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rugbydreamer wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:I don't know how it can be improved but somehow the education system needs to be not completely centred on performance in exams.

I think something is being done to try and make certain subjects less exam focused and have more to do with coursework modules spread throughout the whole year that count for more than exams, but I'm not sure that's the answer either. It certainly isn't working very well at the moment though and needs some sort of change to occur.

Gibson wrote:ts one of the reasons we came here. My kids went through the Baclaureate system. Gives a more rounded education. Language-based and your perfomance, application and attitude, during the whole year - is counted highly in the exam marks. I really liked that. It also leans heavily at encouraging kids to mix cross-culturally and breaks down barriers. It has worked a treat for my lads. They can fit in anywhere in the World and both speak 3 languages fluently. And converse in others.

They learned History through French and Geography through Dutch. Used the Scottish Maths system, which is superb. They took the best bits from a lot of countries in fact. Gives them better perspective and a more rounded outlook. Irish History and I imagine British History lessons - at school level, are heavily-biased and skewed. I could see it on 606 and on V2 sometimes. Maybe Im wrong, but so glad I went the European route with them anyway. Its a matter of personal choice.

Notch wrote:

nottins wrote:

luckless_pedestrian wrote:Nottins, it was shortsightedness on the part of New Labour in 1997 to declare that they aimed for 50% of school leavers to go to university without trying to make sure there was a corresponding increase in the number of graduate jobs.

I much prefer stupidy over shortsightedness

Ridiculous. And ridiculous that we encourage everybody to go to University aged 18. I think the best thing to do is to go out and get a job after school save some money, and go back to University in your early twenties. Honestly think, nine times out of ten, that's the best age to start Uni. You need a job first to teach you about work ethic and personal responsibility otherwise you won't have the self-discipline and drive to actually get the best out of a University education.

So, so many people are nowhere near mature enough to make the best out of a University education immediately after they they leave school.

Gibson wrote: and I imagine British History lessons - at school level, are heavily-biased and skewed.

red_stag wrote:Penfro - what have you learnt about Monaco, Liechtenstein and the other principalities?

PenfroPete wrote:

red_stag wrote:Penfro - what have you learnt about Monaco, Liechtenstein and the other principalities?

You, young lad, have been hanging that Nottins too much

red_stag wrote:Penfro - what have you learnt about Monaco, Liechtenstein and the other principalities?

red_stag wrote:Gibboo hows it going. All good I hope

red_stag wrote:Belfast? No Gibbo we're meeting the Nordies in Dublin.

Can't say how chuffed I am your pal beat the cancer

Cancer 0 - 1 Dympy

red_stag wrote:What are Leinster playing on this weekend for.

red_stag wrote:Belfast? No Gibbo we're meeting the Nordies in Dublin.

Can't say how chuffed I am your pal beat the cancer

Cancer 0 - 1 Dympy

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Tendulkar gone

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Tendulkar gone

red_stag wrote:What are Leinster playing on this weekend for. Ireland are playing France AND Connacht (Ireland A I suppose).

They'll have hardly any players.

PenfroPete wrote:PROP – but;s because you’re a forward, the make allowances for that don’t they ?
EXAMS – seriously, lessons in school are like Driving Lessons. Driving lessons teach you how to pass the test NOT how todrive. I 'learnt' more in Primary School, where my teachers encourage my inquisitiveness and the 'brush' was a lot broader
UNIVERSITY = load of bollix saying 50% of people should be going. We’re still going to need carpenters, plumbers, mechanics, brickies ..etc

Anyway, all this modern education is sh!te.Repeat 1x2 is 2, 2x2 is 4 .....
Mick (TEFC): Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.

Penfro: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier, eh Rava?

Rava: You're right there Penfro.

Gibbo: Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Chateau de Chassilier?

Mick (TEFC): Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

Penfro: A cup o' COLD tea.

Gibbo: Without milk or sugar.

Rava: OR tea!

Mick (TEFC): In a cracked cup, and all.

Gibbo: We never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

Penfro: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

Rava: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

Mick (TEFC): Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

Gibbo: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.

Penfro: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing and we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!

Rava: You were lucky to have a ROOM! We used to have to live in a corridor!

Mick (TEFC): Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.

Gibbo: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpolin, it was a house to US.

Penfro: We were evicted from our hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!

Rava: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in a shoebox in the middle of the road.

Mick (TEFC): Cardboard box?

Rava: Aye.

Mick (TEFC): You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down the mill for fourteen hours a day week in week out, for sixpence a week. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

Penfro: Luxury! We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, work twenty hour a day at the mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

Rava: Well of course, we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.

Gibbo: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our Mother would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

Mick (TEFC): And you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't blydi believe ya'.

All: They won't..