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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 1:03 pm

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Well, since the last thread got terminated, I thought I'd open a new one as I think Trump's Presidency is potentially quite an important event (one way or the other), so we should talk about it.

Let's at least try to argue points raised rather than sling any personal insults (not that I mind).

To kick off, what on Earth is that Kellyanne Conway doing promoting Ivanka Trump's fashion line and does the Donald seriously think it's OK to weigh in as he's done??? With any luck, some legal eagles will tear Conway down somewhat and someone (anyone!) will convince Trump to stop tweeting. In fact, does anyone in the Administration know what they're doing? A less suitable press officer than Spicer is hard to imagine but to be fair to the guy, it must be difficult fielding media comments when he's having to make it up on the hoof.
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Post by GSC on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 7:57 pm

Trump pulls out of Paris.

Not a sentence as surprising as you'd think.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 11:30 am

Good move...The agreement was costly and ineffective....

Shows he has got bollox and can lead..

Won't do him any harm at all..

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Post by GSC on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 11:32 am

Won't hurt his standing among his supporters, won't help among his detractors. Next
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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 2:27 pm

GSC wrote:Trump pulls out of Paris.

Not a sentence as surprising as you'd think.
Laugh

Nothing surprises me about that Idiocracy anymore...
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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 2:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Good move...The agreement was costly and ineffective....

Shows he has got bollox and can lead..

Won't do him any harm at all..
Shows nothing of the sort. Well, maybe that he's a Grade A cretin, but I don't think anyone needed that confirming.
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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 2:56 pm

It shows that he's in the pocket of the oil and coal industry.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:07 pm

If it was called the trump deal or Detroit deal he'd still be in it

He's genuinely that stupid
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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:18 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Good move...The agreement was costly and ineffective....

Shows he has got bollox and can lead..

Won't do him any harm at all..

Also, this was hilarious. This illustrates perfectly how Americans think and how the rest of the world thinks.

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Post by Samo on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:29 pm

"Why is the Earth a dried up, sun scorched, arid wasteland Daddy?"

"Well son, this women had a private email account..."

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:34 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Good move...The agreement was costly and ineffective....

Shows he has got bollox and can lead..

Won't do him any harm at all..

Also, this was hilarious. This illustrates perfectly how Americans think and how the rest of the world thinks.

What a silly post.

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Post by Scottrf on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:35 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Good move...The agreement was costly and ineffective....

Shows he has got bollox and can lead..

Won't do him any harm at all..

Also, this was hilarious. This illustrates perfectly how Americans think and how the rest of the world thinks.

What a silly post.  

It was. You regret it now?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:38 pm

Pr4wn wrote:It shows that he's in the pocket of the oil and coal industry.

You learn something new everyday.

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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 4:00 pm

Yes, certainly. I mean, appointing a former CEO of Exxon with zero diplomatic or political experience as your Secretary of State wasn't enough of a clue, I suppose.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 4:15 pm

Good to have people with outside experience.


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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 5:04 pm

Better to have someone that knows what they're doing.

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Post by GSC on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 5:07 pm

CEO of Exxon probably has more experience wining and dining vips than your typical politician tbh.
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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 5:09 pm

But none in diplomacy and the workings of politics. To assume that being Secretary of State is just "wining and dining VIPs" is a little ignorant.

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Post by GSC on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 5:11 pm

I deeply suspect the CEO of a major oil company knows politicians and their business quite intimately
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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 6:38 pm

To suggest that he is better qualified for this job than a seasoned politician is ludicrous, and you know it.

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Post by GSC on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 6:51 pm

A large part of his job is to be a seasoned politician. And given it pays better, he's probably a lot better than most
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 8:08 pm

A large part of his job is to secure the profits of his company, of which the similarities to "represent a varied and democratic system of values and needs" is not really comparable

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 1:58 pm

Incredible that the huge scandal surrounding the POTUS is hardly even worthy of discussion on this forum. These headlines are daily now.

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Post by Ent on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 2:50 pm

It is just so farcical and ridiculous that people are fatigued by it.

Maybe that is part of trumps plan.

The man is just such a grade a bumhole he still spends his time ragging on Obama and Hilary instead of doing some actual work.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 2:59 pm

Yep, he's about as much of an ar5ehole as it's possible to be. The fact he's POTUS should be a concern for everyone and certainly for the American political scene.
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 3:02 pm

Did anyone see his speech to the boy scouts???

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Post by Ent on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 3:14 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Did anyone see his speech to the boy scouts???

Read about it, was a disgrace.

Things like this are a common occurrence with him.

Distraction whilst he pulls insurance out from under 20 million people? Not sure he's smart enough for that.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 4:16 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Did anyone see his speech to the boy scouts???
Read about it. Typical of the man. He doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything except himself.
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 26 Jul 2017, 4:59 pm

This was pretty good:

"Trump makes Nixon look like a true statesman and a venerable historic figure. In fact Nixon's foreign policy initiatives - breaking the ice with China, and facing the reality the Vietnam war was un-winnable, were farsighted and with hindsight, laudable achievements. That's not to say he was not an extremely devious character, capable of almost anything to bring an opponent down, as Watergate bears witness to, but Trump has no redeeming features whatsoever, he is a complete idiot on the world stage, hopelessly out of place, understands nothing about any protocols, acts like a drunken boor at a wedding, simply the worst kind of embarrassing guest anyone could have to put up with.
Every day brings yet more madness from this absurdly vain, self obsessed ignoramus, he doesn't even have the guile of past dictators of the world, Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro were all actually highly intelligent men in their own Machiavellian ways, as well as being monsters, they didn't just swank around boasting about themselves all day, they actually did stuff, terrible as it was, Trump does nothing except play golf, openly boasts he's never read a book, wallows in his own ignorance as though it were a mark of honour. His imbecility literally leaves you speechless, it makes me despair that we have to live through his time in office, why could not the same fate befall him as befell good men like Kennedy & King, but he'll probably live to be a hundred."

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Post by Galted on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 9:11 am

Pr4wn wrote:This was pretty good:

"Trump makes Nixon look like a true statesman and a venerable historic figure. In fact Nixon's foreign policy initiatives - breaking the ice with China, and facing the reality the Vietnam war was un-winnable, were farsighted and with hindsight, laudable achievements. That's not to say he was not an extremely devious character, capable of almost anything to bring an opponent down, as Watergate bears witness to, but Trump has no redeeming features whatsoever, he is a complete idiot on the world stage, hopelessly out of place, understands nothing about any protocols, acts like a drunken boor at a wedding, simply the worst kind of embarrassing guest anyone could have to put up with.
Every day brings yet more madness from this absurdly vain, self obsessed ignoramus, he doesn't even have the guile of past dictators of the world, Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro were all actually highly intelligent men in their own Machiavellian ways, as well as being monsters, they didn't just swank around boasting about themselves all day, they actually did stuff, terrible as it was, Trump does nothing except play golf, openly boasts he's never read a book, wallows in his own ignorance as though it were a mark of honour. His imbecility literally leaves you speechless, it makes me despair that we have to live through his time in office, why could not the same fate befall him as befell good men like Kennedy & King, but he'll probably live to be a hundred."

Laugh

I don't see what the problem with Trump being president in if it results in articles like this. Far more entertaining than the fawning, insipid drivel written about Obama and how cool and chilled he is.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 9:16 am

Galted wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:This was pretty good:

"Trump makes Nixon look like a true statesman and a venerable historic figure. In fact Nixon's foreign policy initiatives - breaking the ice with China, and facing the reality the Vietnam war was un-winnable, were farsighted and with hindsight, laudable achievements. That's not to say he was not an extremely devious character, capable of almost anything to bring an opponent down, as Watergate bears witness to, but Trump has no redeeming features whatsoever, he is a complete idiot on the world stage, hopelessly out of place, understands nothing about any protocols, acts like a drunken boor at a wedding, simply the worst kind of embarrassing guest anyone could have to put up with.
Every day brings yet more madness from this absurdly vain, self obsessed ignoramus, he doesn't even have the guile of past dictators of the world, Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro were all actually highly intelligent men in their own Machiavellian ways, as well as being monsters, they didn't just swank around boasting about themselves all day, they actually did stuff, terrible as it was, Trump does nothing except play golf, openly boasts he's never read a book, wallows in his own ignorance as though it were a mark of honour. His imbecility literally leaves you speechless, it makes me despair that we have to live through his time in office, why could not the same fate befall him as befell good men like Kennedy & King, but he'll probably live to be a hundred."

Laugh

I don't see what the problem with Trump being president in if it results in articles like this. Far more entertaining than the fawning, insipid drivel written about Obama and how cool and chilled he is.
Hmm. Personally, I'd rather dull, insipid articles about decent people and Presidents than entertaining articles about potentially dangerous ar5eholes.
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Post by Galted on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 9:24 am

navyblueshorts wrote:
Galted wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:This was pretty good:

"Trump makes Nixon look like a true statesman and a venerable historic figure. In fact Nixon's foreign policy initiatives - breaking the ice with China, and facing the reality the Vietnam war was un-winnable, were farsighted and with hindsight, laudable achievements. That's not to say he was not an extremely devious character, capable of almost anything to bring an opponent down, as Watergate bears witness to, but Trump has no redeeming features whatsoever, he is a complete idiot on the world stage, hopelessly out of place, understands nothing about any protocols, acts like a drunken boor at a wedding, simply the worst kind of embarrassing guest anyone could have to put up with.
Every day brings yet more madness from this absurdly vain, self obsessed ignoramus, he doesn't even have the guile of past dictators of the world, Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro were all actually highly intelligent men in their own Machiavellian ways, as well as being monsters, they didn't just swank around boasting about themselves all day, they actually did stuff, terrible as it was, Trump does nothing except play golf, openly boasts he's never read a book, wallows in his own ignorance as though it were a mark of honour. His imbecility literally leaves you speechless, it makes me despair that we have to live through his time in office, why could not the same fate befall him as befell good men like Kennedy & King, but he'll probably live to be a hundred."

Laugh

I don't see what the problem with Trump being president in if it results in articles like this. Far more entertaining than the fawning, insipid drivel written about Obama and how cool and chilled he is.
Hmm. Personally, I'd rather dull, insipid articles about decent people and Presidents than entertaining articles about potentially dangerous ar5eholes.

You may be right about him being dangerous but I harbour a hope that the chiefs of staff have set up a PlayStation and 4k TV in the oval office so he can play Civilization all day and think he's conquering the world.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 10:28 am

Galted wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Galted wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:This was pretty good:

"Trump makes Nixon look like a true statesman and a venerable historic figure. In fact Nixon's foreign policy initiatives - breaking the ice with China, and facing the reality the Vietnam war was un-winnable, were farsighted and with hindsight, laudable achievements. That's not to say he was not an extremely devious character, capable of almost anything to bring an opponent down, as Watergate bears witness to, but Trump has no redeeming features whatsoever, he is a complete idiot on the world stage, hopelessly out of place, understands nothing about any protocols, acts like a drunken boor at a wedding, simply the worst kind of embarrassing guest anyone could have to put up with.
Every day brings yet more madness from this absurdly vain, self obsessed ignoramus, he doesn't even have the guile of past dictators of the world, Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro were all actually highly intelligent men in their own Machiavellian ways, as well as being monsters, they didn't just swank around boasting about themselves all day, they actually did stuff, terrible as it was, Trump does nothing except play golf, openly boasts he's never read a book, wallows in his own ignorance as though it were a mark of honour. His imbecility literally leaves you speechless, it makes me despair that we have to live through his time in office, why could not the same fate befall him as befell good men like Kennedy & King, but he'll probably live to be a hundred."

Laugh

I don't see what the problem with Trump being president in if it results in articles like this. Far more entertaining than the fawning, insipid drivel written about Obama and how cool and chilled he is.
Hmm. Personally, I'd rather dull, insipid articles about decent people and Presidents than entertaining articles about potentially dangerous ar5eholes.

You may be right about him being dangerous but I harbour a hope that the chiefs of staff have set up a PlayStation and 4k TV in the oval office so he can play Civilization all day and think he's conquering the world.
Here's hoping...!
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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 1:59 pm

Galted wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Galted wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:This was pretty good:

"Trump makes Nixon look like a true statesman and a venerable historic figure. In fact Nixon's foreign policy initiatives - breaking the ice with China, and facing the reality the Vietnam war was un-winnable, were farsighted and with hindsight, laudable achievements. That's not to say he was not an extremely devious character, capable of almost anything to bring an opponent down, as Watergate bears witness to, but Trump has no redeeming features whatsoever, he is a complete idiot on the world stage, hopelessly out of place, understands nothing about any protocols, acts like a drunken boor at a wedding, simply the worst kind of embarrassing guest anyone could have to put up with.
Every day brings yet more madness from this absurdly vain, self obsessed ignoramus, he doesn't even have the guile of past dictators of the world, Hitler, Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hussein, Castro were all actually highly intelligent men in their own Machiavellian ways, as well as being monsters, they didn't just swank around boasting about themselves all day, they actually did stuff, terrible as it was, Trump does nothing except play golf, openly boasts he's never read a book, wallows in his own ignorance as though it were a mark of honour. His imbecility literally leaves you speechless, it makes me despair that we have to live through his time in office, why could not the same fate befall him as befell good men like Kennedy & King, but he'll probably live to be a hundred."

Laugh

I don't see what the problem with Trump being president in if it results in articles like this. Far more entertaining than the fawning, insipid drivel written about Obama and how cool and chilled he is.
Hmm. Personally, I'd rather dull, insipid articles about decent people and Presidents than entertaining articles about potentially dangerous ar5eholes.

You may be right about him being dangerous but I harbour a hope that the chiefs of staff have set up a PlayStation and 4k TV in the oval office so he can play Civilization all day and think he's conquering the world.

Let's hope it's on "Settler" difficulty.

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Post by GSC on Fri 28 Jul 2017, 9:01 am

McCains been waiting to deliver a revenge blow to Trump, and what a blow it was.
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Post by Pr4wn on Fri 28 Jul 2017, 1:40 pm

"The Mooch" seems like a lovely fellow.

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Post by GSC on Mon 31 Jul 2017, 8:00 pm

Another one bites the dust.

Even by Trump standards, this has been a pretty humiliating few weeks
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Post by Pr4wn on Mon 31 Jul 2017, 10:07 pm

The Mooch, we hardly knew ye.

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Post by dummy_half on Tue 01 Aug 2017, 10:12 am

GSC wrote:Another one bites the dust.

Even by Trump standards, this has been a pretty humiliating few weeks

Trump commenting that it was a great day at the White House. Seriously the man is delusional, as all this does is show his appalling judgement is who he is appointing to the various roles in his close staff.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 01 Aug 2017, 8:46 pm

He's a bell-end, propped up by the deluded and scammed. I like how he appears to want to appoint military men, as if that makes things look organised or somehow assuages his guilt over avoiding the Vietnam draft, insulting McCain or that 'Gold Star' family.
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Post by dyrewolfe on Thu 03 Aug 2017, 2:05 pm

I'm pretty sure he still thinks he's filming The Apprentice and that regularly hiring and firing people willy nilly will win ratings...I mean voter approval.

Also, being forced to sign a piece of legislation he doesn't even approve of just shows he's basically a puppet controlled by Congress. His petulant Tweets afterwards only reinforce his image as a spoilt rich kid who never grew up.

Seems one of the scenarios I predicted is playing out. Absolute chaos in the White House where only yes-men are tolerated. Alienation from the rest of government who appear to be taking a stand against him and making many of his election promises look empty.

Way things are going at the moment I don't see Donny winning a second term.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 8:15 am

Think GOP Senators may seek to enforce LBJ's 25th Amendment and move Trump out on Health grounds if things get too bad...Use Pence as an Acting President..

Problems for the GOP when it comes to impeachment are..

1. Economy is doing better than when he arrived in January...

2. Plenty more jobs.

3. Trump has a positive rating in the South East and the rust belt states..

4. Trump brought in non voters and floaters in 2016...The GOP Senators and Congressmen will think as well as the tribal vote..Trump may add a few of them to the ticket.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 10:37 am

The 'man' is a p***k:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-real-fake-news_uk_598805a2e4b08b75dcc7bd50

US politics is so partisan now, they'd rather one of their 'own', even if he's an utter disgrace. This isn't (or shouldn't be) about Republicans vs. Democrats; it's about having someone as POTUS who's more than a bullying, spoilt, fantasist, lying, man-baby. The GOP needs a lot more like Jeff Flake to come out of the woodwork and the World needs someone to come up with the 'smoking gun' to give Trump nowhere to run and get him impeached/arrested/Sectioned...
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Post by GSC on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 11:34 am

Eh. The GoP May may not like Trump but can they really turn their nose up at the guy who won the white house. Better to work with him and try to accomplish some of your aims than drive more deadlock because you think he's a knob
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 12:44 pm

It is politics..Republicans want to keep control of the Senate.

It is more than Trump....Careers and ideals are at stake.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 3:23 pm

Trump has a positive rating in 17 states...and is holding water in places like Texas.

67 percent of Senators are needed for impeachment..

Just won't happen before the half terms and even then there are more Democratic seats in play.

The economy is doing fine.....For most people that is all that matters.

Backwater Kentuckians aren't really bothered about Russia.

Best to remember that.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 9:22 pm

GSC wrote:Eh. The GoP May may not like Trump but can they really turn their nose up at the guy who won the white house. Better to work with him and try to accomplish some of your aims than drive more deadlock because you think he's a knob
He IS a knob, and a potentially dangerous one as well. The evidence is there for everyone to see and there'll be more that we're not aware of in due course I'm sure.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 9:30 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Trump has a positive rating in 17 states...and is holding water in places like Texas.

67 percent of Senators are needed for impeachment..

Just won't happen before the half terms and even then there are more Democratic seats in play.

The economy is doing fine.....For most people that is all that matters.

Backwater Kentuckians aren't really bothered about Russia.

Best to remember that.
Oh, I do. Ignoring potential malfeasance on the level he's potentially been playing at isn't really a goer though is it? OK for your backwater Kentuckians maybe, but not for officialdom. At least, not if they still want to be considered a credible 'Leader of the Free World'...
Then again, power is worth everything isn't it? It's pathetic.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 07 Aug 2017, 9:50 pm

If you were to get rid of every leader that was a dick you wouldn't have many left.

If you are looking for a politician that is whiter than white..I suggest you take your head out of your ass.

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Post by Gwlad on Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:34 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:If you were to get rid of every leader that was a dick you wouldn't have many left.

If you are looking for a politician that is whiter than white..I suggest you take your head out of your ass.

If you're looking for a politician I'd suggest up your ass is a good place to start

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Tue 08 Aug 2017, 9:48 am

CNN poll....

Is Trump doing a good job..

Agree 38..
Disagree 56..

Seen worse.


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