SF2: Argentina v Australia, 25 October

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ARGENTINA v AUSTRALIA

25 October 2015
16:00 BST (UTC+01)
Twickenham, London

Live on [TBC]

Ref: Wayne Barnes (England)
ARs: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) & George Clancy (A World Of His Own)
TMO: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

24 Played 24
5 Won 18
1 Drawn 1
18 Lost 5
372 Points 644

B. Recent Form

25 July 2015
Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
9 – 34 to Australia

4 October 2014
Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
21 – 17 to Argentina

13 September 2014
Cbus Super Stadium, Gold Coast
32 – 25 to Australia

5 October 2013
Gigante de Arroyito, Rosario
17 – 54 to Australia

14 September 2013
Subiaco Oval, Perth
14 – 13 to Australia

6 October 2012
Gigante de Arroyito, Rosario
19 – 25 to Australia

15 September 2012
Skilled Park, Gold Coast
23 – 19 to Australia

10 October 2003
Stadium Australia, Sydney
24 – 8 to Australia

C. TEAMS:

ARGENTINA

Tuculet; Cordero, Bosch, J Hernandez, Imhoff; Sanchez, Landajo; Ayerza, Creevy, Herrera; Petti Pagadizabal, Lavanini; Matera, Fernandez Lobbe, Senatore.

Replacements: Amorosino for Imhoff (19) De la Fuente for J Hernandez (44), Cubelli for Landajo (56), Figallo for Herrera (61), Alemanno for Petti Pagadizabal (58), Noguera for Matera (64), Isa for Senatore (49).

Not Used: Montoya.

AUSTRALIA

Folau; Ashley-Cooper, Kuridrani, Giteau, Mitchell; Foley, Genia; Slipper, Moore, Kepu; Douglas, Simmons; Fardy, Hooper, Pocock.

Replacements: Toomua for Folau (64), Beale for Giteau (47), Phipps for Genia (67), Smith for Slipper (53), Polota-Nau for Moore (60), Holmes for Kepu (53), Mumm for Simmons (67), McCalman for Fardy (56).

Lots of blood already, its a physical game but it hasn't seemed overly physical.

Hmmm, that's a 50/50 call for me.

Probably not the first yellow Argentina will see today.

Softest yellow card i have ever seen, go home Barnes

I was about to say good refereeing there from Barnes for giving the benefit of the doubt but he issued a yellow card, poor decision in my mind. He did try to use his arms.

Wise up.

it is, it isn't it is, slow motion, real time, benefit of the doubt...yellow...

Why wasn't Lydiate yellowed v England?

Poor decision to get the yellow out.

He gave a proper description of why it was a yellow. The crowd unfairly in his back

That wasn't even a penalty as far as i'm concerned let alone a yellow card. Is this rugby or ballet dancing? i'm not sure.

nathan wrote:Hmmm, that's a 50/50 call for me.

Barely a penalty. He slipped!

wolfball wrote:

nathan wrote:Hmmm, that's a 50/50 call for me.

Barely a penalty. He slipped!

Lol, no he didn't. The damage that those tackles cause

the inconsistency of officiating between matches continues

He was correct. He had plenty of time to wrap his arms given the run up. Could not have been a late wrap

Nice offload from Barnes for that try

I think those tackles should be penalised, but a yellow card for that tackle was an extremely harsh decision and the inconsistency is appalling.

VinceWLB wrote:That wasn't even a penalty as far as i'm concerned let alone a yellow card. Is this rugby or ballet dancing? i'm not sure.

I can see why I would have been awarded a penalty and thought that Barnes was going to give the correct decision but the YC was harsh.

The Aussies running away with this now.

What are ARG doing? Brain dead stuff

shame nobody spotted the forward pass off the back of the scrum move before that try

eirebilly wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:That wasn't even a penalty as far as i'm concerned let alone a yellow card. Is this rugby or ballet dancing? i'm not sure.

I can see why I would have been awarded a penalty and thought that Barnes was going to give the correct decision but the YC was harsh.

The Aussies running away with this now.

That was like only the 2nd penalty offence from Arg the whole game too..

That long pass from Giteau that set up the last DM try was a beauty.

Oh dear Lord....how many times do I have to hear the term 'exit strategy '

AAAARRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

Arg just keep kicking the ball back

What a shame for the Pumas, so close.

never a knock on?

Heaf wrote:never a knock on?

Easily a knock on!

looked like it hit his hand and went backwards before hitting the ground to me?

How was that not a penalty for Arg at the scrum?

GeordieFalcon wrote:Oh dear Lord....how many times do I have to hear the term 'exit strategy '

AAAARRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

Is that when someone kicks the ball?

19-9, Argentina have the players to come up with moments of brilliance to come back from this, but they can't lose their heads.

VinceWLB wrote:How was that not a penalty for Arg at the scrum?

I'm guessing you want arg to win?

Australia scored three tries to zero but the Argies are still in touch, as expected only one team in it, bot helped by a poor ref. I hope Barnes is not around for the final.

Ah. So SH supporters boo too

Thought it was just the evil NH

Yes I am a bitter and twisted man lol

nathan wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:How was that not a penalty for Arg at the scrum?

I'm guessing you want arg to win?

Who doesn't?

Alun if you were to put a few quid on Nigel Owens to ref the Final, I think that would be an extremely safe bet.

glamorganalun wrote:Australia scored three tries to zero but the Argies are still in touch, as expected only one team in it, bot helped by a poor ref. I hope Barnes is not around for the final.

But the first one does not count as it was an interception lol

Notch wrote:Alun if you were to put a few quid on Nigel Owens to ref the Final, I think that would be an extremely safe bet.

All the semi final teams have already been told he would be reffing it

glamorganalun wrote:Australia scored three tries to zero but the Argies are still in touch, as expected only one team in it, bot helped by a poor ref. I hope Barnes is not around for the final.

Thought that he was very good in the first half, the YC aside that is.

Australia well in command at the moment,some beutefull moves from Giteu to Adam ashley cooper.

Argentin are looking out on their feet to be honest. looking forward to the second half...but can only see Australia pulling away in the second half.

On a side note what happend to that James O'conner that used too play for Australia?

eirebilly wrote:

glamorganalun wrote:Australia scored three tries to zero but the Argies are still in touch, as expected only one team in it, bot helped by a poor ref. I hope Barnes is not around for the final.

Thought that he was very good in the first half, the YC aside that is.

Few folks on here will be moaning about him regardless of his performance due to his nationality

eirebilly wrote:

glamorganalun wrote:Australia scored three tries to zero but the Argies are still in touch, as expected only one team in it, bot helped by a poor ref. I hope Barnes is not around for the final.

Thought that he was very good in the first half, the YC aside that is.

I think I may have to look at that comment of your in real time!

Now in slow motion.

In realtime again, different angle please.

Benefit of the doubt for you billy. It's only a yellow for foolish comment.

Only ten points in it, despite being well behind the eight ball soo far.
If Argentina score a try first, this is back on

If Australia win, this World Cup will go down as a) boring b) even more remembered for a refereeing error.

World Rugby really need to look at themselves and open up the game. How is England playing France three times a year, as did Ireland and New Zealand, good for the game?

International rugby is far to closed shop.

SecretFly wrote:

eirebilly wrote:

glamorganalun wrote:Australia scored three tries to zero but the Argies are still in touch, as expected only one team in it, bot helped by a poor ref. I hope Barnes is not around for the final.

Thought that he was very good in the first half, the YC aside that is.

I think I may have to look at that comment of your in real time!

Now in slow motion.

In realtime again, different angle please.

Benefit of the doubt for you billy.  It's only a yellow for foolish comment.

Not sure I follow you here Fly?

Personally, I quite like the way Barnes referee's.

Arg making silly errors and now losing their top players

If arg can keep chipping away...

Argentina are playing their way not Australia's and improving.

What the hell was that, how the bloody hell does a professional player think they can get away with playing it on the floor so obviously

Foolish by Argentina. More composure and they would be right in it. They have regressed in the match,

stupidity