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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 1:56 pm

Well I found it amusing anyway

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/58219/

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 1:57 pm

Already been done.
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Post by ThrowingLeather Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:11 pm

I've watched the fight back a few times now and It obvious that Haye's timing is well off. The fact that he stopped sparring 3 weeks before the fight certainly showed.

Also his balance is all over the place.. Im not talking about when Wlad pushes him to the canvas but his actual footwork. Its hard to know how much that toe injury was bothering him. Personally I think he should have pulled out if it was affecting his movement.

Post fight Ive heard a lot of people claim Haye was disgraced.. I think the fight was a lot closer than the cards suggest. In Round 10 Foreman had it even, and Stewart was calling it either way.

No doubt Wlad won but Haye landed some decent power shots, proved his chin and overall didnt do too badly for someone carrying an injury against such a good opponent.


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Post by fearlessBamber Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:18 pm

ThrowingLeather wrote:I've watched the fight back a few times now and It obvious that Haye's timing is well off. The fact that he stopped sparring 3 weeks before the fight certainly showed.

Also his balance is all over the place.. Im not talking about when Wlad pushes him to the canvas but his actual footwork. Its hard to know how much that toe injury was bothering him. Personally I think he should have pulled out if it was affecting his movement.

Post fight Ive heard a lot of people claim Haye was disgraced.. I think the fight was a lot closer than the cards suggest. In Round 10 Foreman had it even, and Stewart was calling it either way.

No doubt Wlad won but Haye landed some power shots and didnt do too badly for someone carrying a fairly significant injury.


In a way Haye actually won the fight and made good his prefight boasts.

I think at one point Haye gave Wlad a stern look whilst running away from him and isn't that really what counts ?

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:19 pm

You can try dress it up how you like, but Wlad, too string, too clever and too good!

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Post by ThrowingLeather Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:24 pm

Not denying the result.

But a few have made out Wlad put on some kind of virtuoso boxing class. Thats not how I saw it. Given Wlad is 2 stone heavier he wasn't willing to engage. Too safe.

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Post by ThrowingLeather Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:26 pm

fearlessBamber wrote:[

I think at one point Haye gave Wlad a stern look whilst running away from him and isn't that really what counts ?


Yeah, I think you're right. They need to have a look at the scoring system.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:27 pm

Foremans scorecard was a joke. I've no idea what he was seeing..

As for Manny of course hes not gonna say this ones in the bag go out and take it easy. Has to keep his man motivated and focused on the job. Plus the fight was in Germany and he knows what those judges can be like. Wait a minute........ Doh

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:29 pm

No one is saying Wlad is an ATG or anything, he is just quite a bit better than Haye, that is all.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:33 pm

A pair of glasses and a smile..

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Post by joeyjojo618 Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:35 pm

George must have been out of his mind to have it even by the tenth.

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Post by SugarRayBray Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:39 pm

Good as Foreman was, he is well known for talking drivel about boxing - as well as peculiar scoring habits.

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Post by SugarRayBray Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:40 pm

Haye's timing was off because Wlad stopped him getting set properly. He kept him off balance and nullified Haye's strengths.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:41 pm

I like George.....Can talk fights form a fighters perspective and when Lampley and Merchant were caught being biased..he wasn't afraid to call them on it..

Gutteridge and Watt had Pazienza beating Mayweather when everybody else had a Mayweather shutout..

It happens..

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:41 pm

Don't be daft Sugar, it was the toe!!

teh sort of toe injury footballers play whole seasons with

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:43 pm

JDandfries wrote:teh sort of toe injury footballers play whole seasons with

Care to back that statement up?
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Post by SugarRayBray Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:45 pm

Union Cane wrote:
JDandfries wrote:teh sort of toe injury footballers play whole seasons with

Care to back that statement up?

Stress fracture at worst. To me it looked like a very bad blister!

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:45 pm

I played a whole season with a broken toe, a few injections and there you go, and it ws my big pinky.

I here loads of footballers doing it, not sure if the injections would be allowed in boxing though, are they?

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:46 pm

SugarRayBray wrote:
Union Cane wrote:
JDandfries wrote:teh sort of toe injury footballers play whole seasons with

Care to back that statement up?

Stress fracture at worst. To me it looked like a very bad blister!

it did look like a blister, like he was trying to slip into some stilletos or something?

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:48 pm

JDandfries wrote:I played a whole season with a broken toe, a few injections and there you go, and it ws my big pinky.

I here loads of footballers doing it, not sure if the injections would be allowed in boxing though, are they?

That's your evidence is it?

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Did this broken toe of yours eventually heal then?
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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:50 pm

What eveidence would satify your curiosity?

My toe hasn't healed no, if I am honest it is screwed, but I played 28 games in a season having painkilling injections1

If you are daft enough to believe the toe bull from haye, then thats your look out!

It wasnt broken at all

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:50 pm

I made love seven times to my Wife in one night....

Reckon I could've made it eight if it wasn't for my pesky toe...

Toes do count...and Haye has my full sympathy..

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:51 pm

Big toe, maybe, little toe, nope, no way!

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Post by Scottrf Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:53 pm

JDandfries is the Chuck Norris of the sporting world.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:54 pm

Nothing to do with Haye, I was asking about these footballers who play whole seasons with a broken toe...
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Post by SugarRayBray Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:56 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I made love seven times to my Wife in one night....

Reckon I could've made it eight if it wasn't for my pesky toe...

Toes do count...and Haye has my full sympathy..

And your wife has mine.....

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Post by SugarRayBray Thu 07 Jul 2011, 2:57 pm

Union Cane wrote:Nothing to do with Haye, I was asking about these footballers who play whole seasons with a broken toe...

I don't know about broken, but some players are plagued by niggling and bad foot/toe injuries. Only one off the top of my head I can think of is Lineker, he used to have pain killing injections before games. It eventually ended his career.

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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:01 pm

Lampard
Terry
Schweinsteiger
Nani

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3068193/Nani-plays-with-a-permanently-broken-toe.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/lampards-broken-toe-has-chelsea-in-turmoil-460075.html

http://asia.eurosport.com/football/european-championship-qualification/2012/schweinsteiger-doubt_sto2795919/story.shtml

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:07 pm

The Nani one is cobblers, how can a toe be permanantly broken? Surely the bone would fuse back together.

The others say nothing about playing a whole season with the injury.
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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:15 pm

Point is, you can play football with a toe injury, so you should be able to box

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:16 pm

JDandfries wrote:Point is, you can play football with a toe injury, so you should be able to box

You can also play football with a broken wrist.
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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:19 pm

excellent, so we all agree David haye was using one of the worst excuses ever?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:21 pm

Using one of the worst excuses ever...

Who else has used it??

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:21 pm

JDandfries wrote:excellent, so we all agree David haye was using one of the worst excuses ever?

I wouldn't say it was one of the worst, its not quite in the same class as "My back is broken" is it...
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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:22 pm

It's pretty awful if you ask me!

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:23 pm

JDandfries wrote:It's pretty awful if you ask me!

I didn't.
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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:26 pm

You did, you asked me if it was as bad as a broken back

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Post by Scottrf Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:27 pm

I think it was rhetorical.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:27 pm

Anybody got a spare box?

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by JDandfries Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:28 pm

Scottrf wrote:I think it was rhetorical.

he definately didnt ask you!

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Post by Scottrf Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:29 pm

Yeah but I'm not pretending he did.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:30 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Anybody got a spare box?

I've got this...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zGfJPfExxzI/TRla60CRXeI/AAAAAAAABJ8/YWb_VHc40Sc/s1600/il_570xN.164363852.jpg

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:32 pm

Union Cane wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Anybody got a spare box?

I've got this...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zGfJPfExxzI/TRla60CRXeI/AAAAAAAABJ8/YWb_VHc40Sc/s1600/il_570xN.164363852.jpg

(Borrowed it from ROLEY)

Come on Union, you showed us this beauty yesterday. Pauline and the Perfessor have already bagged that.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:36 pm

Try this one then...

http://www.riffraffcustoms.com/assets/stripper-cages/cage2.jpg

(Lady not included)

*NSFW!
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Post by SugarRayBray Thu 07 Jul 2011, 3:46 pm

No getting around it, it was a feeble excuse.

If Wlad had been outpointed then used a little toe excuse, he would have been universally destroyed on these boards.

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