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6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by TightHEAD on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 1:05 pm

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WALES V ITALY






Venue: Principality Stadium, Cardiff Date: Sunday, 11 March Kick-off: 15:00 GMT
Coverage: Live on BBC One Wales & S4C, BBC Radio Wales, BBC Radio Cymru & BBC Sport website and BBC Sport app, plus live text commentary.

Wales: L Williams, North, Watkin, Parkes, S Evans; Anscombe, G Davies; Smith, Dee, Francis, Hill, B Davies, Tipuric, J Davies, Faletau (capt).

Replacements: Owens, R Evans, Lee, S Davies, Jenkins, A Davies, Patchell, Halfpenny.

10 changes! really? Erm
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by maestegmafia on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 7:42 am

According to one of the lads on the France vs England thread, the rules have changed and now you can have a line out once you have been awarded a penalty after the 80 minutes is up.

Good news that it will stop the type of ridiculous refereeing we saw in Rom in 2007

https://youtu.be/l9qtmVbIhjY

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by No9 on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 10:13 am

maestegmafia wrote:According to one of the lads on the France vs England thread, the rules have changed and now you can have a line out once you have been awarded a penalty after the 80 minutes is up.

Good news that it will stop the type of ridiculous refereeing we saw in Rom in 2007

https://youtu.be/l9qtmVbIhjY

Where have you been Maesteg, that change has been in for over a season now. Def last 6 Nations (I think). Makes perfect sense really. A penalty doesn’t stop a game, so why should a pen kick for a line out stop a game, as the penalty isn’t complete until the lineout is taken.

Never made sense before really...

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 11:44 am

Best of luck today Welsh fans, a nice TBP win will put ye in a good position to finish second.
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Post by Cardiff Dave on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 11:52 am

Mams v Mammas on bbc2W now.

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Post by The Oracle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 12:10 pm

Yes, a nice touch that having the women play before the men's game in a double header. And on Mother's Day too! Hope they don't ruin the pitch!
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 12:21 pm

The Oracle wrote:Yes, a nice touch that having the women play before the men's game in a double header. And on Mother's Day too! Hope they don't ruin the pitch!

I would like to see this happening more and more. Women's 6N matches as a prelude to the men's matches. It would bring in more crowds and generate more interest in Women's rugby.
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by SecretFly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 1:07 pm

The only problem with it is who televises them? When the games are on different days or quite different times then at least the thing is broken up and channels don't mind televising games. But if all Women's games were on just before the male equivalent well that would be complicated as 6N channels like to show back to back men's games (ie, showing the Ireland v Scotland game then straight over for the intros and chats about France v England.)

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 1:46 pm

Well Fly, the BBC website streams a lot of the games, even streaming the Ireland - Scotland women's match now.

All I am suggesting is that it would be nice to see the women play as prelude to the men's matches. Crowds will come in earlier to watch as well I feel.
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by The Oracle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 1:48 pm

Just read that James Davies has the best breakdown stats in Europe over his career so far. Only Stefan Armitage has won more turnovers. Looking forward to seeing if he can make the step up to international level. And with Tipuric on the pitch too the breakdown could be interesting. Light weight and mobile vs brute force (perhaps Wales’ approach in the past) is an interesting discussion. Hoping it goes the same way as it did for Scotland v England where the much more mobile back row was quicker to the breakdown and able to turn over ball and set up counter attacks galore.
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:05 pm

Well that's Wales underway early, try in 4 minutes. Italy will get crunched today.
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Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:07 pm

Second try for Wales after 5mins...
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by Duty281 on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:09 pm

Game over already.

Could get very ugly if Wales fancy racking up the points.

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:11 pm

Frantic start, now Italy score...
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by SecretFly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:13 pm

Bit like a Sevens game so far..

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by TightHEAD on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:18 pm

Seen 5 seatbelt tackles like Watson’s yesterday and not one penalty or yellow card! Where is the consistency?
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by Duty281 on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:23 pm

Ah the classic 'ask the TMO', where the referee actually makes the decision.

I'll tell you what I've seen, indeed.

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by SecretFly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:24 pm

"just watch him.... yeah...it's a penalty" Laugh

Good one Jiffy.

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by SecretFly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:26 pm

Duty281 wrote:Ah the classic 'ask the TMO', where the referee actually makes the decision.

I'll tell you what I've seen, indeed.

That's all it ever should be. The ref asks a Video guy to show him the footage he needs and he still makes the decision. "Show me the footage" should be all a ref asks of TMO

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:27 pm

Say goodnight Allen, what a hit from Faletau.
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by SecretFly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:29 pm

Good stuff there...the wink

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:34 pm

Who do Italy think they are... take your 3 points away from home. Disgraceful decision making.

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Post by carpet baboon on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:36 pm

Yellow coming for Wales?

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by Duty281 on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:36 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Ah the classic 'ask the TMO', where the referee actually makes the decision.

I'll tell you what I've seen, indeed.

That's all it ever should be.  The ref asks a Video guy to show him the footage he needs and he still makes the decision.  "Show me the footage" should be all a ref asks of TMO

Precisely. There should be no TMO with decision-making power: it should solely be the remit of the referee.

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:41 pm

Italy have come back into this match quite well, I honestly thought Wales would blow them away.
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Post by Duty281 on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:42 pm

eirebilly wrote:Italy have come back into this match quite well, I honestly thought Wales would blow them away.

Ditto!

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Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:45 pm

eirebilly wrote:Italy have come back into this match quite well, I honestly thought Wales would blow them away.
Italy don't look threateningat all though. I'd still expect Wales to put the foot down in the second half.

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:47 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Italy have come back into this match quite well, I honestly thought Wales would blow them away.
Italy don't look threateningat all though. I'd still expect Wales to put the foot down in the second half.
y have had a couple of moments but certainly do not look like they could be clinical.

Very lucky there as well, Italy could have seen a YC.

Liam Williams a little naughty there too.
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by Duty281 on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:51 pm

Well that's gone Italy's way. They should have been down to 14 a few minutes ago.

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Post by SecretFly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:52 pm

Strange half.

Wales have the tools to stretch this but choose to play a pretty conservative game. Italy are keeping possession easily enough which is the surprise.

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by JDizzle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:52 pm

Wales have looked fairly threatening every time they have had the ball. Just not had enough of it! 39% possession at home vs Italy is bad. Comes down to the penalty count and unforced errors.

And Liam Williams, braindead.


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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:54 pm

To be fair with 10 changes it's bound to take Wales a while to get into their stride but I wouldn't be surprised to see them let rip in the last quarter ...

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:55 pm

Duty281 wrote:Well that's gone Italy's way. They should have been down to 14 a few minutes ago.

I cannot see why he did not get a YC myself, it was very blatant...
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Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 3:55 pm

Yes he was very lucky to stay on

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:00 pm

No9 wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:According to one of the lads on the France vs England thread, the rules have changed and now you can have a line out once you have been awarded a penalty after the 80 minutes is up.

Good news that it will stop the type of ridiculous refereeing we saw in Rom in 2007

https://youtu.be/l9qtmVbIhjY

Where have you been Maesteg, that change has been in for over a season now. Def last 6 Nations (I think). Makes perfect sense really. A penalty doesn’t stop a game, so why should a pen kick for a line out stop a game, as the penalty isn’t complete until the lineout is taken.

Never made sense before really...

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Post by TightHEAD on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:01 pm

Should have been a straight red, crazy rule but players have walked for the same thing this year.
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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:03 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Should have been a straight red, crazy rule but players have walked for the same thing this year.

Like Watson yesterday?
To be honest I disagree that either warranted anymore than a yellow.

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Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:03 pm

Yes it was the end of last season - someone should have told the ref in the Wasps v Connaught match as he allowed Connaught to take the line-out after they kicked the ball out after time was up and score a try to deny Wasps a home quarter-final in the Euro cup ...

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:03 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Should have been a straight red, crazy rule but players have walked for the same thing this year.

Straight red? That would have been very harsh. For me it was a penalty and a YC at a stretch.
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Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:04 pm

Watson didn't make shoulder contact with the head ...

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Post by JDizzle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:05 pm

It was after the whistle had gone as well was Williams' hit. He'll presumably say he didn't hear it, but nothing good was coming to come of putting a hit like that in when Wales already had the penalty.

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Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:11 pm

That's that then ... although I'm not convinced there wasn't a knock-on from the earlier up and under ...

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:18 pm

Jaysus, Poite really does stand in the most awkward positions when teams are on the attack.
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Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:18 pm

And that's the problem with Italy - can't keep their composure when they have an advantage

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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by TightHEAD on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:21 pm

Liam Williams wasn’t happy was he!

Gats knew he should have gone
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Post by JDizzle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:22 pm

Elliott Dee having a good game so far. Defended well, and has been putting himself about in attack.

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:23 pm

As good as Parisse is, he really is a mé feiner and often gets turned over.
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Post by The Oracle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:27 pm

Come one. We need that 4th try for the BP!
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Post by The Oracle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:27 pm

P.s. what a boring game!
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Re: 6 NATIONS - WALES V ITALY - 11/03/18

Post by Heaf on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:29 pm

The Oracle wrote:Come one. We need that 4th try for the BP!

It's only a matter of time ...

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Post by The Oracle on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 4:30 pm

Heaf wrote:
The Oracle wrote:Come one. We need that 4th try for the BP!

It's only a matter of time ...

Unless we try too hard!
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