ten guys who should retire

In no particular order

. Kane

. Undertaker

. Ric Flair

. Kevin Nash

. Hulk Hogan

. Sting

. Scott Steiner

. Jerry Lawler

. Jerry Lynn

. Big Show


They taking up air time and valuable spots which could be utilized into other youthful up and coming wrestlers or the midcarders.

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i agree except hulk hogan

What 'young' guy is being denied TV time thats better than Jerry Lynn?

we dont because jerry lynn is on

ww don't what?

the-gaffer wrote:ww don't what?

jerry is on tv instead of a younger person

It's in general gaffer,some of it applies with tna some with the wwe.

Jerry Lynn should be nowhere near tna,let alone with this god awful storyline with rvd.

In what way is Taker taking up air time at the moment?

Lawler is an announcer and he doesn't have that many matches so i already consider him retired. If Cole was gone from that announce team I'm sure he would return to the decent announcer he used to be.

And i agree that Jerry Lynn has no place on that list.

However I concur with the rest of them and would possibly add Rey

Instead of what younger person Pauline? Unless you know who his appearances are holdinh back commenting is pretty pointless because you offer no prespective

I don't quite agree with Sting, although I would probably not have him so high up the card as TNA do. I think he still has something to offer, particularly TNA, in name recognition and elevation of others.

I don't really have qualms on the others, except Kane really (personal favourite), who I don't think takes up others spots, just keeps the mid-card ticking along generally!

Owl, since when does being older suddenly make someone past it, tell me who's on TNA's roster who is better than Jerry Lynn who isn't getting TV time?

the-gaffer wrote:Owl, since when does being older suddenly make someone past it, tell me who's on TNA's roster who is better than Jerry Lynn who isn't getting TV time?

Matt Hardy.

Undertaker is still a huge draw around mania season and that's likely all we'll see of him, if even.

None of the above do anything for me anymore and sting is my 2nd favourite wrestler of all time. I'm enjoying his work again but I don't want to see him headline bound for glory with hogan 15 years removed from their last meeting.

Jerry Lynn is to old,simple as that. Still can go but his time has come and gone.

The Undertaker is another strange choice, he's taken up zero TB time since Mania, he has the best USP associated with WrestleMania too, retiring him now without a story is illogical

Tonnes of guys who aren't getting featured enough,why not have a x division segment or knockouts segment?

Instead we have rvd and jerry Lynn in a hokey storyline.

Id rather see an x division match than seeing backstage segments and slits with jerry Lynn.

It's me personally,none of these guys do anything for me anymore.

When your only response to Jerry Lynn is that he's to old then there really is no point debating with such a blinkered viewpoint, until someone can name a name whois better than him that he's keeping off TV, saying 'he's to old' just doesn't cut it

Why the heck should Stenier retire?

I'm no fan of RVD but when TNA breakdown the rating quarter hours RVD is usually always in the top 3/4 so you have to expect they'll make him a focal point

@ gaffer

Well debate over,nothing left to say on the matter.

Gen me,red,lethal have all left because if lack of being used correctly and t.v time when all the old guard eat up t.v time.

That's my point,let's move on.

Lethal was in TNA for years and years, I bet most casuals didn't even know who he was until he had a program with an old guy Ric Flair, I really liked Lethal but he spent so long as a tribute act he had forgot to get himself a personality, I'm not a fan of Red, he was bland, don't blame Jerry Lynn for them not being on TV though

As for Generation Me, they failed in TNA BECAUSE TNA wanted to resurrect the X Divison, they weren't into working singles, poor choice for your argument

Well I'm not a casual fan am i?

These are MY personnel opinions.

I notice u haven't commented on Lynn's his awful storyline which will most likely culminate in a match at b.f.g.

Shawn Michaels is only 2 years younger than Lynn, and Austin is a year younger. I am sure fans would like to see them have another match.

I don't think age is an issue as long as you can still "cut it". That goes for any sport or profession for that matter. Lynn can still do the business in the ring which is the most important factor.

Out of the list I would agree that Flair, Hogan, Nash and the Undertaker should cease wrestling. The others I feel still have something to give in a limited wrestling role. Lawler is of course the odd one out as he only does appear from time to time for nostagia pops.

Even then, I would still keep some for their pulling power. Just not to wrestle. They should also always play a backseat role to younger performers.

Hogan, Flair, Jarrett, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Big Show, RVD, Jerry Lynn, Lawler, Sting

Haha


Comparing legends like Austin and Michaels to Lynn is laughable in all honesty.

So what's holding tna back from pushing him? I think I know the answer but then again I might be wrong.

The reason I respect Shawn is because he got out at the right time,I commend him for that.

Take Lynn out and put JJ in,he is absolutely abysmal.

Whats to comment about? RVD seems loath to put anyone over so Jerry Lynn is being used to take RVD out of the BFG series without it damaging RVD and lead in to a high profile match between the two, pretty straight forward, logical booking to be honest, don't understand why you're in a tizzy about it, also, if you're not a casual fan then you'll be able to understand why Lethal and Red where let go, they tried to build Lethal loads of times but he was only ever a tribute act and tne fans never stuck with any of his pushes (which you'll know since you're not a casual) which is shame because he is talanted

@gaffer

Cheers for clearing everything up.

Your a legend.

HitmanOwl, you didnt really give this article much thought, did you? Were they the first 10 names that popped into your head?

I know!

Fed up seeing guys who I watched I'm their primed,hogging t.v time. Which I'd rather see some other guys which I'm really interested in.

@ Mr h

ARE YOU LISTENING.

these are my personnel opinions,whether I'm right or not I don't care. I,myself don't want to pay to watch theses wrestlers anymore.

Why haven't I put any thought into it when I crested this thread to put across my own opinion? Boggles my mind aswell.

You're voicing your opinion on a public forum so you put your opinion up there for people to discuss, If people agreed with you I doubt you'd be so protective of your opinion man

Why haven't tna pushed jerry Lynn then gaffer?

It looks like Jerry Lynn is going to be competing in TNA's biggest PPV against one of their biggest names and draws, its clearly a short term feud, they seem to be pushing him and the storyline well and logically

HitmanOwl wrote:Haha


Comparing legends like Austin and Michaels to Lynn is laughable in all honesty.

So what's holding tna back from pushing him? I think I know the answer but then again I might be wrong.

The reason I respect Shawn is because he got out at the right time,I commend him for that.

Take Lynn out and put JJ in,he is absolutely abysmal.

I'm not comparing them as wrestlers, I am comparing them by their age.

It seems by your post that as soon as you reach a certain age that you should just give it up, regardless of what you have to offer. That is what I consider laughable

Put another way. Hulk Hogan is 10 years older than Lynn. If he went out at the same age as Lynn is now, we would never have seen Hogan's match with the Rock a WM18.

Age is a number, as long as your not crapola at what you do. Hell, I would rather watch a Lynn match than a Cena match right now! And if the TNA employ him and give him storylines over other people then that is not his fault. He shouldn't just stand aside for up and comers and forfit a pay cheque just because "he should". They need to earn their spot and get noticed.

Ric Flair past it

Taker is shot

Hogan is past it

Nash can't go anymore

Steiner can barely move

Big show has had his day

Kane ditto

Lawler is 85% retired

Sting should be nowhere near a main event or tna whc

Jerry Lynn maybe your right.

Before he came back in March I'd have facepalmed Sting being the top man again but his character development has been the most entertaining thing on iMPACT Wrestling TV for months IMO

Sting may be in the twilight of his career but he has been on fire since creating this Joker gimmick. Kudos to him.

This is a problem with wrestling and the reason why many people prefer MMA.

I can think of a few guys i would like to see retire just on their in ring ability irrespetive of age Otunga , Zeke come to mind .

I do agree that the likes of Hogan hog the limelight to much and need to step back , Taker and Sting can still offer for want of a better phrase the x factor they are watchable ,the Sting joker character is the best gimmick in TNA , and everyone wants to see Taker at Mania .

Some Guys just dont know when to call it a day unless they get injured but thats gone on for years .

Sting is my 2nd favourite wrestler of all time,this gimmick suits him to a t. People say he couldn't make a impact in wwe are deluded. He is entertaining and the fans are responding.

That being said I wouldn't be to upset if he announced his retirement tomorrow.

King Kenny you're spot on, give me Lynn, Sting, and Taker and hell even Nash over young guys like Zeke, Otunga, Darren Young and Heath Slater any day of the week

Kane - Not just yet

. Undertaker - 1 more maina run maybe 2 for a push

. Ric Flair - 100 %

. Kevin Nash - Im really enjoying his run in the wwe at the moment i still really enjoy him on screen.

. Hulk Hogan - I would love to see him in the wwe. Hogan still rules !

. Sting - Would love to see a match with him and taker and maina that is all

. Scott Steiner - Retire

. Jerry Lawler - Dont mind the odd match

. Jerry Lynn - 10000 % retire

. Big Show - A couple of years left in him i think

What it seems you have done is picked the first ten old guys you could think of and put them in a list.

I won't bother commenting on the TNA picks because I don't watch it but on your WWE picks, there doesn't seem to be much logic there.

Kane, Undertaker and Big Show are all taking time off and allowing younger stars to flourish in their absence. Kane and Big Show have recently shown their value in putting over people, sure it may have been Mark Henry rather than somebody younger but in the future they could be used to put over a younger star, they are big names in the WWE. Jerry Lawler doesn't even wrestle anymore.

Alot of guys your mentioned have presense in the ring and on screen, Hogan, Nash and Flair in particular.

Where we would be if Nash hadnt attacked Punk at Summerslam? Punk would have had his enevitable rematch with Cena in which Cena would finally beat Punk and he would then be shoved back down into obscurity.

Nash is giving Punk something meaningful to do, as is Jerry Lynn for RVD.

Taker and Kan both dont have long to go, both have said as much.

I like the Big Show. I know hes not the most talented on the ring but I just like the guy. I get the impression he would be a top notch bloke.

Lawler has the odd match here and there but so what? He helped put the Miz over earlier in the year, and Miz got a brilliant TLC match from him.

Sting still has it.

Steiner, Flair and Hogan need to stay around because they are big names. Pushing an up and comer and having them go over Flair or Steiner is a good move for the pushee.

the-gaffer wrote:Instead of what younger person Pauline? Unless you know who his appearances are holdinh back commenting is pretty pointless because you offer no prespective

brian kendrick

I was gonna agree with you until you said Brian Kendrick

Also: ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT

Madrox wrote:I was gonna agree with you until you said Brian Kendrick

he lucks younger then jerry

Also, before I go. This lifted straight from Hitmans "5 best of all time" list.

HitmanOwl wrote:

1. Hulk Hogan

4. Ric Flair