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As long as there's no catchweight stipulation involved then its all good.

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D4thincarnation wrote:Donaire say he want to be undisputed bantamweight champ first so it look like might face Moreno or Kameda, Kameda would be a huge fight he is one of biggest stars in Japan and millions watch him when he is fighting.

But I personally a fight against Lopez or Gamboa would be huge and I would love to see it in a year or two.

What a boxer says and what he wants to do and what his manager/promoters do are often so far apart its incredible. Lets hope ND gets his wish.

He might do well at Super bantamweight, but I'd draw the line at Feather.

Don't think he has the strength to beat Gamboa or Lopez.

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D4thincarnation wrote:

Bob wrote:He might do well at Super bantamweight, but I'd draw the line at Feather.

Don't think he has the strength to beat Gamboa or Lopez.

No fighter get near him, he has great reactions and a great radar, and Donaire can bang, the shot he caught Montiel would have taken Lopez and Gamboa out. Montiel suffered a broken jaw.

Beside Donaire has said Pacquiao is his inspired him and show him how it is possible to move up the weights.

Maybe Pac did inspire him. After all he is now working with Vic Conte.

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Bob wrote:He might do well at Super bantamweight, but I'd draw the line at Feather.

Don't think he has the strength to beat Gamboa or Lopez.

No fighter get near him, he has great reactions and a great radar, and Donaire can bang, the shot he caught Montiel would have taken Lopez and Gamboa out. Montiel suffered a broken jaw.

Beside Donaire has said Pacquiao is his inspired him and show him how it is possible to move up the weights.

Montiel, in spite of struggling to make the weight, caught him a couple of times in the second.

Manny's rise through the weights was aided by the fact that below 140lbs he was freakin huge at the weight. Donaire isn't.

I think super bantam may be the limit for him as well, above that your going to have Lopez and Gamboa, by the time he'd make it to super feather Burns would no longer be champion in all probability. Also the most likely division for him to be on a collision course with the aforementioned who will move up themselves. A fight in the future with Nishioka would be interesting, a very under rated champion who proved to us british fans what he's all about when he dismantled Munroe.

It's difficult to tell the future in the lower divisions because you get so much movement both up and down the divisions. Think your being a bit hasty saying he would have taken Lopez and Gamboa out, power can become negated fairly quickly just because of a few pounds as history has proved time and time again.

D4 I hope i've come across as trying to discuss things with you fairly recently and will say it's quite shameful that despite no proof some posters are trying to suggest Pacquiao is on something. I'm a huge fan of Mayweather but can admit that Pacquiao is something special too, so Azania stop taking petty swipes at him.

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Dare I say it, the fact that Montiel is fighting at Bantamweight despite weighing that much in ring is in my opinion an indicator that he's not on the same level as Lopez or Gamboa, if he was why the need to dehydrate so much to make limit, makes me wish we had weigh ins on the day like in the good old days

imperialghosty wrote:D4 I hope i've come across as trying to discuss things with you fairly recently and will say it's quite shameful that despite no proof some posters are trying to suggest Pacquiao is on something. I'm a huge fan of Mayweather but can admit that Pacquiao is something special too, so Azania stop taking petty swipes at him.

I'm on record here praising the talents of Pac. On the thread about DOnairre I said he was not near Pac's level yet. As you said I have zero proof that he is on the huice. But I am of the firm belief that he is on something not permitted. Innocent until guilty and all that, but it is my opinion.

I also reckon Donairre should stay as far away from Conte as possible.

So in short if you have no proof he's on something so stop saying he is, I have some beliefs about you but im keeping them to myself

D4 on a side note do you think it's slightly worrying that Donaire doesn't fancy a fight with Moreno, the divisional two?

imperialghosty wrote:So in short if you have no proof he's on something so stop saying he is, I have some beliefs about you but im keeping them to myself

D4 on a side note do you think it's slightly worrying that Donaire doesn't fancy a fight with Moreno, the divisional two?

Everyone in sport knew Ben Johnson was juiced but no proof. Most knew Marion Jones was juicing also. I know athletes who shake their head in disbelief when they see Pac. Regardless of juicing or not, Floyd still beats him.

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D4thincarnation wrote:
Donaire was 126lbs in the ring against Montiel, the featheweight limit, Montiel was around 134lbs, thats light weight I should imagine Lopez and Gamboa enter the ring around that weight give or take a couple of lbs.

Don't know about Lopez, but Gamboa was 140 against Salido, making it unlikely he will stick around at 126lbs. If he did he'd be too big, fast and powerful for Flash.

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Donaire said himself after the Montiel fight that he doesn't want to fight Moreno, then when questioned over the fact he was the divisional number two replied he isn't a big enough name.

P4P Montiel has achieved more than either, my point was it's incredibly unlikely he'd compete very well against them at Featherweight.

The amount of titles around nowadays is the exact reason I ignore weight hopping, I can't imagine how many weights some of the past greats would have won at if there was 17 divisions with 4/5 champions at each.

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But they wouldn't be the number one in the division, think ring magazine have already said that he would have to beat Moreno to be openly recognized as the divisions number one. Surely you should take on the biggest challenge not the money option.

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As i've already stated until he's beaten Moreno will be the divisional number two above both Agbeko and Mares, for the simple reason he's proven himself against genuine bantamweights, Darchinyan has proven nothing at Bantamweight, has he even won a fight at the weight?

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It will be a blatent duck from Donaire if he avoids the divisions number two don't you agree?

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The Ring magazine have already said that Moreno will stay at number 2 regardless of the Agbeko/Mares fight.

Thanks D4 you fell into my trap perfectly shows up all your Floyd comments for what they are

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He has been saying today he fancies a fight with Anselo Moreno.

That would be an excellent fight and would enable him to unify with the divisional number 2.

There are even rumours it could land as chief support to Pacquiao's fight with Mosley....

samevans1 wrote:He has been saying today he fancies a fight with Anselo Moreno.

That would be an excellent fight and would enable him to unify with the divisional number 2.

There are even rumours it could land as chief support to Pacquiao's fight with Mosley....

They have Soto-Antillon, Vasquez-Arce and Pavlik already.

Great to see Donaire wanting to clean up though.

It will be nice to see a fighter genuinely clean out a division; especially one as talented as Bantam.

Too much weight jumping these days.