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Team	_________	Manager
Kalamazoo Outrage	_________	Hero
Shakhtar Senseless	_________	Marky
Fußball	_________	Trebs
SAS	_________	Olly
Melbourne Victory	_________	Afro
Deportivo Wanka	_________	Nando
Olympique Marswag	_________	Miky
Melbourne City	_________	Twist
Wellington Pheonix	_________	Bam
Fiorentina Turner	_________	Tino

Match	_________	Transfer	_________	Other
Fixtures	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Youth Rules
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________	Press Conferences
	_________	Confirmation	_________
	_________	Loans	_________

lads

squad is worth 309m

Mine's around £292m, without checking if they've been updated and without the youth squad. Still, bottom end.

i have some players with more value than TM gives them...such as Alves,Barz,Buffon,De Rossi

Full squad value is £301.5m with £4m cash.

Also I have a lot of worthless (in TM terms only ) young players

Would it not be worthwhile based on the budgets to turn it into a fifa league using these squads, both Markys and Tinos squads would actually be the strongest for fifa whilst mine probably the weakest but the value of our squads should then allow us to even out over the season.

Hero wrote:Would it not be worthwhile based on the budgets to turn it into a fifa league using these squads, both Markys and Tinos squads would actually be the strongest for fifa whilst mine probably the weakest but the value of our squads should then allow us to even out over the season.

Can you really turn that around in a week?

Can you commit to running the fixtures every week and inputting everyone's formation and players?

Surely something similar but online would be better? Like https://www.leaguesimulator.eu/football

Im at £362.3m squad wise

I think the most important part is that it is a computer generated result. Whether that is FIFA or another website probably doesn’t matter as long as they are factoring in how good the player is IRL at that point of time and not at a fixed point in past. So for example, someone like Paulinho is judged on his form for Barca not when he was in China.

Has to be the latest fifa because we are judging our results by latest happenings and form and not on past glories.

Just had the CPU have a game of my team v West Ham.
My team won 5-0 with goals from Depay, Asensio, Dembele, Solanke and Under. Was good to see a few goals as that was something I hesitant over as previously they'd often been 0-0s.
I'll add in someone else's team now and simulate a few games.

Hero wrote:Just had the CPU have a game of my team v West Ham.
My team won 5-0 with goals from Depay, Asensio, Dembele, Solanke and Under. Was good to see a few goals as that was something I hesitant over as previously they'd often been 0-0s.
I'll add in someone else's team now and simulate a few games.

If you have the difficulty higher the AI controlled teams will be better.

Both teams were AI and on legendary.

Thought they would be. I just think if they were on Semi Pro they would be more inclined to play out a dull 0-0

Man Utd must be on that setting

You can increase the characteristic settings too, would they be left alone?

2nd leg v West Ham finished 2-0, Asensio and Milinkovic-Savic scoring. Only 1 yellow card and 1 injury in the 2 games so may look at tweaking that.

My team might be more middle of the road in terms of fifa and values if you wanted to add mine and see what results happened.

I'm feeling better guys and should be okay now and ill look to reply to everything over this weekend and give answers etc.

Good to hear you’re on the mend Miky

Question on FIFA - how up to date does it keep on ratings. So for example, say Giroud suddenly goes on a goal scoring streak between now and the end of the season, does that have an impact or does it stay at the rating at the time the game was released?

Afro wrote:Good to hear you’re on the mend Miky

Question on FIFA - how up to date does it keep on ratings. So for example, say Giroud suddenly goes on a goal scoring streak between now and the end of the season, does that have an impact or does it stay at the rating at the time the game was released?

On career mode their ratings reflect how they are in the pretend season, but exhibition games the player ratings fluctuate on form.

Here for example is how Phil Foden has changed through the season so far:

https://sofifa.com/player/237692/changeLog

How about feedback ie knowing where games were won and lost so you know where to work on improving?

If it's anything like how I trialed it last time I streamed it so you would be able to watch the game back. you'd also see each players ratings.

Sounds positive.

How much work to set up and how much work for you each week? Can it be shared around a bit?

The main bit would be the initial set up of the teams, what I thought would be to base it in the Australian league and just dump all the players already there into free agents so it makes it easier to move players about.
I already made template tactic lists from when we considered it a year ago so can just check through them to make ensure nothing has changed and then each week it'd just be altering each teams tactics which should be really quick and then streaming the games.

Would I be right in saying we'd have no say over substitutions and formation changes mid match?

Yeah that is an issue in that it does subs automatically without any choice in it. I'd say it's a minor issue though, they do replace like for like position wise.

I'm all for it.

Hero wrote:Yeah that is an issue in that it does subs automatically without any choice in it. I'd say it's a minor issue though, they do replace like for like position wise.

Silver lining to that is that it would encourage building squad depth. Imagine spunking all your money on Messi and then he gets injured to be replaced by Albert Adomah.

Found another issue so need people's thoughts.
There's a small amount of players that aren't available due to the teams available in Fifa. It's mainly players that have fecked off to China such as Gervinho but there's also going to a few youth players. The youth players I'm not concerned over as I think it's still fine for people to buy and sell them as by the time any of them eventually make it into a team on here then fifa 19 will be out and they'll probably be included anyway.
My thought on the ones like Gervinho though is that the owners of affected players simply get a 100% cash value on them.

Done 4 teams so far.

Mine, Miky, Olly and Afro.

Overall scores for the first elevens based on what people have picked recently on their team sheets:

239 - mine
246 - Miky
241 - Olly
240 - Afro

Afro would be a lot higher if he changed formation to 4 at the back but Konate with a rating of 67 drags his down.
Olly should put Kolasinc (81) instead of Jorge (74).

Do mine please.

I was thinking along the lines of players not being available when I tried to look up Arthur Melo. Cheap South American league talent would be a problem as I thought they would be rated higher in Fifa. As it happens there aren't any Brazilian leagues.

Therefore keep it to European leagues only? I think getting cash value for those outside of that would be very fair, considering I would imagine most teams with those players would jump on a chance of a lawyers

Is there any good online resources I can try different teams and formations based on current Fifa rankings?

Something like Futbin squad builder would probably help

Yep found it thanks. Done a few and took screenshots.

Sofifa is my preference.

Hero wrote:Done 4 teams so far.

Mine, Miky, Olly and Afro.

Overall scores for the first elevens based on what people have picked recently on their team sheets:

239 - mine
246 - Miky
241 - Olly
240 - Afro

Afro would be a lot higher if he changed formation to 4 at the back but Konate with a rating of 67 drags his down.
Olly should put Kolasinc (81) instead of Jorge (74).

Yeah, my recent first XIs isn’t really a reflection of my side and also reckon I could bump it up with the £93m I have in the bank!

Done 6 of the 10 teams on Fifa now. The teams that include which club the players are at in real life are certainly quicker to do! (hint hint if people could add in parent clubs)

Hero wrote:Done 6 of the 10 teams on Fifa now. The teams that include which club the players are at in real life are certainly quicker to do! (hint hint if people could add in parent clubs)

Moan moan moan

I assume we are saying we will try the FIFA route for definite, given the time and work that has gone into it.

Everyone happy with that? (I am for the record)

Right, lets scrap the last games of season 1, seems no-one cares enough about them now anyway so whatever.

As for Fifa, if it works out fine then we can trial it for season 2 BUT i want it to be tried and tested before we ACTUALLY use it, im not using something thats broken and if that means an extra few days/week to get everything sorted then so be it. In terms of cap, no cap at all as im pretty sure the majority voted for that the other week.

Right then, some test fixtures are called for.

Who’s willing to do some tactics for a test game. The more the better.

I’ll do some.

And good to have you back Miky

I'm in for the Fifa trial.

Still going with Miky's proposed beginning of April for Season 2?

If that’s realistic for set-up on fifa then I reckon we should.

Season starts 3rd April, tactics on 6th.

Subject to the test working okay of course.

Just so we are clear, the test has to work first before we go along with FIFA

So volunteers for testing FIFA are:

Afro
Marky
Hero
Miky
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me!

Me