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England 6 Nations Thread
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Sunday 2nd February 15:00 - France (a)
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Assistant 2: Federico Anselmi (Argentina)
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Sunday 23rd February 15:00 - Ireland (h)
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Assistant 1: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
Saturday 7th March 16:45 - Wales (h)
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Referee: Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand)
Assistant 1: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
Saturday 14th March 16:45 - Italy (a)
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Referee: Pascal Gauzere (France)
Assistant 1: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Brian MacNeice (Ireland)
Squad
Forwards
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 21 caps)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 19 caps)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Ben Earl (Saracens, uncapped)
Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 14 caps)
Jamie George (Saracens, 45 caps)
Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors, 1 cap)
Maro Itoje (Saracens, 34 caps)
George Kruis (Saracens, 41 caps)
Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 62 caps)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 81 caps)
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
Joe Marler (Harlequins, 68 caps)
Alex Moon (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 31 caps)
Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 15 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 58 caps)
Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps)
Backs
Elliot Daly (Saracens, 39 caps)
Ollie Devoto (Exeter Chiefs, 1 cap)
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Owen Farrell (Saracens, 79 caps)
George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 65 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, 9 caps)
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 47 caps)
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 52 caps)
Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)
Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 40 caps)
Jacob Umaga (Wasps, uncapped)
Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 42 caps)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 95 caps)
Apprentice players
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Josh Hodge (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Sunday 2nd February 15:00 - France (a)
BBC Sport
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 1: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant 2: Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand)
TMO: Brian MacNeice (Ireland)
Saturday 8th February 16:45 - Scotland (a)
BBC Sport
Referee: Pascal Gauzere (France)
Assistant 1: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant 2: Federico Anselmi (Argentina)
TMO: James Leckie (Australia)
Sunday 23rd February 15:00 - Ireland (h)
ITV Sport
Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant 1: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
Saturday 7th March 16:45 - Wales (h)
ITV Sport, S4C
Referee: Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand)
Assistant 1: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
Saturday 14th March 16:45 - Italy (a)
ITV Sport
Referee: Pascal Gauzere (France)
Assistant 1: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Brian MacNeice (Ireland)
Squad
Forwards
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 21 caps)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 19 caps)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Ben Earl (Saracens, uncapped)
Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 14 caps)
Jamie George (Saracens, 45 caps)
Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors, 1 cap)
Maro Itoje (Saracens, 34 caps)
George Kruis (Saracens, 41 caps)
Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 62 caps)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 81 caps)
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
Joe Marler (Harlequins, 68 caps)
Alex Moon (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 31 caps)
Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 15 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 58 caps)
Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps)
Backs
Elliot Daly (Saracens, 39 caps)
Ollie Devoto (Exeter Chiefs, 1 cap)
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Owen Farrell (Saracens, 79 caps)
George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 65 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, 9 caps)
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 47 caps)
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 52 caps)
Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)
Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 40 caps)
Jacob Umaga (Wasps, uncapped)
Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 42 caps)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 95 caps)
Apprentice players
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Josh Hodge (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
LondonTiger- Moderator
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How was the interview a car crash? i thought it was great.
Breaking News: Rugby World Shocker...Rugby Player drinks a beeer after a game...Snowflakes around the world in Outrage.
Breaking News: Rugby World Shocker...Rugby Player drinks a beeer after a game...Snowflakes around the world in Outrage.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:How was the interview a car crash? i thought it was great.
Breaking News: Rugby World Shocker...Rugby Player drinks a beeer after a game...Snowflakes around the world in Outrage.
And yet it's the middle aged generation that seem to have a problem with the Genge interview. Snowflake generation seem happy. Ellis put up some of the negative comments he'd received on Twitter, reaction was pretty funny, plenty backing him in response.
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I just cant believe how much social media were going on about it.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:I just cant believe how much social media were going on about it.
As opposed to on here where youre going on about people going on about it?
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The fallow week in the 6N requires news to be manufactured, I expect there will be more nonsense coming out for all teams. Other than Russell's interview, I doubt there is anything particularly newsworthy happening across any team
On a separate note, does anyone know when we would expect to hear of any changes to the squad ahead of the next game?
On a separate note, does anyone know when we would expect to hear of any changes to the squad ahead of the next game?
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Gooseberry wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:I just cant believe how much social media were going on about it.
As opposed to on here where youre going on about people going on about it?
i meant...that they were all so "disgusted or offended by it"
It was a nothing...move on next...
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Gooseberry wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:I just cant believe how much social media were going on about it.
As opposed to on here where youre going on about people going on about it?
Well its not like the match gave us much to talk about.
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I see Wales online have openly called Ellis and idiot.
Nice!
Does this mean its war?
Nice!
Does this mean its war?
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TightHEAD wrote:I see Wales online have openly called Ellis and idiot.
Nice!
Does this mean its war?
Having said that...Jones now doesnt need to gee Genge up for the Wales game does he....just print out a copy of that and put it on the wall at his seat in the changing room.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:TightHEAD wrote:I see Wales online have openly called Ellis and idiot.
Nice!
Does this mean its war?
Having said that...Jones now doesnt need to gee Genge up for the Wales game does he....just print out a copy of that and put it on the wall at his seat in the changing room.
Despite being a shy and retiring type I never get the impression that Genge needs much external motivation.
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No very true LIW...i dont get that impression either...
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A west country sausage company have to sign Genge.
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Beer seems to be the official mascot for Six Nations 2020.
I await eagerly for the next reference....
I await eagerly for the next reference....
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TightHEAD wrote:A west country sausage company have to sign Genge.
I am sure Marler used to carry, erm, 'cranial advertising' for a sausage company. Maybe its a LH thing
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TightHEAD wrote:I see Wales online have openly called Ellis and idiot.
Nice!
Does this mean its war?
Nice story, except not true.
First they ran this story where they quote a lot of people praising Ellis and one not:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/ellis-genge-interview-england-rugby-17717329
Then there was this one where they mention Ellis is getting a lot of praise while balancing it with a quote from someone who calls him an idiot:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/six-nations-winners-losers-wales-17715884
An no, it is not war - it is sport.
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LondonTiger wrote:TightHEAD wrote:I see Wales online have openly called Ellis and idiot.
Nice!
Does this mean its war?
Nice story, except not true.
First they ran this story where they quote a lot of people praising Ellis and one not:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/ellis-genge-interview-england-rugby-17717329
Then there was this one where they mention Ellis is getting a lot of praise while balancing it with a quote from someone who calls him an idiot:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/six-nations-winners-losers-wales-17715884
An no, it is not war - it is sport.
On facebook wales online called him an idiot.
Their headline not mine and it was true.
they hate us, its war.
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"All he had to do was interview like a live human being and drink afterwards, idiot."
Quite clear that WOL did not agree with the comment.
Quite clear that WOL did not agree with the comment.
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I think the take home from this is that WoL has pure clickbait headlines that often bare little relation to the actual content of the articles.
But given the amount of DRAMA kicked up by it you can see it works.
But given the amount of DRAMA kicked up by it you can see it works.
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TightHEAD wrote:A west country sausage company have to sign Genge.
There's plenty of butchers around Leicestershire I'm sure one could sort him a deal. Though I'm aware that the club sent him with Brendan O'Connor to a golf event on behalf of the club whilst they were injured. Might be an understatement to say some of the older folk raised an eyebrow at his antics. Promotional coverage to be carefully choreographed with no opportunity to media questions.
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There's plenty of butchers around Leicestershire I'm sure one could sort him a deal.
Bit harsh on Youngs' passing
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I've eaten sausages cooked on a BBQ with more attacking nous than Youngs.
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So whos the answer to Youngs though???
Everyones criticising...myself included but who is the asnwer...
We hardly have any Duponts or Faf de Klerks coming through do we!!!??
Everyones criticising...myself included but who is the asnwer...
We hardly have any Duponts or Faf de Klerks coming through do we!!!??
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GeordieFalcon wrote:So whos the answer to Youngs though???
Everyones criticising...myself included but who is the asnwer...
We hardly have any Duponts or Faf de Klerks coming through do we!!!??
Maybe pick a fan from the crowd on match day, as long as they can pass a ball accurately over 10m without stepping or slowing it down it would be an improvement!
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Oh come on guys! Twelve big English clubs and still fretting about who replaces Youngs? Surely there is someone somewhere in that couple of hundred men that at least has enough promise to be tried.
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Name them?
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I personally still like Danny Care as a finisher.
Clever player and a bit unpredictable.
Clever player and a bit unpredictable.
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As far as I've seen at youth level the forward-dominated style of English rugby doesn't produce excellent scrum halves. The same is true in the Premiership. They're not given the freedom to boss games or express themselves in the same way they are in Wales. Ben Youngs is still the best English scrum half but looks like his confidence is shot. Has he had a break since stepping down from the Lions when his sister in law was diagnosed with terminal cancer (wonderful that she recovered)? I'm not sure he has. Some more sympathy for players might not go amiss. He is tasked with a leadership role when he perhaps isn't a natural leader and is therefore overthiking his game a bit. Robshaw, Haskell, Hartley. All gone. England have a leadership problem as Curry and Underhill aren't quite there yet (Underhill looks like FEC to me, not Itoje). Playing Youngs from the bench might help focus his mind on the basics again but not for too long you need him starting. Particularly with Farrell off form this England side lacks leaders. Youngs is one of those. It's a hard job.
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TightHEAD wrote:I personally still like Danny Care as a finisher.
Clever player and a bit unpredictable.
Had injury problems, also getting older and also prone to brain farts. He's not the future.
I do have fond memories of him at 9 dictating play with Farrell at 10.
I think we have to resign ourselves to Ben Youngs and his youthful sidekick Heinz for this 6N, unless there are injuries. But this tournament could well be the last in which they feature. There will have to be new blood for the summer tour and a good showing or two will change things.
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i think the Summer tour will give us a big insight in to where is Jones is taking this team / squad
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Robson and Spencer are the obvious ones. Then it's probably 12 to 18 months for the a few more to push their case. Care was dropped shortly after that NZ game where he acted like a headless chicken wasnt he?
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Robson and Spencer are the obvious ones. Then it's probably 12 to 18 months for the a few more to push their case. Care was dropped shortly after that NZ game where he acted like a headless chicken wasnt he?
There is this thing about absence making the heart grow fonder. Care has been terrific in the past and it's all too easy to sit back and compare him at his best vs the current version of Youngs.
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True enough. Anyone next to youngs form looks good however.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:i think the Summer tour will give us a big insight in to where is Jones is taking this team / squad
Exactly his hand will be forced there. Neither of the current two should be touring. The big question is will he send the extremely raw U20s scrum halves or the players hes never thought were quite good enough ( Robson and Sepncer) .
Or just pull another Heinz and find some random premiership journeyman noone had on their radar at all.
Regardless of how you view Heinz and Youngs in terms of quality there has to be at least one new scrum half bought through for 2021 season as a regular in the 23 because of their ages.
That none of the 20somethings even got in this extended training squad suggests it's far more likely to be one or two of the very young players stepping up out of the U20s for the summer and beyond.
Care is absolutely pointless, hes already 33 and has zero chance of being around for the next world cup.
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Gooseberry wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:i think the Summer tour will give us a big insight in to where is Jones is taking this team / squad
Exactly his hand will be forced there. Neither of the current two should be touring. The big question is will he send the extremely raw U20s scrum halves or the players hes never thought were quite good enough ( Robson and Sepncer) .
Or just pull another Heinz and find some random premiership journeyman noone had on their radar at all.
Regardless of how you view Heinz and Youngs in terms of quality there has to be at least one new scrum half bought through for 2021 season as a regular in the 23 because of their ages.
That none of the 20somethings even got in this extended training squad suggests it's far more likely to be one or two of the very young players stepping up out of the U20s for the summer and beyond.
Care is absolutely pointless, hes already 33 and has zero chance of being around for the next world cup.
Mitchell was in there as an apprentice and he should be playing first XV premiership rugby next season so we will see then if he will make it or not. He looked good in his one appearance against the Barbarians
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I think the progression of the England age grade players is interesting.
We have Kelemeti last years England U18 scrum half who looks fantastic...yet he's played...ONCE for us v Melrose. So he's unlikely to be in any thoughts.
i do blame Dean Richards for how slow he bring splayers through from the academy.
We have Kelemeti last years England U18 scrum half who looks fantastic...yet he's played...ONCE for us v Melrose. So he's unlikely to be in any thoughts.
i do blame Dean Richards for how slow he bring splayers through from the academy.
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25 man England training squad
Manu Tuilagi and Henry Slade have been named in a 25-man England training squad as they step up their rehabilitation from injury ahead of next weekend’s Six Nations clash with Ireland.
Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ben Earl (Saracens), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Will Stuart (Bath Rugby), Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby), Mako Vunipola (Saracens)
Backs: Elliot Daly (Saracens), Ollie Devoto (Exeter Chiefs), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), George Furbank (Northampton Saints), Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
Four players who were not part of the 23-man squad for the win in Scotland - Luke Cowan-Dickie, Charlie Ewels, Joe Marler and Ollie Thorley - have been recalled to the training squad.
Along with Lawes, the only other player who was involved in Edinburgh but will not be present in London this week is Bath hooker Tom Dunn.
Lawes rested & Cameron Redpath brought in for training purposes.
Manu Tuilagi and Henry Slade have been named in a 25-man England training squad as they step up their rehabilitation from injury ahead of next weekend’s Six Nations clash with Ireland.
Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ben Earl (Saracens), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Will Stuart (Bath Rugby), Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby), Mako Vunipola (Saracens)
Backs: Elliot Daly (Saracens), Ollie Devoto (Exeter Chiefs), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), George Furbank (Northampton Saints), Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
Four players who were not part of the 23-man squad for the win in Scotland - Luke Cowan-Dickie, Charlie Ewels, Joe Marler and Ollie Thorley - have been recalled to the training squad.
Along with Lawes, the only other player who was involved in Edinburgh but will not be present in London this week is Bath hooker Tom Dunn.
Lawes rested & Cameron Redpath brought in for training purposes.
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He got a rare start against Japan after the NZ match, and England struggled to impose themselves, some of the blame for which, was evidently laid at his door.No 7&1/2 wrote:...Care was dropped shortly after that NZ game where he acted like a headless chicken wasnt he?
However something else seems to have gone on too, There are hints he nagged Jones for more playing time, which Jones didn't care for. Nothing explicit has been said but Ashton and Monye on the BBC podcast seem to think he fell out of favour for reasons other than his performance on the field. The writing might have been on the wall when he was left at home for the South African tour. Jones claimed he was resting players but Robshaw, Haskell and Care didn't particularly need rests, while he took the Lions tourists, who probably could have done with a spell at home.
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Rugby Fan wrote:He got a rare start against Japan after the NZ match, and England struggled to impose themselves, some of the blame for which, was evidently laid at his door.No 7&1/2 wrote:...Care was dropped shortly after that NZ game where he acted like a headless chicken wasnt he?
However something else seems to have gone on too, There are hints he nagged Jones for more playing time, which Jones didn't care for. Nothing explicit has been said but Ashton and Monye on the BBC podcast seem to think he fell out of favour for reasons other than his performance on the field. The writing might have been on the wall when he was left at home for the South African tour. Jones claimed he was resting players but Robshaw, Haskell and Care didn't particularly need rests, while he took the Lions tourists, who probably could have done with a spell at home.
Nobody is bigger than the boss, as Townsend might say. And some of them find ways of proving it.
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BigTrevsbigmac wrote:25 man England training squad
Manu Tuilagi and Henry Slade have been named in a 25-man England training squad as they step up their rehabilitation from injury ahead of next weekend’s Six Nations clash with Ireland.
Just noting that Manu, Slade (and Redpath) are with the squad but not part of the 25.
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i wouldnt expect to see any of them playing v Ireland.
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Ok very confusingly worded...they havent been named on a 25 man squad. They are training alongside a 25 man squad.
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Gooseberry wrote:Ok very confusingly worded...they havent been named on a 25 man squad. They are training alongside a 25 man squad.
Yes it was confusingly worded. Looks like they are continuing their rehab alongside the training squad with an outside chance of playing pending full rehabilitation.
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Lawes rested! What does that mean?
Interestingly Cameron Redpath "training" with the squad.
Interestingly Cameron Redpath "training" with the squad.
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Think his fingers are tired from spouting Tory bollox on Twitter
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BamBam wrote:Think his fingers are tired from spouting Tory bollox on Twitter
If it annoys you then long may it continue.
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WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Lawes rested! What does that mean?
Oh Dear. I hope he didn't overdo the beers.
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Re: England 6 Nations Thread
Lawes rested probably means jones thinks he now has better options available: or Proudfoot does. Probably nothing to do with being an idiot on twitter.
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Re: England 6 Nations Thread
If Tom Dunn doesn't get capped after riding the bench for the entire Scotland game you'd have to feel for him. He's a strong player and deserves his shot in the squad with Tommy Taylor having been held back by injury and McGuigan not quite kicking on yet.
If George or Cowan-Dickie get rested in the summer I hope he tours and plays.
If George or Cowan-Dickie get rested in the summer I hope he tours and plays.
king_carlos- Posts : 12220
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Re: England 6 Nations Thread
Is redpath in there for learning systems or providing imitation of how ireland are going to play? Doesn't strike me as someone who would be pretending to be Aki!
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Re: England 6 Nations Thread
Earl having a powerful debut and the line-out functioning solidly in awful conditions make me worry less about the pack going into the Ireland game. Against Stander, van der Flier and O'Mahoney I can see Earl getting his first start.
Mako concerned me against Scotland though. I thought he looked a long way from full fitness.
The backs worry me though. Both defensively coming up against Murray and Sextons kicking game. Also in attack up against a possible centre pairing of Aki and Henshaw. If I were Andy Farrell I'd definitely be sticking with that powerful partnership given England have lacked go forward in the last two games.
9.Youngs 10.Farrell 11.May 12.Devoto 13.Joseph 14.Watson/Thorley 15.Furbank
21.Heinz 22.Ford 23.Daly
I honestly think that would have a lot more balance if Manu and Slade aren't available.
Mako concerned me against Scotland though. I thought he looked a long way from full fitness.
The backs worry me though. Both defensively coming up against Murray and Sextons kicking game. Also in attack up against a possible centre pairing of Aki and Henshaw. If I were Andy Farrell I'd definitely be sticking with that powerful partnership given England have lacked go forward in the last two games.
9.Youngs 10.Farrell 11.May 12.Devoto 13.Joseph 14.Watson/Thorley 15.Furbank
21.Heinz 22.Ford 23.Daly
I honestly think that would have a lot more balance if Manu and Slade aren't available.
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