ICC Cricket World Cup

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England 2pts (+2.08nrr)
Afghanistan
Australia
Bangladesh
India
New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
South Africa 0pts (-2.08 nrr)


Pool Fixtures

Thu, May 30 
10:30 England vs South Africa  (The Oval)

Fri, May 31 
10:30 West Indies vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Sat, Jun 1 
10:30 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs Australia (Bristol)

Sun, Jun 2 
10:30 South Africa vs Bangladesh (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 3 
10:30 England vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Tue, Jun 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)

Wed, Jun 5 
10:30 South Africa vs India (Southampton)
13:30 Bangladesh vs New Zealand (The Oval)

Thu, Jun 6 
10:30 Australia vs West Indies (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 7 
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Sat, Jun 8 
10:30 England vs Bangladesh (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs New Zealand (Taunton)

Sun, Jun 9 
10:30 Australia vs India (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 10 
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 11 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Wed, Jun 12 
10:30 Australia vs Pakistan (Taunton)

Thu, Jun 13 
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 14 
10:30 England vs West Indies (Southampton)

Sat, Jun 15 
10:30 Australia vs Sri Lanka (The Oval)
13:30 Afghanistan vs South Africa (Cardiff)

Sun, Jun 16 
10:30 India vs Pakistan (Old Trafford)

Mon, Jun 17 
10:30 Bangladesh vs West Indies (Taunton)

Tue, Jun 18 
10:30 England vs Afghanistan (Old Trafford)

Wed, Jun 19 
10:30 New Zealand vs South Africa (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 20 
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 21 
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)

Sat, Jun 22 
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Sun, Jun 23 
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)

Mon, Jun 24 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 25 
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)

Wed, Jun 26 
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 27 
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Fri, Jun 28 
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)

Sat, Jun 29 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)

Sun, Jun 30 
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)

Mon, Jul 1 
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)

Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




Knock Out Fixtures


To Follow

Woakes takes another fine catch.

Huge wicket there, SCW proving what a team of all rounders this side are. Take note ROY

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

alfie wrote:
I only saw highlights of the West Indies demolition job but it seems their bouncer attack was far more effective than England's has been today...

I would also suggest Pakistan haven't played the short ball like scared 10 year olds today too

Indeed. Perhaps having played five matches against England recently they are a bit more used to facing the England bowlers whereas the WI ones took them a bit by surprise ? Whatever : I think it shows that on these flat pitches short isn't always going to be effective.

Another great outfield catch from Woakes I'm sure he'd like some wickets but his fielding effort has been worth its weight in precious metal...

England needed that .

Bouncers are doing better than the slow balls.

It was around this time yesterday that Mahmudullah started flogging the ball to all parts...Pakistan need a similar effort here.

Oh my, four overthrows. Sums up England's overall effort this afternoon.

Oh jeez....4 overthrows. Its shoddy from England.

350 seems likely and a 50/50 game

Always good when your throw is so offline the fielder backing up on the boundary can't even get there.

Not England's finest day in the field, a shame because Archer/Wood have done a decent enough job in these past few overs

Most dangerous batsmans out ...they could do with getting Safaraz as well

Have been some good catches in the outfield ...but apart from that a lot of the fielding has been a bit ropey...
Nerves ?

That fifth wicket might save a few. Wood 2/53 , not bad from ten. Need a good finish from Woakes now : he's gone for a few today.

...and he's got one with a c&b ! Very important strike as it's the dangerous Sarfraz...

Since when did Chris Woakes become Jonty Rhodes?

Gooseberry wrote:Most dangerous batsmans out ...they could do with getting Safaraz as well

And have.

Some control bought back to the scoring rate which had been in danger of running out of control. 340-350 ?

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Since when did Chris Woakes become Jonty Rhodes?

Around the same time Roy got fielding lessons from Monty

Two wickets and two awful balls form Woakes. Carry on Cricket continues.

Two in the over for Woakes...

Fair to say it hasn't been his best days bowling ; but he's done an important job in cutting off these batsmen in the closing overs. At 326/7 they might have to settle for 340...unless one of these collects a couple of big hits

Good last over from Archer. He's been hit around a bit today but this was a good finish with some nice variations. Unfortunately the last ball has gone the distance... 350 back on the table ?

About to say what a great death over that was from Archer when the last one goes for 6! Slower ball again, too obvious. The bouncers have worked for him.

Another for woakes flattering figures ....

Couple of boundaries to see the innings off.

England should chase this comfortably.

Another mixed bag over ...more poor fielding

348. In the end theyll be happy enough with that, especially in context of where they were in the last game. Its been as much down to englands poor bowling and fielding (Moeen aside) though.

Just have to remember they are quite capable of easing through this sort of total.

Roy certainly owes the team a few runs after his fielding effort today - not good from him at all!

349 to win then - I'd say that's a par score personally. There's a little bit of grip in the pitch, so it's not your usual Trent Bridge concrete road, but not really any demons either. As per usual the outfield is lightning fast and obviously you have like a fourty yard boundary one side too.

Pakistan are gonna need Amir/Wahab to fire - Amir in particular if he can get a few early wickets

Gooseberry wrote:About to say what a great death over that was from Archer when the last one goes for 6! Slower ball again, too obvious. The bouncers have worked for him.

He can't have bowled enough of them then : I doubt he will return figures of 0/79 too often.

The late wickets flattered Woakes but he gets marks for his catching. Wood the pick of the pace bowlers today.

348 will be a stiff target. Fifty-fifty I think but England probably need a good start this time.

going by refrences to bilaterals & 450+ score by commentators & many English fans....it would appear Pak's 348 is below par

I think it's almost impossible for Eng and Pak are 90-10 favorites.......and had they crossed the 350 barrier, I would have given them a 100% chance of win

KP_fan wrote:I think it's almost impossible for Eng and Pak are 90-10 favorites.......and had they crossed the 350 barrier, I would have given them a 100% chance of win

Eh???? England are about 80-20 favourites.

So Pakistan, after being shot out for 105 in their last game, makes 348-8 this time round.
They would need an extraordinary bowling performance to win this one as the pitch is rather lifeless. Can Shadab or Amir or Wahab produce a magic spell and stop England's never ending batting lineup? This is not the kind of pitch where one can expect England to have a batting meltdown, they are nearly unstoppable on a flat track when chasing.
So Pakistan haven't been humiliated yet, but for me, England would go in as favorits at the start of their chase. But 348 are runs on the board, and a few quick wickets can set some panic in the English ranks, and if Pakistan then maintain their discipline, then they may just have a chance.

Duty281 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:I think it's almost impossible for Eng and Pak are 90-10 favorites.......and had they crossed the 350 barrier, I would have given them a 100% chance of win

Eh???? England are about 80-20 favourites.

Bear in mind KPF was still backing South Africa for second place a couple of days ago ....

Duty281 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:I think it's almost impossible for Eng and Pak are 90-10 favorites.......and had they crossed the 350 barrier, I would have given them a 100% chance of win

Eh???? England are about 80-20 favourites.

I think the reality is somewhere in the middle, England probably 60/40 favourites. Bookmakers reflect this, England 5/6 to win at this point and Pakistan 1/1 - so have England slight favourites.

KP_F's seeming refusal to acknowledge that past performance from a few weeks ago is a better indicator than past performances in 2015/2011 etc is a weird one. Even weirder to not acknowledge that they're playing at Trent Bridge

alfie wrote:

Gooseberry wrote:About to say what a great death over that was from Archer when the last one goes for 6! Slower ball again, too obvious. The bouncers have worked for him.

He can't have bowled enough of them then : I doubt he will return figures of 0/79 too often.

The late wickets flattered Woakes but he gets marks for his catching.  Wood the pick of the pace bowlers today.

348 will be a stiff target.  Fifty-fifty I think but England probably need a good start this time.

Its the slower balls and a few wide loose ones that were getting clobbered. There were a few bouncers getting called wides, but largely the Pakistan batsmen werent scoring off them and certainly not taking boundaries. Same goes with Wood, he was holding his line better than the others but it was his pace that troubling Pakistan rather than the variations. It also maybe explains why Woakes got scored off so easily, but he did loose his line a lot too.

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

Duty281 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:I think it's almost impossible for Eng and Pak are 90-10 favorites.......and had they crossed the 350 barrier, I would have given them a 100% chance of win

Eh???? England are about 80-20 favourites.

I think the reality is somewhere in the middle, England probably 60/40 favourites. Bookmakers reflect this, England 5/6 to win at this point and Pakistan 1/1 - so have England slight favourites.

KP_F's seeming refusal to acknowledge that past performance from a few weeks ago is a better indicator than past performances in 2015/2011 etc is a weird one. Even weirder to not acknowledge that they're playing at Trent Bridge

Im with you here Ollie. Im less confident than I was earlier about Englands ability to score 349 but you only have to look at their record chasing down totals anywhere, let alone here. Im also not as up on Pakistans bowler, who have been poor recently, as KPF is.
But I do agree with him that pressure is a thing, and England do look rattled. Stokes though is one who thrives on this kind of situation. Roy will come out feeling he has to make a contribution, which could go either way. Theres so much batting down the order that they dont need to go too berserk early to chase this and can afford to be left with some slogging to do.
You have to give them a solid chance, this is the best batting side in the world.

Whatever , the chase will be a useful test for them. I do fancy them to get the runs unless they lose two or three early wickets. But I'd have my fingers crossed if I were you...

As it is I'm turning in ...might pop back up and see the last five overs later. Good luck chaps ...

England are the masters of the chase. Bar the first five overs, where the ball seams a little, there's nothing in it for the bowlers. The boundaries are laughably short. England are in the habit of chasing down this type of score against Pakistan very recently. England have the best ODI batting lineup in the world.

This should be a doddle for England. 5/6? Very, very generous.

Roys doing his best to make up for that drop and save my tipping competition ...8 off the first over. Pakistan opening with spin, learning from SA no doubt.

Christ Bairstow close to a second golden duck there ...when did Amir learn how to bowl again?

What's there to talk about. Wasted review.

Well that rounds off what Jason Roy will call "a bad day at the office". Horrible shot, horrible review

It just looked out. I'm not sure what they were reviewing it for after such a long chat.

A strange exchange between Roy, Sarfaraz and Marais Erasmus as Roy leaves as well.

Gooseberry wrote:

Duty281 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:I think it's almost impossible for Eng and Pak are 90-10 favorites.......and had they crossed the 350 barrier, I would have given them a 100% chance of win

Eh???? England are about 80-20 favourites.

Bear in mind KPF was still backing South Africa for second place a couple of days ago ....

a couple of days ago i was still backing them to be in top-5 although not at No.2
I put them at No.2 a month back

Bairstow watches two bounce over his bat from Wahab when trying to dab it down to third man, for some reason thinks "hey i'll do this again" and gloves behind.

Poor from England's openers

60/2. Poor from Bairstow. Not a brilliant start, but England are ahead of where they need to be in terms of runs, so Root and the in-form Morgan have time to build a partnership.

Root and Morgan have a really important partnership to build here. It's a good pitch and lightening outfield but the ball is doing a bit.

The run rate is fine though, Pakistan are going to need to get 10 overs out of Hafeez and Malik. Root and Morgan just need to consolidate here.

We look punch drunk here Root was dropped by Azam and struggling against Amir

I hope they have a rematch clause in the contract

Strike rotation is key, England, strike rotation is key.

England are going to lose this one

Morgan clean bowled by Hafeez. He was struggling with the strike rotation aspect of the partnership.

Now, this is a real test. Stokes scored well on Thursday, same again please.

Big big trouble now the Pakistanis firmly in the pound seats

Big trouble is pushing it...they are at a better run rate than Pakistan were and bat deeper. Its sub optimal for sure but they've won from worse positions.
It will take someone to make a good score quickly though and others to contribute well

50 for Joe Root. Couple of narrow escapes, but he's still there for now.

Needs to replicate Roy's century when England beat Pakistan at Trent Bridge a few weeks ago.

Pakistan risking punishment by the umpires for their continual throwing of the ball into the turf.

Pakistan's "5th & 6th Bowlers"
5-19-1 wkt

Poor shot from Stokes. Poor shots characterising the whole innings.