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6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by BigGee on Sun 04 Feb 2018, 1:36 pm

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SCOTLAND v FRANCE
11 February 2018
KO: 15:00 GMT
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Live on [BBC Jockland]

Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)
Assistant 1: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 2: Paul Williams (New Zealand)
TMO: Rowan Kitt (England)

A. Head to Head

91 Played 91
35 Won 53
3 Drawn 3
53 Lost 35
1,118 Points 1,302

B. Recent Form

8 March 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
17 – 19 to France

7 February 2015
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
15 – 8 to France

5 September 2015
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
19 – 16 to France

13 March 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
29 – 18 to Scotland

12 February 2017
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
22 – 16 to France

C. Teams

SCOTLAND 

Stuart Hogg, Tommy Seymour, Huw Jones, Peter Horne (all Glasgow), Sean Maitland (Saracens), Finn Russell (Glasgow), Greig Laidlaw (Clermont Auvergne); Gordon Reid (London Irish), Stuart McInally, Simon Berghan, Grant Gilchrist (all Edinburgh), Jonny Gray (Glasgow), John Barclay (Scarlets, capt), Hamish Watson (Edinburgh), Ryan Wilson (Glasgow).

Replacements: Scott Lawson (Newcastle), Jamie Bhatti (Glasgow), Jon Welsh (Newcastle), Ben Toolis (Edinburgh), Dave Denton (Worcester), Ali Price (Glasgow), Chris Harris (Newcastle), Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh).

FRANCE


Palis; Thomas, Doumayrou, Lamerat, Vakatawa; Beauxis, Machenaud; Poirot, Guirado, Slimani, Itturia, Vahaamahina , Lauret , Tauleigne.

Replacements: Pelissie, Ben Arous, Gomes Sa, Gabrillagues, Serin, Belleau, Fall.

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What is worse? Getting utterly thrashed by a rampant Welsh team away from home, when everyone (except the Welsh clearly) saw Scotland as the up and coming team about to do great things in this tournament; or to lose a game with a drop goal on the last kick of the game to an Irish team who had just kept the ball for 31 phases!

Answers on a postcard please!

The truth is neither scenario is a good one and it is hard to guess how they will play on the minds of the respective teams over the coming week.

The good thing is that in the 6N, redemption is potentially only a game away and both teams have another chance at it this coming weekend.

Both teams look like they will have to make significant changes, France due to injury and Scotland because they were so cr*p yesterday. How that will pan out on the game is anyone's guess.

I am not however expecting to hear to many optimistic noises coming from the Scotland camp or their fans and media this week. Let us go back to being the underdogs, it seems to be the only mindset that can get us to play well!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:38 pm

Whenever you see a pack have a long conversation before a lineout you can almost guarantee they're going to mess it up

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:38 pm

Huw Jones is a seriously class act. If he were from the country his name might suggest (no names...), we'd never hear the end of it.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:40 pm

SimonofSurrey wrote:Huw Jones is a seriously class act. If he were from the country his name might suggest (no names...), we'd never hear the end of it.

He actually has no Welsh heritage!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:40 pm

Crucial that we don't concede before halftime

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:41 pm

Big defensive effort now please Scotland...
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:42 pm

That's a very harsh call there Lacy...
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:43 pm

What a mad half that was - penalties and wide defence a real problem.

We're in the game but a massive improvement is required!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:44 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
SimonofSurrey wrote:Huw Jones is a seriously class act. If he were from the country his name might suggest (no names...), we'd never hear the end of it.

He actually has no Welsh heritage!

I know that very well, RDW, hence the irony in my comment. But behave yourself: did I mention the 'W' word?! censored

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by cakeordeath on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:45 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Is Lacey just not bothering with forward passes now?

I don't see why he would, he seems to forgotten the new rules about the tackler joining a ruck and also supporting their own bodyweight (hint if the French player has their elbows/knees on a player that's not supporting your own weight)

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:46 pm

I imagine it's been said before but didn't Sam Warburton play the lead role in 'Avatar'?

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:51 pm

How can Andy Nichol give Laidlaw a free pass for the second try? He should have dived on the ball there, not watch it like he did. It was a great move made to look excellent by Laidlaw.
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:53 pm

On the re-run, it looks like the pass to Thomas before his kick and chase second try was a good yard forwards. If Touch Judges aren't going to see or call these kinds of things or confirm tries the ref can't see, why not just replace them with a 'Hawkeye' laser for when the ball goes into touch? (Even then they often don't get within 5 yards of the place the ball exited play)

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by George Carlin on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:58 pm

I hope that none of you have to thole the lazy, condescending horseschidt brain droppings from Mike Philips and Steve Thimpson that I have to listen to.
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by whocares on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:58 pm

Machenaud out (elbow injury), serin in.
Not sure which halfbacks we will have at the end of the 6N!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Duty281 on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 3:59 pm

Good half for the French.

Scotland far too open in defence (again!). Lacey nit picking at every turn.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:00 pm

How was that not a penalty - the French guy was holding onto the ball on the feckin ground!!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by mid_gen on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:03 pm

Very lucky to get that penalty...some good carrying but the supporting forwards were getting lazy, should have been turned over.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Cyril on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:03 pm

Russell Laugh

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:03 pm

Can we please get Hogg kicking to touch.

Russell's missed kicks leading to French 3 points!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by TightHEAD on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:03 pm

Finn Russell is a pub player
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Cyril on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:06 pm

Wow, Clancy really wants Scotland to win here. Luckily for France Russell doesn’t!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:06 pm

France beginning to fiddle with their own unique self-destruct button - then Finn 'where's the touchline?' Russell and Hogg return the favour. That was abject then dumb from Scotland. Neither side is doing themselves any tactical favours, but it's still a great watch for the neutral. And now ANOTHER daft French penalty!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:06 pm

French indiscipline more prominent this half

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:06 pm

He could end up costing Scotland the game at this rate ...

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by mid_gen on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:07 pm

I didn't think it was possible, but Finn Russell is in danger of eclipsing Bergamasco's scrum half cameo as the most comically inept 6N performance of all time.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by whocares on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:09 pm

Russel is maybe our best player today. Shame he is not kicking.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:10 pm

Come on Lacey he wasn't supporting his own weight!!!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by TightHEAD on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:10 pm

Hogg is going to lose it soon.
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Cyril on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:11 pm

Lacey finally gives France a penalty. He’s really been favouring Scotland.


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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:11 pm

Seatbelt tackle on Hogg missed ...

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:12 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Come on Lacey he wasn't supporting his own weight!!!

Lacey has always been bad in his ruck judgements but he is normally a homer ref.
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Cyril on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:12 pm

Russell can’t even tie his laces properly!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:12 pm

mid_gen wrote:I didn't think it was possible, but Finn Russell is in danger of eclipsing Bergamasco's scrum half cameo as the most comically inept 6N performance of all time.

All the more so as 10 - allegedly - is Russell's real position, not some madcap national coach's 'bright idea' selection. I feel for Russell. He's shown in the past that he's not a pub player, but he is by the look of it, woefully out of sorts and shot of all confidence. (And he just got very lucky with an in-goal bounce: exactly the type of thing that did for Laidlaw for the 2nd French try). The boy needs subbing for his own wellbeing just now.


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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:12 pm

I think Barclay has had a quiet game - I'd be tempted to take him off for Denton instead of Wilson

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by doctor_grey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:15 pm

SimonofSurrey wrote:
mid_gen wrote:I didn't think it was possible, but Finn Russell is in danger of eclipsing Bergamasco's scrum half cameo as the most comically inept 6N performance of all time.

All the more so as 10 - allegedly - is Russell's real position, not some madcap national coach's 'bright idea' selection. I feel for Russell. He's shown in the past that he's not a pub player, but he is by the look of it, woefully out of sorts and shot of all confidence. (And he just got very lucky with an in-goal bounce: exactly the ty[pe of thing that did for Laidlaw dfor the 2nd French try). The boy needs subbing for his own wellbeing just now.

RDW_Scotland wrote:I think Barclay has had a quiet game - I'd be tempted to take him off for Denton instead of Wilson
In the spirit of these posts, I would put Denton at 10.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Cyril on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:16 pm

Could (should?) have been a yellow for Scotland there.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:17 pm

Gilchrist has had s good game - surprised he's been taken off so early

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:18 pm

Cyril wrote:Could (should?) have been a yellow for Scotland there.

Its a good thing you don't want Scotland to lose otherwise you may have had to be more one eyed thumbsup
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by doctor_grey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:18 pm

France just made a front row substitution. Wait for the HIA later.......

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by Cyril on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:19 pm

eirebilly, calm down we wouldn’t want you leaving the forum in a strop again

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by whocares on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:21 pm

Too many stupid penalties given by France to deserve to win this game


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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:22 pm

Cyril wrote:eirebilly, calm down we wouldn’t want you leaving the forum in a strop again

Good to see you still have a sense of humour, could be worse, you could be a dour individual thumbsup
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:22 pm

French penalty count really helping us this half

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by SimonofSurrey on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:22 pm

Cyril wrote:Could (should?) have been a yellow for Scotland there.

Don't go getting all Alun Wyn on us please, Cyril. Lacey's making a decent fist of reffing an open and clean game with both sides trying to play good rugby in good conditions. I haven't seen even a pre-card warning to either side yet.

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:23 pm

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Cyril wrote:eirebilly, calm down we wouldn’t want you leaving the forum in a strop again

Good to see you still have a sense of humour, could be worse, you could be a dour individual thumbsup

Can you two please ignore each other - it has been a good thread so far!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:23 pm

Huge call - Finn is off!

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:24 pm

Right call to remove Russell, he was not having the best day and his confidence was visibly low.
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:25 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
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Cyril wrote:eirebilly, calm down we wouldn’t want you leaving the forum in a strop again

Good to see you still have a sense of humour, could be worse, you could be a dour individual thumbsup

Can you two please ignore each other - it has been a good thread so far!

Apologies.
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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by whocares on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:25 pm

The Beauxis experiment ends here !

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Re: 6N 2018: Scotland v France, 11th February

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 4:25 pm

Jaysus, France imploding...
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