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Forward Passes, Crocked Throws and Feeding your ball to the second row at the Scrum.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:11 pm

Unfortunately a big part of many of the tries/pressure and penalties rightfully and often wrongfully given at this RWC.

There have been directives to referees in the past to clamp down on iffy passes, throws and feeds over the last couple of years. But they still seem to be rules that are adhered to only occasionally, leaving many fans aggrieved at the refs lack of consistency.

Why don't the Touch judges assist more?

Is it possibly because Touch judges are inevitably also referees re appointed, instead of being full time touch judges?


Any thoughts on the activity of Touch Judges..! Whether they could help more, whether they do enough already. Whether you are happy with the game or unhappy?


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Post by Geordie Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:15 pm

I would like to see them really getting at the crooked scrum feed.

Make the SH's put it in to the middle not the no.8 's feet

And you dont need to ask Brian Moore what he thinks of it.... Very Happy

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:17 pm

you can only improve on human error so much- time to get real and utilse tech more, just one ref watching the tv coverage in real time is all thats needed.

There is a massive problem at present with all sports where the millions and millions of viewers out there can see whats going on better than the person/people judging the game!!! its that simple and seems to cause problems in more games than it doesnt.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:22 pm

To true... Brian Moore is rather verbal about it.

Though rightly so, the scrum and line out were originally designed to be 50-50 ball. Therefor an opportunity for the defending team to contest for the ball.

One school of thought is that now that the Line Out and Scrum is effectively a re-start, (so few go against the attacking team), that forces the relevance of trying to win the ball at the breakdown.

There are probably four times as many turnovers, in your average match, as there are line-outs won against the throw, or scrums against the head.

The tightness of the breakdown has become a far more likely a place to turn over possession which means attacking sides are far more wary of phase play, cautious of losing ball.

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Post by Geordie Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:36 pm

Maesteg

Ive said that for a while now...they're not challenges anymore....just a means of restarting the play ala rugby league.


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Post by maestegmafia Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:52 pm

Geordie,

In my opinion it hasn't gone that far, but it is a valid point you make.

The definitive difference between the sports has to be continuity at the break down. But that also has to be contestable for the relevance of the different aspects of the game to work.

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Post by Geordie Sat 22 Oct 2011, 2:15 pm

No your right im exagerating a little..... Wink

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