Ye? 9.30 kick off in Australia with watery Guinness.

Ireland on the handicap at -43. Think I'll leave that alone. Buzzing for it to get going.

Hon the lads

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Post by profitius Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:00 pm

Ireland are -43 Shocked
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Post by Guest Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:06 pm

Anyone know why the organisers dictated the roof be shut for all games at the MS? They decided this before the tournament. It's lovely weather today! Seems a shame.

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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:20 pm

Ireland should be aiming for a winning margin like that. I'm going to say Ireland by 30... and really hope they don't let me down in terms of being accurate and ruthless.
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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:21 pm

Griff wrote:Anyone know why the organisers dictated the roof be shut for all games at the MS? They decided this before the tournament. It's lovely weather today! Seems a shame.

I agree. The roof is great for really extreme weather but it's an outdoor sport.

My guess is that the organisers have made that decision to try and generate as much of an atmosphere as possible.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:23 pm

This Canada team is woefully off form and lost all their RWC warm up matches. A lot of Canadian fans on other forums are calling for the coaches head.

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:31 pm

Pretty excited now. Fingers crossed for no injuries.

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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:34 pm

good luck both teams, hoping for an exciting game

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Post by B91212 Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:36 pm

Better start from Canada than I expected.

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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:41 pm

Too many balls hitting the ground for my liking.
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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:48 pm

Notch wrote:Too many balls hitting the ground for my liking.

i think all teams are going to be nervous going into the first game.

some good breakdown work by Canada

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:49 pm

Ireland are being allowed whatever they want, not releasing the player, tackling in the air, tackling without the ball. You name it.

Disgusting Poopie really.

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:50 pm

Cudmore gone already.

Who had within 20 mins?


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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:50 pm

The lineout is our most dependable attacking weapon.
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Post by B91212 Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:52 pm

Hearst yellow (only joking). Jackson did seem to be favouring Ireland leading up to the yellow though. Even the pen before looked like Ross was holding on.

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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:56 pm

Ireland using that move a lot already

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Post by B91212 Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:57 pm

Clever play by Ireland going wide quickly when Canada had moved a center into the scrum

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:01 pm

Lovely kick from Sexton

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:03 pm

Lovely move there.

Racking up the score quite early.

Hopefully they keep at this intensity for 80 mins.

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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:06 pm

The game is being played at a huge intensity. Canada have came to play and so have we. Enjoyable stuff.
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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:09 pm

Well, thats the bonus point sealed up before half-time. Happy.
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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:10 pm

That was a quick bonus point.

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Post by rodders Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:11 pm

Can all the believers move to the left! king
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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:12 pm

Ross would have loved to get the ball there.

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:12 pm

Fitz did very well there setting up DK

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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:12 pm

starting to look easy for Ireland

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:13 pm

Why is Fitzgerald so orange?

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:13 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Why is Fitzgerald so orange?

Been hanging out with a few of the Welsh team while in Cardiff. Picked up a few bad habits.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:17 pm

I know this is Canada but I am very happy to see Ireland actually showing some attacking intent. This is what I have been waiting to see, Ireland practicing their attacking moves in match situations.
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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:19 pm

Well done to Fitzgerald for applying the pressure to force the mistake. Feel almost disappointed for Canada there not to get something from the half. They've fronted up, but Ireland playing at a higher level than can deal with when Cudmore went off.
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:20 pm

Great work by Ireland in the first half.


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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:22 pm

Yup unfortunate for the Canadians. The defence has been a big weak point during the warm ups so would be nice to keep them out for the whole game.

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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:24 pm

The question is now do Ireland look after key players in the second half, unleash the replacements.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:24 pm

I was really questioning Fitz for 12 in this match but he has certainly done very well so far, stand out centre for Ireland so far today.

Henderson has been simply brilliant, for me he is only slightly edging Sexton as Irelands best player so far.

Nice setup from Fitz for Dave Kearney's try but Dave showed a very clean set of heels and an eye for the line as well.
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Post by Marshes Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:30 pm

Ireland each time at the restart pretending to lift O Brien then letting Kearney take it behind them

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:33 pm

Wouldnt mind seeing Madigan get some minutes at 9 before shifting out to replace Sexton.

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Post by profitius Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:35 pm

How was POC offside?
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Post by Notch Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:35 pm

That was very indisciplined from O'Connell there.
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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:36 pm

profitius wrote:How was POC offside?

he wasnt but he slapped the ball down

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Post by Golden Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:36 pm

Ref said he was offside when he showed the card.

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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:39 pm

Golden wrote:Ref said he was offside when he showed the card.

ah rightl well he got it right outcome imo

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Post by B91212 Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:40 pm

I'm not having a go at Ireland here because all teams do it but why is it acceptable to tackle with no arms when defending the line? All teams do it but it gets on my nerves.

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