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AP Round 8

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Post by Driver Sun 30 Oct 2011, 10:13 pm

Leicester Tigers v London Irish
Sunny , 14 degrees , 10mph wind


Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Gethin Jenkins09. Dimitri Yachvili (k)
02. Sebastian Bruno10. Jonny Wilkinson
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Nathan Hines11. Topsy Ojo
05. Alex Brown12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Tom Croft13. Brian O'Driscoll (c)
07. David Pocock14. Cory Jane
08. Ernst Joubert15. Isa Nacewa
16. Wyatt Crockett 17. Lee Mears 18. Jonny Harris 19. Chris Jack 20. Thomas Waldrom 21. Micky Young 22. Brock James 23. Rob Miller

Tactics

GENERAL:

- We are looking to get our backs into the game as much as possible by attacking the lineout and the breakdown. We will look to get our back three on the ball causing Irish problems defensively. We will be physical and relentless up front and pacey and clinical in attack.

- Defensively we will look to blitz, with Yachvili sweeping behind the defensive line to deal with any short kicks.

- Early on Yachvili to kick all penalites within range, but we won't necessarily go for the 3 points as the game progresses. BOD to make the call dependant on the success of the lineout.

- Get after JMH and Pienaar as much as we can. Irish have one HB as cover on the bench, and a few big hits could leave them short of options.

- Look to use our bench to win the game in the last 30 mins. Waldrom to come on at 50 mins to impact the game with his carrying, along with Crockett. Jack to strengthen our pack and set piece, Young to inject pace around the fringes and Brock James to come on if we need a spark in the back line.

FORWARDS:

- Attack the lineout as a weapon using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and Wilkinson. A.Brown to call the lineout - Hines and Croft alternating at the front, Brown in the middle and Joubert at the rear. We will relentlessly target Buckland's throws.

- At the scrum Bruno to look to give Buckland a schooling. Jenkins and Johnston picked to provide stability up against Castro and Tonga. Tonga in particular is used to playing props shorter and lighter and using his power to bulldoze through them, but Johnston is the same height and actually heavier than him. With Joubert marshalling the base, we will look to use attacking scrums as a platform to get us going forward at every opportunity.

- Look to Joubert, Pocock, Croft, Jenkins, Hines and Johnston to give us real go-forward with their carrying. With the ball in hand we want to attack together in groups so as not to become isolated, and if it is on we will look to offload in or just before the tackle. All players are to act as support runners when they can.

- Pocock is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Irish. Our other forwards will look to ruck past the ball and clear out Irish players enabling us to effect turnovers. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.

BACKS:

- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili pulling the strings. We will look to go through the phases and dominate possession, move Irish around with our half back's tactical kicking, and unleash our pacey back three as and when we can.

- If the game is tight and the ball isn't coming quickly, Wilkinson will look to drop into the pocket and keep the scoreboard ticking over with drop goals.

- Twelvetrees can act as our second receiver, and can hit the gain line hard to make yards. BOD to play his natural game, be the leader in our midfield, and look to get our back three into the game.

- Our back three are encouraged to do what comes naturally to all of them - counter attacking and running the ball back. The weather is good for running rugby, and we hope to see some great breaks. All have good boots to rely on if it isn't on or they are isolated, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.


KEY POINTS:

- Home Advantage - Unbeaten at home since the start of last season. Welford Road is once again the fortress that we all know.

- Attack the lineout as a weapon using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and Wilkinson.

- Target the breakdown - Pocock is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Irish.

- If the game is tight, Wilkinson will look to drop into the pocket and keep the scoreboard ticking over with drop goals.

- Likes of Waldrom, Crockett, Jack and B.James to come on. Powerful front row that is both solid in the set-piece and with ball carrying in Crockett and Mears. Jack to strengthen our pack and set piece, and Waldrom to provide huge carrying impact. Young to inject pace around the fringes, B.James if we need a spark, and Miller who is in dazzling form.


London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Soane Tonga'uhia09. Ruan Pienaar
02. James Buckland 10. Juan Martin Hernandez
03. Martin Castrogiovanni
04. Mouritz Botha11. Sailosi Tagicakibau
05. Nick Kennedy 12. Sireli Naqalevuki
06. George Stowers13. Jacques Fourie
07. Hendrie Fourie 14. Bjorn Basson
08. Pierre Spies15. Delon Armitage

16. Duncan Bell 17. Neil Briggs 18. WP Nel 19. Matt Garvey 20. Joe Worsley 21. Julien Dupuy 22. Matthew Tait 23. Sonny Bill Williams

London Irish welcome back Samoan's George Stowers and Sailosi Tagicakibau to the starting line up, whilst top try scorer Bjorn Basson returns in place of J.P Pieterson. Mouritz Botha is picked ahead of Dean Mumm in the 2nd row and Sireli Naqalevuki deservedly keeps his place at inside centre, with Sonny Bill Williams having to settle for a place on the bench. Juan Martin Hernandez makes his second start of the season at fly half, with Ruan Pienaar reverting to his usual position of scrum half.

Tactics

We want to get as much ball to our backs as possible as we feel we have the pace and power to really hurt the Tigers. We may be away from home, but we fear no-one and have a backline full of dangerous runners that can hurt any defence.

Upfront we have selected a powerful set of forwards to dominate in the loose as well as the setpiece.

We will ruthlessly target the setpiece and can see a lot of joy here. Tonga'uhia and Castro will go after their opponents at scrum time and look to win as many as penalties as possible for JMH to kick. Castro will really look to pressure Jenkins and drive him back.

At lineout time, Kennedy will be our main go to man, with Botha, Spies and Stowers also providing options. Kennedy will disrupt as much opposition ball as possible on Bruno's throw.

Both scrum and lineout will be used as platforms to attack off. We want to get as much ball as possible to the backs and get Naqa and Fourie involved as much as possible.

In the loose, we will look to overpower the Tigers. We feel they lack some grunt and ball carrying power, and we have picked three brutes in the backrow to over power them. Stowers, Botha, Tonga, Castro and Spies will hit the rucks hard and look to dominate this area and not let Pocock have free reign. We will get Fourie in at the breakdowns to secure quick ball and legally slow down any opposition ball. We will look for our big ball carriers to make the hard yards around the fringes and suck in Tigers defence before spreading the ball to the backs to exploit gaps.

Wilko has struggled to get a backline going recently and we will play a rush defence to get up in the faces of the Tigers and disrupt their momentum.

Naqalevuki will look to give 12T a schooling and use his power and pace to run at him and test his defence. We will have support runners like Fourie or Tagicakibau off him to collect offloads and create overlaps.

We will not kick aimless ball away to the Tigers back 3, but look to Delon and Tagi to run the ball back as both are strong runners who make a lot of metres. We will ensure we dont give away penalties here and get sufficient players in at the breakdown to secure our own ball.

Sonny Bill to come on at 55 mins to create more problems for the Tigers defence. JMH to kick all pens for goal.

To sum up, we want to dominate upfront where we feel we have superior power in the loose, and a stronger set piece, to dominate ball and territory and allow our backs to run riot.

Good luck Luke.


Exeter Chiefs v Gloucester Rugby
Heavy rain , 15 degrees , 12mph wind


Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Driver

01.Andrew Sheridan 09.Byron Kelleher
02.John Smit 10.Ronan O'Gara
03.Davit Zirkashvilli
04.Simon Shaw 11.Luke Fitzgerald
05.Juilian Pierre 12.Gordan D'Arcy
06.Lewis Moody (c) 13.Adam Powell
07.Shane Jennings 14.Luke Arscott
08.Johnnie Beattie 15.Lee Byrne

16.Neil Clark 17.Salvator Perugini18.Tom Mercy 19.Peter Short 20.Ben Skirving 21.Nick Phipps 22.George Pisi 23.Steven Myler

Tactics

- Play the percentages with a monster front 5 and using our back line to ping Gloucester in there own 22 for 80 minutes.

- We will look to scrum down at every opportunity and really attack Gloucester and out plenty of pressure on them with Smit and Zirka really scrimmaging on Joe Grey with Sheridan looking to get in at White and cause the old man problems.

- D’Arcy and Powell are both direct hard runners and will give us plenty of head way up the middle.

- Defence is all about line speed and getting on the back foot which is key for our use of Moody and Jennings. In what will be a forward orientated game the breakdown will be key and having Moody and Jennings in our back row will play the breakdown into our hands.

- we will commit as little to the ruck as possible and flood the field with numbers forcing gloucester into a forward battle/

- Lineouts will be snappy with the man straight up and down ,

- we will peel from the centre off the drive at the lineout and set a seperate maul to force the glaws pack to retreat onside to try and stop a maul going forward. (We will use this particular in the opposition 22)

- We will go back to basics and take the big runners round the legs whilst allowing the supporting defender to go for the ball.

- Kelleher to tie the back row up with snipes and short pops at the fringes to take pressure off ROG.

- ROG to drop goals and kick most penalties. Always leave they half with points

Game specific tactics

[list]Kicking game - Fitzgerald , Arscott and Byrne most notablely are all solid under the high ball and best suited to these conditions. Horsea Gear and Sinbad are both flakey under the high ball and will be taking bombs all afternoon.

Richard Kahui - Kahui spent the entire RWC on the wing , will he be able to adjust to centre again in one game.

Carter in a territory battle is no where near as much use as ROG in these types of games and conditions.

Rupert Harden will eventually replace White and will not have an easy afternoon first coming up against Andrew Sheridan and then Salvator Perugini - who won’t take prisoners at scrum time.

Tactical points of advantage

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Gloucester
Manager – ‘Mat

01. Steenkamp 09. Will Genia
02. Gray 10. Dan Cartetr
03. Julian White
04. Bakkies 11. JSD
05. Tom Palmer (c) 12. Hape
06. Steven Ferris13. Richard Kahui
07. Schalk Burger 14. Gear
08. Alberts 15. Israel Dagg

16. Nick Wood17. Adriaan Strauss 18. Rupert Harden 19. Richie Gray 20. Andy Saull 21. Dave Lewis 22. Berrick barnes 23. May

Tactics


Gloucester travel to Exeter Buoyed after beating an exceptionally strong SArries side. It is going to be wet and miserable at Sandy Park and Gloucester have the team to win and win well.

SCRUM

Obviously in conditions like this you need a rock solid set piece and ball carriers galore to keep the ball and work your way into conditions to allow the half backs to control the game and dictate play.

Glaws have gone with a monster line up that is also mobile.

in the SCrums we will be looking to win our own ball clean and get a wheel on to allow either Alberts to pick up and go or for Genia to get the ball away quickly to carter to kick for territory or launch runners at the gainline.

On Exeter ball we will be looking to disrupt their put in and drive them back either creating bad ball for them or taking against the head. WE have 2 huge scrummagers in Steenkamp and White. and a huge powerful back 5 that will not let up the pressure. White is on to play 40-50 minutes and to really hurt the Sheridan who has played a couple of games in a year and who must be struggling a little.

Lineout

As ever we are chock full of Jumpers and will be looking to secure our own ball and drive to suck in leicester and tire them before launching runners off the back of the Maul. in Conditions like these there will be a lot of front ball and bakkies is the king of this. We will then look to hit off the top a bit more as the game progresses and put big runners like Kahui and Hape over the gain line into people like Powell.

On their ball we will try and exploit their lack of jumpers and put pressure on the ball. if they win it they win scrappy ball. we will look to flood through and pressure Kelleher and in turn ROg.

Forwards General

We will be looking to keep the ball and force Exeter to commit men to tackling and into the rucks and mauls. The aim is to win the collisions and territory and dictate our game on to them. It will be forward dominated due to the rain and we feel we have a lot more up front. We are packed with ball carriers in Steenkamp, Gray, BAkkies, palmer, Ferris, Alberts and Burger. this will allow us to keep the ball and wear out the exeter pack.

We feel exeter lack the ball carriers we do and will be easier to defend against. there only carrier in the backrow is beattie who has been struggling for a long time. We aim to smash every maul and actually send numbers into rucks to counter ruck and give them poor quality ball. Everything is slower in the wet and we aim to grind them down and exploit their lack of dynamic carriers in the pack. we will keep ball all day and then release only good ball to the backs when they want it.

We are also aiming to use our bench. Strauss, Wood, Grey, harden will all come on and are in excellent form in real life. bench options are strongly in glaws favour.

BACKS

The backs will be looking to use what ball they get in a constructive way.

We have the 2 best half backs in world rugby and they will dictate tempo and when the ball is used. Carter is very used to the Wet as he plays for Canterbury where it is bloody miserable half the year and will be looking to dominate Ogara in both kicking and obviously in running.

first half we will be playing a territry based game with forwards keeping the ball and then releasing the ball allowing Carter to either kick for touch, high ball or push in behind them for our back 3 to chase. in our 22 Dagg will often receive the ball as he demonstrated in the WC he has one of the biggest clearance kicks in world rugby and will be used.

the other options carter will look to use will be to hit Hape and Kahui to target powell or to tie in Darcy and to recycle ball to attack again.

As we start to get in the ascendency we will look to use Gear coming up through channels and also look to move it wide if its on. you do not have a back 3 like JSD, Gear and Dagg and not try and use it.

We will look to employ the cross kick if on with Gear having a physical mismatch against either fitz or Arscot
Defence

We will use Genia to sweep but will also be looking to blitz when necessary. Kelleher is getting a bit long in the tooth and if we can disrupt ball it makes sense to blitz and pressure O'gara who is not a natural at moving the ball.

Must also take issue with Gear and JSD being flakey under the high ball. JSD in particular is immense under the high ball and i am sure prop will also say you never see him drop a high ball. if he was flakey then AP teams would target him on this. They dont which shows you how good he is under it,

Key Points

1 more form players throughout the team
2 more ball carriers all over the park and this is what helps keep ball in the rain
3 World class half backs that are the best in the world at dictating a game and can play any style.
4 Dynamic bench capable of blowing away the game. Also have the option of Barnes to come on add to the kicking options from centre to dominate territory game.




London Wasps v Northampton Saints
Light rain , 14 degrees , 9mph wind


London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry

01. Perry Freshwater 09. Michael Claassens
02. Steve Thompson 10. Jimmy Gopperth
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Mark Chisholm 11. Lachie Turner
05. Marco Wentzel (c) 12. Luke McAlister
06. James Haskell 13. Jamie Roberts
07. Jacques Burger 14. Tom Williams
08. Roger Wilson 15. Mike Brown

16. Andy Titterell 17. Charlie Beech 18. CJ Van Der Linde 19. Steve Mafi 20. Tom Johnson 21. Mike Blair 22. Rory Clegg 23. Noah Cato

Tactics
Tactics
After winning our last four games in all competitions we are feeling very high on confidence and feel that we go into this clash with Northampton Saints with plenty of momentum. We have picked a gritty, powerful and physical forward pack which will work very hard at rucks and winning us set piece ball at scrum time and lineout. We feel that if we can assert ourselves physically and win the forward battle, providing our backs with a solid platform we will be able to come have a good chance of claiming a hard fought victory. We have plenty of players who are bang in form and we are unbeaten at home which is a big positive.

Our game plan is based around using the power we have in our team to set out a platform for our backs to be able to attack from. We will look to use the set piece as a platform for attacks. Our front row is a very good scrummaging unit and we will hopefully be able to build attacks from there and earn some penalties for Gopperth to make use of. Our pack will be physical and relentless up front, we will play with controlled aggression. We will look to our forwards to get us onto the front foot by attacking in groups with some grunt and powerful carrying, getting us over the gain line. We will start as we mean to go on with a high intensity, hitting the collision area hard and driving our players over the gain line. We will look to recycle the ball efficiently within the pack taking the ball through plenty of phases to wear the Saints down.

We have two excellent kicking options in Gopperth and McAlister we will look to kick in behind the Northampton Saints wingers and keep them pinned back where we will look to isolate and pressurize them into making mistakes in their own half. We will look to hit the rucks hard and compete when we can, any turnovers we do make we will look to get the ball out wide and attack the space available. We will look to make a nuisance of ourselves at the breakdown and spoil the quality of the Saints ball with good counter rucking. At rucks on our own ball we will look to secure the ball by coming from low to high to present Claassens with clean, quick ball and get our forwards running onto the ball at different angles to pierce the Saints defence.

In the forwards we will look to drive our carriers over the gain line and really look to win the collisions. We have plenty of dynamic carriers including the explosive and in form James Haskell. Gopperth will look to bring in our strike runners in McAlister and Roberts. If it is on we will look to offload the ball to the supporting players and keep Saints working off the ball in defence. We will look for the in form Roberts to run plenty of good lines and stay strong in the contact area and either offload if he wins the collision, or the support players will keep driving him on, building up momentum and speed in our attacks. So long as our ball carriers have the support, we will look to pierce gaps in the Saints defensive line and offload to supporting players, keeping the ball alive as much as possible.

With the ball in hand we will look to our strike runners to attack gaps and half gaps in their defence targeting the outside shoulder of the Saints players and will look to attack the fly half channel in the Saints defence and put Giteau off his game, hopefully opening them up. When possible we will look to get our offloading game going to alternate the point of attack and keep the Saints working off the ball in defence and pierce the gaps we have created. With quick ball and offloading we will look to create and expose mismatches in the midfield. Our mobile and dynamic back row will look to support our ball carriers, taking offloads and powerfully driving forward. We will ensure our ball carriers have plenty of support in each phase, so they we can continue to play an offloading game. Any loose kicks our back three get will be returned with interest. We have plenty of pace in our back three and will look to use them when we can.

At lineouts we will look to exert as much pressure as possible on the Saints throws with Wentzel looking to steal some opposition throws. On our own throw we will use Wentzel as our main go to man but will mix it up by using Chisholm, Haskell and Wilson. From there we will look to slowly sap the energy out of the Saints by using the rolling maul. We will look to suck in as many Saints defenders to open up spaces elsewhere for us to attack. We’ll look to really target the set piece and create a platform, we feel that we can gain an advantage here, if we get a nudge on we will look to keep the Saints going backwards. Our back row will look to really get in Giteau’s face and put him off of his game. We will ensure our discipline is exemplary. We will play hard rugby but ensure we play by the rules, discipline will be key. We feel that if our forwards can get us onto the front foot we have the half backs who will keep their cool and manage our game.

We will look to attack in numbers, we have plenty of powerful and dynamic carriers in our pack who will get us over the gain line and set us out a solid platform to build from. We have plenty of grit in our team and feel that if we can push Northampton onto the back foot by winning the forward battle we will be able to unsettle them. We want to continue our winning ways and feel that if we can play at a high tempo and push the Saints onto the back foot we will be able to do this. Our gritty forwards will set the tone with huge carrying and from there we will look to get our offloading game going and bring our strike runners into the game. We have plenty of impact to call upon from the bench to continue our high levels of intensity and power.
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Northampton Saints Team:

Manager – dammit chris
01. Matt Stevens 09. Joe Simpson
02. Dylan Hartley10. Matt Giteau(k)
03. Carl Hayman
04. Courtney Lawes11. Siti Siviatu
05. Patricio Albacete12. Jean de Villiers
06. Rocky Elsom13. Max Evans
07. Alexandre Lapandry 14. Chris Ashton
08. Sergio Parisse(c) 15. Ben Foden

16. Rob Webber 17. Zak Taulafo 18. Bob Baker 19. Dave Attwood 20. Simon Taylor 21. Liam Messam 22.Leigh Halfpenny 23. Manu Tuilagi

We've picked a team that is perfect for the conditions, it is light rain, which will allow us to still throw the ball around in the backline and score tries, but it is essential that we have a pack that will compete with Wasps and get our backline the ball. We've gone for a 6-2 split on the bench so we can put a lot of pressure on Wasps throughout the 80 minutes. We believe that if we can keep the scoreboard close with Wasps at the 60 minute mark our subs bench will win the game and our advantage is that we have far more match winners in the backline to score a try that could be vital in a close game.

Key points
* This game is all about territory and possession – we will kick the ball deep and play the game in Wasps’ half. Putting pressure on them when we are in their 22 and forcing mistakes, penalties and disrupting the games flow. If we play the game in Wasps half we remove Gopperth’s kicking threat and put a lot of pressure on McAlister to get his team going forward.
* Strong set piece, more than capable of holding its own and as subs come into play we've got 6 forwards to bring on, 3 full internationals and two Saxons - will make our pack stronger as the game players out.
* We bring in two fresh players to our backrow, this is an area that we will be looking to target and have opted for an out and out 7 this week in Lapandry to target the breakdown. We can also bring Messam into the mix as an impact sub.
* We will look to put Wasps under a lot of pressure throughout the 80minutes, constantly hassling, and trying to force mistakes. Special attention will be on Gopperth who is largely a kicking fly half and we will ensure that our backrow gives him a few big hits early on. There is a big gulf in class between Gopperth and Giteau, so Saints need to make the most of this.
* We've learnt our lessons from last week and have brought Max Evans in at 13 to give Giteau more support in controlling a game - he is a better reader of the game than Tuilagi and gives us a good kicking option out wide.
* We are going to be more adventurous than Wasps, and will still go out looking to give our back three ball and take advantage in the difference between the back threes.

Forwards – Set Piece & Breakdown
We have picked a team that will look to take Wasps on at the set piece and have picked a poweful scrummaging unit to take them on up front. Albacete and Lawes add a lot of power to the scrum and if any of the pack is tiring or we see that Wasps are struggling we will turn the screw by freshening up with Webber, Taulafo, Attwood, Taylor and Messam.

We've reduced our lineout options this week, with Lawes, Albacete and Parisse our jumpers, and will look to keep the calls simple in the first half to just ensure we obtain the ball and start going through the phases. We will look to put Wentzle under pressure and force Thompson's throwing into mistakes, this is an area we feel we have the advantage in because although Hartley didn’t have the best WC, his lineout throwing was incredibly accurate.

Defensively at the lineout we are we will get Simpson to stand in the 5 metre channel (as a hooker would do) – and then bring Hartley into the lineout itself and move Elsom into the midfield to target Gopperth and put him under pressure. This allows Giteau to move on to McAlister and de Villiers to Roberts – we want to put the Wasps backs to ground as quickly as possible and then compete for the breakdown. We don’t want Roberts running – this approach should see us have an extra man at first contact, which will either help us put Roberts down or give us an instant advantage at the breakdown.

Our pack will look to go through the phases and has a focus on sercuring a lot of possession to slow the game down and frustrate the home team. It wont be pretty and we will look to gain forward momentum as much as possible, and after a few phases we will get Giteau ball and ask him to kick towards the corners, keeping the ball along the floor and towards the touchline - at worst the ball puts the Wasps back three under pressure.

The breakdown is going to be much more evenly contested than last week as we recall Lapandry, who is an out and out openside. Burger is a tackling machine but is not as dangerous as either Robshaw or Brussow as we found last week. The battle will be even there but then we've got the added experience of Elsom and Parisse who swing the battle towards our favour. We will get Lapandry to go looking for turnovers and do the work on the groun and then use the power of Elsom, Parisse and Lawes to clear the rucks and win us penalties.

Backs
Our aim is to get the backline into areas it can score tries - a lot of the work will be done through the forwards and also through Jean de Villiers and Siti Siviatu taking the ball back in towards McAlister and Gopperth. Giteau will look to put the ball into Wasps 22 as much as possible and with Siviatu, Ashton, Evans and Foden chasing kicks the Wasps backthree is going to be under a lot of pressure. Our game will be about putting Wasps under pressure from the first minute and not giving them any time to dwell on the ball and force them into mistakes.

This game is all about possession and territory and getting the other team to make mistakes - if Wasps make an error then we've got a backline that will punish them. McAlister is the Wasps play maker, but other than that they are quite predictable in how they will play - Gopperth is a kicking 10 and Roberts is a dangerman if you dont make your first time tackles. Our backs will play a rush defence to put Gopperth and McAlister off their game and give them as little time to play the ball as possible - Simpson will sweep behind to bring down any Wasps players who get over the gainline and we will keep a forward out of rucks and mauls to bring Roberts down at first contact.

We will look to bring Evans into the game and use him as a player that we can launch the backthree from - he is a very intelligent player and will look to suck Roberts out of the line and feed Ashton and Foden as much as possible. There is very little pace in the Wasps backline (compared to Saints) and this is something that we have to exploit.

Simpson thrives in these conditions, and has been asked to not make as many attempted breaks this week and instead concentrate on getting the forwards going through the phases and supplying quick ball to Giteau. He's still a threat and Wasps will have to pay special attention to him around the fringes, this will give Giteau more time on the ball, as if say Wasps backrow doesnt target Simpson then he'll be through the gaps and under the posts. This extra time for Giteau will let him dictate the game and play a very intelligent kicking game.

Giteau to kick penalties and look for dropgoals - we want that scoreboard to tick over and slowly dishearten the home team. To continue this goal we will get Giteau to kick us into position and get Saints winning the territory battle. If we keep Wasps out of kicking range and playing in their own half then we have a good chance of winning.

Defence
Defensively we will look to play an aggressive game that sees us get up quickly into the tackle area and put Wasps under a lot of pressure. We want Gopperth to be forced into a kicking game, Claasens doesnt have the threat around the fringes (as say Simpson) so our backrow can concentrate on gunning down Gopperth he'll either have to kick or shovel on s+it to McAlister.

We set out how we will defend lineouts above - this will see Elsom target Gopperth, Giteau onto McAlister and then de Villiers to Roberts. Gives us an extra man to wrap up defenders and try and take out the threat of Roberts in these situations. We will always try and bring a backrow forward or Lawes into the backline in defence at rucks and mauls so we can line Roberts up and take him to ground straight away.

Our main defensive weapon will be Giteau's boot, which will look to keep pushing Wasps back into their 22 - if they kick it back then our backthree will attack when its on and the Wasps backthree dont have that same danger.


Saracens v Sale Sharks
Light rain , 15 degrees , 9mph wind


Saracens
Manager – LDCPete

01. Tendai Mtwarira09. Francois Hougaard
02. Bismarck du Plessis10. Patric Lambie
03. Jannie du Plessis
04. Rynhardt Elstadt11. Digby Ioane
05. Victor Matfield (c)12. Owen Farrell
06. Alessandro Zanni13. Jonathon Davies
07. Tom Wood14. Mark Cueto
08. Luke Narraway15. Tom Homer

16. George Chuter 17. Matt Mullan 18. Alex Corbisiero 19. Steve Borthwick 20. George Smith 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Francois Trinh-Duc 23. Tim Visser

Tactics

Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.

In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. If the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.

In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.

At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.

We will look to really attack the scrum, both in attack and defence. We will not be looking to drop the scrum at all, and Victor Matfield in his role as captain will be talking to the referee constantly to ensure that he is aware that we want to scrummage. We will look to be aggressive in this area throughout.


Game Specific Tactics

  • Target the Sale line out - we will really look to get at David Paice and put him off his throw and cause Sale to either have scrappy ball to play with, or turn the ball over to us, from where we will counter attack.

  • Force Sale to play from deep - With light rain forecast the pitch will be slippery, and we will use the boots of Lambie, Farrell, and Homer to put us in the right areas of the field. They will look to hit the right angles with kicks and fire low trajectory balls in behind the Sale wingers looking for the ball to skid on and find touch. We will then attack the Sale line out in their territory.

  • Target Danny Care - Our back row and scrum half will look to really pressurize Care around the fringes. He likes to make sniping breaks and play at pace, and we will try to slow him at every opportunity. If we can stop their main attacking threat then it will make the rest of our defensive duties much easier.

  • Build a lead and apply pressure - We have more than one kicker in our team who can rack up points and is a model of consistency off the tee. We will take every opportunity to build a lead, through penalties, and through drop goals if appropriate, thereby applying pressure to Sale to take risks despite the potentially slippery ball.


Key Points

  • Home Advantage. I don't think I need to reiterate our home record again, everyone is aware how strong we are at home.
  • Form. Players like Farrell and Homer are in great form in real life, and others like Zanni, Ioane and Davies return off of the back of very good World Cups and with their reputations enhanced.
  • Balance. Again we have great balance in our side, with an ability to play more than one way, which will enable us to adapt as the game unfolds.
  • The Pack. To win away you have to dominate the pack battle. We have a pack that contains 7 full internationals, and a number of very combative players, who are unlikely to be dominated enough for us to be beaten.
  • The Breakdown. The breakdown battle is a key one, and whilst we do not have a traditional 'fetcher', all three of our back row can and have played openside, and are willing and able to do the dirty work on the deck. Coupled with this we have mobile props and locks who will get there quickly and clear out players, along with Bismarck who is a monster at the breakdown, both in terms of clearing players and stealing the ball, which all put together means we have a good balance in this area and are not hampered by the absence of a traditional 'fetcher'.

Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jerome Schuster 09. Danny Care
02. David Paice 10. Johnny Sexton
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Romain Millo-Chluski 11. David Strettle
05. Andries Bekker 12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Adam Thomson 13. Robbie Freuen
07. Matt Todd 14. Keith Earls
08. Louis Picamoles 15. Luke Rooney

16. Lee Imolek 17. Brett Sharman 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Christian Day 20. Fulgence Quedragao 21. Shaun Perry 22. James Hook 23. Nick Abendanoon

Key Points

Playing Away
To win away from home you need to win the pack battle. We have picked a very physical but mobile tight 5 and a back row with extra expertise at the breakdown to really get on top here. We have selected two powerful, but equally strong technically, props to target the Sarries scrum especially JDP at tighthead. We have picked an athletic back 5 in the pack all of whom offer jumping options in the lineout and will look to disrupt the Saracens lineout with a new lineout leader making his debut today.

We will look to our pack to get us on top and win the lion’s share of possession with which we have trust in our back line led by Johnny Sexton(whom has got over his blip with the world cup balls straight away kicking 23 points in last weekend’s win for Leinster) to use and put the points on the board and pick us up another massive win.

Breakdown
With an out and out openside and a blindside with expertise at the breakdown (Picamoles isn’t too shabby at turning the ball over either!) we will look to seriously target the breakdown today. With our blitz defence stopping Saracens before the gain line we will look to our pack, Thomson and Todd in particular, to hit the breakdown area hard and fast looking to get their hands on turnover ball. We want to seriously disrupt the quality of the ball Houghard is receiving at scrumhalf and disrupt Sarries attacking play.

Scrum
Schuster is a fantastic scrum technician and with the help of Paice at hooker, will look to attack JDP at the scrum. He will look to get the nudge on and draw penalties from the Sarries tighthead. This makes Ducalcon’s job at tighthead of getting at the Beast easier. When truly on top here we will look to take the scrum at freekicks and penalties looking to draw the sin bin…

Lineout
We will look to use the lineout as a destructive weapon and really target the Sarries throw today. Victor Matfield, the only Sarries player with experience of calling a lineout, makes his debut today for Sarries after signing while away with the Boks over the summer. With such little time together the Sarries lineout will not have been able to develop anything complicated. We expect Matfield to keep it simple and call a lot of ball to himself. Andries Bekker will look to mark Matfield out in the line and get up in the air in front of him and get his hands on Saracens ball. Millo Chluski will jump at the front to stop any short balls. As the pressure starts to build Sexton will kick to the corners where we will really look to attack and take advantage.

Target the Sarries Midfield
Ball in hand we will look to target the Sarries midfield. We will target the outside shoulder of Owen Farrell with our pacier runners looking to exploit his lack of pace as shown by Trinder recently. (Strettle and Earls will come in from their wings to really target this.) As Davies starts to come in to cover his midfield partner we will look to ship the ball out further and make use of the space he is leaving.

Setpiece
At scrum time we will be looking to really turn the screw. Schuster and Ducalcon are both strong technical scrummagers and will look to get at their man and really disrupt Saracens putting the nudge on and providing us with a solid platform all game. At the lineout, we will look to Bekker to be our talisman. He will call the line and will have Millo Chluski, at the front, and our entire back row to support him as jumpers to mix things up. Our jumpers will look to either play the ball of the top quickly and look to our backline to move it or bring it down into a maul and make the hard yards through the pack, sucking in the Sarries forwards to leave space out wide for our backs. On Saracens ball we will look for Millo Chluski to get up in the air at the front of the line and Bekker to follow Matfield in the line and disrupt the Saracens lineout. If we really start to get on top of the lineout we will look to Sexton to kick for the corners a few times and really put the pressure on.

Breakdown
We have a very mobile and quick pack to really target the breakdown. On our own ball we will look to our forwards to get numbers to the breakdown quickly rucking past the ball and clearing out the Saracens boys looking to recycle clean fast ball. On defence, if we are first to the breakdown or the ball carrier is isolated we will look to seriously commit numbers and will look to Thomson and Todd to secure us turnover ball. At all other times we will commit lighter numbers to the breakdown but look to seriously counter ruck slowing down and messing up Saracens ball allowing our defensive line more time to set.

General Attacking Play
We will look to play a strong carrying game using our big carriers to hit the gain line offloading in or just before the tackle (when it's on) to support runners breaking the defensive line and keeping our forward momentum going. Earls will look to come in field at different times running lines of our midfield looking for the ball on the offload to get in behind the defensive line. If running the ball is not on we will look to Sexton to kick in behind the Sarries back 3 but particularly down Digby Ioane’s wing.

Danny Care will look to play around the fringes of the breakdown and make his usual snipping runs when it’s on, tying the Saracens back row to the breakdown and leaving the midfield exposed. Sexton has been instructed to play heads up rugby and if overlaps or gaps appear he will look to get the ball moving and take advantage. Rooney will look to come up from fullback from time to time and offer an extra ball carrying threat while looking to create these overlaps out wide.

Sexton will look to kick for goal when in Saracens territory and take the drop goal option when it’s available to keep the score board moving. Danny Care though will look for the quick tap when the Saracens defence is slow to organise.

General Defensive Play
In defence we will be using a blitz defence and will look to get up at pace looking to isolate the ball carrier before he gets to the gain line stopping any Saracens momentum and allowing us to hit the breakdown hard. We will look to keep Saracens on the back foot forcing the kick. Danny Care will act as a sweeper and look to cover any chips in behind the line. Our wingers as always will look to sit deeper on defence then the rest of the line ready for any kicks. Our back three have been instructed to play to their strengths and look for the counter attack, running the ball back with serious pace.






Bath Rugby v Harlequins
Heavy rain , 12 degrees , 7mph wind


Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
01. Cian Healy 09. Fourie Du Preez
02. Joe Ward10. Charlie Hodgson
03. Euan Murray
04. James Cannon11. Ugo Monye
05. Rob Simmons12. EFS
06. Sean O’Brien13. Anthony Allen
07. Steffon Armitage 14. Tom Varndell
08. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe 15. Francois Steyn
16 Jon Golding 17 Kevin Mealamu 18 Davit Kubrashvilli 19 Sam Whitelock 20 Dan Lydiate 21 Richard Wigglesworth 22 Dominic Waldouck 23 Maxime Medard

Tactics
Set Piece
We have some of the on form scrummagers in the world and will look to use the scrum as a platform. Kubrashvilli will come on at half time to maintain dominance in the scrum. Simmons will be looking for line out ball.

Breakdown
We will be looking to slow the ball down for Quins and get turnovers if possible. We will be putting bodies into the breakdown with Armitage our go to man to get the turnovers.

Control
FDP and Hodgson will look to keep the tempo going throughout the game. FDP will look for spaces in the opposition backline and space in behind the back 3 for the grubber etc. He will look to put Quins back into their own 22. Hodgson will look to keep us playing in the right areas and bring our backline into play when it's on.

Carries
Our game plan will be to have lots of big carries. Sean O’Brien will lead the carries. All our big carriers will be looking to get over the gain line making as many yards as possible. We will look to concentrate Irish defence centrally before releasing our wingers.

Kicking
Francois Steyn will be our main kicker. He will look to take on penalties in front of halfway as this is easily within his range. He will look for drop goals if there isn’t a lot on.


Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks



01. Joe Marler 09. Lee Dickson (c)
02. Matthew Rees10. Felipe Contepomi (k)
03. Brian Mujati
04. Jerome Thion11. Rob Kearney
05. Nathan Sharpe12. Riki Flutey
06. Carl Fearns13. Gonzalo Canale
07. David Seymour14. Cedric Heymans
08. Jamie Heaslip15. Rhys Priestland

16. Schalk Brits 17. Kieran Brookes 18. John Afoa 19. George Skivington 20. Phil Dowson 21. Jano Vermaak 22. Freddie Burns 23. George Lowe


Tactics


General Tactics

Visiting Bath is never easy and such conditions will require us to adopt a very specific game plan. The Heavy rain and wind has led us to picking a team picked with players who can manage our game correctly and have us playing in the right position on the field. Dickson and Contepomi will look to play the game in the Bath half and then we will look to force errors in the Bath game. We have picked a backline with 6 very capable kickers and will look to kick into the spaces or to find touch. We see this game becoming a battle of territory as much as possession and whilst we won’t look to kick aimlessly we do think that a clever kicking game will be hugely beneficial. We feel we have the kickers to turn round the Bath wingers around, who we feel are vulnerable to a good kicking game and this is an area we will look to exert pressure. We will also look to set up high bombs and cross field kicks (particularly to Rob Kearney’s wing). We will really look to not concede penalties as this will allow bath to relieve the pressure put upon them. We will look to take the points every time we get the opportunity as we expect this game to be very tight and it could be a few kicks which decide where the points end up.

Attacking Tactics

Our forwards will look to front up to the Bath pack and look to be very physical with them. In both attack and defence we are going to look to win collisions and knock Bath backwards. This won’t be easy with some of their players but with sound body position we will be able to do this. When we have possession of the ball we are looking for patient attacking play. We will look for crash ball carriers of 9, 10 and 12 and we want our players to carry in numbers and at pace. Our players will be looking to run different lines each time to keep the Bath defence guessing. Our forwards will look to play a high intensity game, and I stress that this does not mean rushed. We will be patient waiting for gaps but when we have ball in hand we will look to be aggressive, pump the legs and keeping driving after we hit contact. If offloads are on we will look for them but they will be far less frequent than they usually are in our attacking play. We will look to commit as many as we need to into rucks but with a good technique 3 or 4 should be enough each time.

Our backs, when they look to run the ball will be told to target to 2 channels. We will look to send players down Charlie Hodgson’s channel to test out his defence and we will look to isolate Anthony Allen at 13, who normally a sound defender in his usual position of 12 ,we feel could be caught out in a new role. We will look to have players attacking both his inside and outside shoulders throughout the game. Our centres will look to be cutting lines of Contepomi all game and the blind side winger will come of his wing to look for work. We will still look to create gaps out wide as we do have a good finishers playing and we will still look to score tries when they are on.

Defensive Tactics

In defence we will look to be aggressive in contact and will look to keep our tackles low. We have picked Seymour so as he can look to disrupt Bath rucks and we will look to compete at Bath rucks whenever possible. We will look to the do this legally and either by being the first man/men there to the ruck and looking to isolate the attacker or by getting a good body position and trying to ruck Bath of the ball. We will be looking to put a maximum of 4 men into Bath rucks. We will employ a blitz defence as we feel if we pressure the Bath centres then there distribution could let them down.
We will always look to have the fullback and the blindside winger deep and ready for the kick and will often have all 3 back three players playing deep and ready for the kick. We have deliberately picked 3 players very capable of playing 15 so as we are prepared for any aerial bombardment and as we are very aware of the kicking qualities of FDP, Hodgson and Steyn so our players will be very aware of this.

Set Piece

At scrum time we will look to win the hit and really pressure the Bath ball. We will look to get our own ball away quickly with either Heaslip picked or Dickson getting the ball out. At the lineout we will look to put big pressure on Rob Simmons. Sharpe will mark him in the line and Thion will mark Cannon and we will look to make them hit the back of the lineout. On our own ball we are looking to shorten the line and use Fearns as a carrying option in midfield.


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Post by Driver Sun 30 Oct 2011, 10:17 pm

Looks set for a good old slug fest on the south coast , can't imagine Carter will be too fond of that whilst ROG will feel right at home. Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 30 Oct 2011, 10:22 pm

Should be some good games this week

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 30 Oct 2011, 10:38 pm

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

In horrible wet conditions we have picked a side to play a certain way (will be explained in our tactics) in a game which will be heavily influenced by the conditions. We have picked a side which we think has the players with the attributes to excel at the set piece and breakdown and keep Bath pinned into the corners. Taking this into account we think we still have the players to play some rugby if the opportunity arises. We are pleases to give Nathan Sharpe, Dave Seymour, Jamie Heaslip, Cedric Heymans, Rob Kearney and Rhys Preistland there first starts of the season.

01. Joe Marler 09. Lee Dickson (c)
02. Matthew Rees10. Felipe Contepomi (k)
03. Brian Mujati
04. Jerome Thion11. Rob Kearney
05. Nathan Sharpe12. Riki Flutey
06. Carl Fearns13. Gonzalo Canale
07. David Seymour14. Cedric Heymans
08. Jamie Heaslip15. Rhys Priestland

16. Schalk Brits 17. Kieran Brookes 18. John Afoa 19. George Skivington 20. Phil Dowson 21. Jano Vermaak 22. Freddie Burns 23. George Lowe


Tactics


General Tactics

Visiting Bath is never easy and such conditions will require us to adopt a very specific game plan. The Heavy rain and wind has led us to picking a team picked with players who can manage our game correctly and have us playing in the right position on the field. Dickson and Contepomi will look to play the game in the Bath half and then we will look to force errors in the Bath game. We have picked a backline with 6 very capable kickers and will look to kick into the spaces or to find touch. We see this game becoming a battle of territory as much as possession and whilst we won’t look to kick aimlessly we do think that a clever kicking game will be hugely beneficial. We feel we have the kickers to turn round the Bath wingers around, who we feel are vulnerable to a good kicking game and this is an area we will look to exert pressure. We will also look to set up high bombs and cross field kicks (particularly to Rob Kearney’s wing). We will really look to not concede penalties as this will allow bath to relieve the pressure put upon them. We will look to take the points every time we get the opportunity as we expect this game to be very tight and it could be a few kicks which decide where the points end up.

Attacking Tactics

Our forwards will look to front up to the Bath pack and look to be very physical with them. In both attack and defence we are going to look to win collisions and knock Bath backwards. This won’t be easy with some of their players but with sound body position we will be able to do this. When we have possession of the ball we are looking for patient attacking play. We will look for crash ball carriers of 9, 10 and 12 and we want our players to carry in numbers and at pace. Our players will be looking to run different lines each time to keep the Bath defence guessing. Our forwards will look to play a high intensity game, and I stress that this does not mean rushed. We will be patient waiting for gaps but when we have ball in hand we will look to be aggressive, pump the legs and keeping driving after we hit contact. If offloads are on we will look for them but they will be far less frequent than they usually are in our attacking play. We will look to commit as many as we need to into rucks but with a good technique 3 or 4 should be enough each time.

Our backs, when they look to run the ball will be told to target to 2 channels. We will look to send players down Charlie Hodgson’s channel to test out his defence and we will look to isolate Anthony Allen at 13, who normally a sound defender in his usual position of 12 ,we feel could be caught out in a new role. We will look to have players attacking both his inside and outside shoulders throughout the game. Our centres will look to be cutting lines of Contepomi all game and the blind side winger will come of his wing to look for work. We will still look to create gaps out wide as we do have a good finishers playing and we will still look to score tries when they are on.

Defensive Tactics

In defence we will look to be aggressive in contact and will look to keep our tackles low. We have picked Seymour so as he can look to disrupt Bath rucks and we will look to compete at Bath rucks whenever possible. We will look to the do this legally and either by being the first man/men there to the ruck and looking to isolate the attacker or by getting a good body position and trying to ruck Bath of the ball. We will be looking to put a maximum of 4 men into Bath rucks. We will employ a blitz defence as we feel if we pressure the Bath centres then there distribution could let them down.
We will always look to have the fullback and the blindside winger deep and ready for the kick and will often have all 3 back three players playing deep and ready for the kick. We have deliberately picked 3 players very capable of playing 15 so as we are prepared for any aerial bombardment and as we are very aware of the kicking qualities of FDP, Hodgson and Steyn so our players will be very aware of this.

Set Piece

At scrum time we will look to win the hit and really pressure the Bath ball. We will look to get our own ball away quickly with either Heaslip picked or Dickson getting the ball out. At the lineout we will look to put big pressure on Rob Simmons. Sharpe will mark him in the line and Thion will mark Cannon and we will look to make them hit the back of the lineout. On our own ball we are looking to shorten the line and use Fearns as a carrying option in midfield.


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Post by Driver Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:34 pm

Exeter make 5 changes to the side which picked up a losing bonus point at quins last time out. Exeter have added some muscle to the front five with John Smit returning from a slight knock to start at hooker over Ben Kayser and Peter Short dropping to the bench to allow Juilian Pierre to partner Simon Shaw. Byron Kelleher comes into the starting 15 as Haydn Thomas drops out of the 23 to be replaced by Nick Phipps. Adam Powell is reunited with Gordan D'Arcy in the midfield with George Pisi dropping to the bench. Luke Arscott moves to the right wing with Lee Byrne coming in for Horace Aguella.

Driver had this to say on the Official Exeter website 'Last week has give us a bit of momentum because we left the stoop with a point which most teams don't do , this week however 4 is our minimum target as we host Gloucester at Sandy park and we know with the tribe behind us we can turn anybody over especially in these conditions and what is our derby match in this division. We've picked a team for the elements and we know we can win this game because this is the time of year the Chiefs start to make them selves heard and pick up wins''

Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Driver

01.Andrew Sheridan 09.Byron Kelleher
02.John Smit 10.Ronan O'Gara
03.Davit Zirkashvilli
04.Simon Shaw 11.Luke Fitzgerald
05.Juilian Pierre 12.Gordan D'Arcy
06.Lewis Moody (c) 13.Adam Powell
07.Shane Jennings 14.Luke Arscott
08.Johnnie Beattie 15.Lee Byrne

16.Neil Clark 17.Salvator Perugini18.Tom Mercy 19.Peter Short 20.Ben Skirving 21.Nick Phipps 22.George Pisi 23.Steven Myler

Tactics

- Play the percentages with a monster front 5 and using our back line to ping Gloucester in there own 22 for 80 minutes.

- We will look to scrum down at every opportunity and really attack Gloucester and out plenty of pressure on them with Smit and Zirka really scrimmaging on Joe Grey with Sheridan looking to get in at White and cause the old man problems.

- D’Arcy and Powell are both direct hard runners and will give us plenty of head way up the middle.

- Defence is all about line speed and getting on the back foot which is key for our use of Moody and Jennings. In what will be a forward orientated game the breakdown will be key and having Moody and Jennings in our back row will play the breakdown into our hands.

- we will commit as little to the ruck as possible and flood the field with numbers forcing gloucester into a forward battle/

- Lineouts will be snappy with the man straight up and down ,

- we will peel from the centre off the drive at the lineout and set a seperate maul to force the glaws pack to retreat onside to try and stop a maul going forward. (We will use this particular in the opposition 22)

- We will go back to basics and take the big runners round the legs whilst allowing the supporting defender to go for the ball.

- Kelleher to tie the back row up with snipes and short pops at the fringes to take pressure off ROG.

- ROG to drop goals and kick most penalties. Always leave they half with points

Game specific tactics

[list]Kicking game - Fitzgerald , Arscott and Byrne most notablely are all solid under the high ball and best suited to these conditions. Horsea Gear and Sinbad are both flakey under the high ball and will be taking bombs all afternoon.

Richard Kahui - Kahui spent the entire RWC on the wing , will he be able to adjust to centre again in one game.

Carter in a territory battle is no where near as much use as ROG in these types of games and conditions.

Rupert Harden will eventually replace White and will not have an easy afternoon first coming up against Andrew Sheridan and then Salvator Perugini - who won’t take prisoners at scrum time.

Tactical points of advantage

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 31 Oct 2011, 4:19 pm

Leicester Tigers have named their side to play London Irish at Welford Road this week.

Tigers have made several changes to the side that lost to Sale last week, with Gethin Jenkins, David Pocock, Dimitri Yachvili and Cory Jane returning to the side after coming back from the World Cup.

Manager LukeLovesLuka said "I’ve mixed a few things up this week. I was disappointed with the result at Sale where I thought there was a chance to take some points home. We are slowly integrating back the World Cup players, and this week I’ve brought in a few more as we ease them all back into the squad.

Guys like James (Horwill), Vincent (Clerc) and Pascal (Pape) all played most of the games for their respective countries, so have been given a little more recouperation time. But players like Gethin (Jenkins), David (Pocock), Dimitri (Yachvili) and Cory (Jane) had fantastic tournaments, didn't play all the games and are all desperate to get back out onto the field as soon as possible.

London Irish are a strong side, who have had an indifferent opening to the season, and they will be coming to Welford Road looking to cause an upset. We are always confident at home, but we will have to be at our best this week. It should be a great game."


Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Gethin Jenkins09. Dimitri Yachvili (k)
02. Sebastian Bruno10. Jonny Wilkinson
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Nathan Hines11. Topsy Ojo
05. Alex Brown12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Tom Croft13. Brian O'Driscoll (c)
07. David Pocock14. Cory Jane
08. Ernst Joubert15. Isa Nacewa
16. Wyatt Crockett 17. Lee Mears 18. Jonny Harris 19. Chris Jack 20. Thomas Waldrom 21. Micky Young 22. Brock James 23. Rob Miller

Tactics

GENERAL:

- We are looking to get our backs into the game as much as possible by attacking the lineout and the breakdown. We will look to get our back three on the ball causing Irish problems defensively. We will be physical and relentless up front and pacey and clinical in attack.

- Defensively we will look to blitz, with Yachvili sweeping behind the defensive line to deal with any short kicks.

- Early on Yachvili to kick all penalites within range, but we won't necessarily go for the 3 points as the game progresses. BOD to make the call dependant on the success of the lineout.

- Get after JMH and Pienaar as much as we can. Irish have one HB as cover on the bench, and a few big hits could leave them short of options.

- Look to use our bench to win the game in the last 30 mins. Waldrom to come on at 50 mins to impact the game with his carrying, along with Crockett. Jack to strengthen our pack and set piece, Young to inject pace around the fringes and Brock James to come on if we need a spark in the back line.

FORWARDS:

- Attack the lineout as a weapon using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and Wilkinson. A.Brown to call the lineout - Hines and Croft alternating at the front, Brown in the middle and Joubert at the rear. We will relentlessly target Buckland's throws.

- At the scrum Bruno to look to give Buckland a schooling. Jenkins and Johnston picked to provide stability up against Castro and Tonga. Tonga in particular is used to playing props shorter and lighter and using his power to bulldoze through them, but Johnston is the same height and actually heavier than him. With Joubert marshalling the base, we will look to use attacking scrums as a platform to get us going forward at every opportunity.

- Look to Joubert, Pocock, Croft, Jenkins, Hines and Johnston to give us real go-forward with their carrying. With the ball in hand we want to attack together in groups so as not to become isolated, and if it is on we will look to offload in or just before the tackle. All players are to act as support runners when they can.

- Pocock is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Irish. Our other forwards will look to ruck past the ball and clear out Irish players enabling us to effect turnovers. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.

BACKS:

- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili pulling the strings. We will look to go through the phases and dominate possession, move Irish around with our half back's tactical kicking, and unleash our pacey back three as and when we can.

- If the game is tight and the ball isn't coming quickly, Wilkinson will look to drop into the pocket and keep the scoreboard ticking over with drop goals.

- Twelvetrees can act as our second receiver, and can hit the gain line hard to make yards. BOD to play his natural game, be the leader in our midfield, and look to get our back three into the game.

- Our back three are encouraged to do what comes naturally to all of them - counter attacking and running the ball back. The weather is good for running rugby, and we hope to see some great breaks. All have good boots to rely on if it isn't on or they are isolated, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.


KEY POINTS:

- Home Advantage - Unbeaten at home since the start of last season. Welford Road is once again the fortress that we all know.

- Attack the lineout as a weapon using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and Wilkinson.

- Target the breakdown - Pocock is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Irish.

- If the game is tight, Wilkinson will look to drop into the pocket and keep the scoreboard ticking over with drop goals.

- Likes of Waldrom, Crockett, Jack and B.James to come on. Powerful front row that is both solid in the set-piece and with ball carrying in Crockett and Mears. Jack to strengthen our pack and set piece, and Waldrom to provide huge carrying impact. Young to inject pace around the fringes, B.James if we need a spark, and Miller who is in dazzling form.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 01 Nov 2011, 1:39 pm

Newcastle Falcons welcome Worcester to fortress Kingston Park this week for what promises to be a cracking affair in slippery conditions. We welcome back a number of World Cup players back into the side and will be looking to cement our position at the top of the table.

Barcella & Read come into the pack to increase carrying options in the tight and quality in the set piece. O'Connor, Conrad Smith and Ashely-Cooper come into the backline to give us a bit of spark and solid defence/kicking in the conditions. Toby Flood continues his steady transition into the side with another bench start whilst Drew Mitchell will hope to get on the pitch for his debut in Falcons colours.

Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly

01. Fabien Barcella09. Ben Youngs
02. Marius Tincu10. Nick Evans
03. Paul Doran-Jones
04. Dean Schofield 11. James O’Connor
05. Paul O’Connell(c)12. Brad Barritt
06. Chris Robshaw13. Conrad Smith
07. Heinrich Brussow14. Tommy Bowe
08. Kieran Read15. Adam Ashley-Cooper

16. Tom Lindsay 17. Craig Mitchell 18. Rodrigo Roncero 19. Geoff Parling 20. Chris York 21. Jonny Arr 22. Toby Flood 23. Drew Mitchell

Tactics

General play - It's all about a high tempo and controlling the ball.. If 3 point is on we'll look to take it and until we have a clear lead. Evans will pull the strings at 10 and keep us playing in the right areas of the pitch, controlling the tempo and looking for gaps in the opposition backline. In the greasy conditions we’ll look to go through the phases with big carries whilst also using our strong kicking options in the halfbacks and back 3 if the game ends up in a kicking contest.

Forwards

Set Piece

We'll be looking to use the set piece as a platform to set up attacks. Our tactics during each game may change if we spot a weakness in the oppposition set piece during the 80mins. This is the role of the team captain.

Scrum - We'll be looking to set a platform and use the scrum to get fast ball to out 9/10 axis. PDJ and Barcella are excellent technical scrummagers who will give us a sound foundation and look to get at their opposite numbers from the off. If a weakness is seen we’ll look to keep the push on and drive the opposition back, taking scrum options at pens if totally on top. If not we’ll be using the scrum as restart and getting the ball in and out so we can attack the opposition 9/10 axis. We think we may get an edge in this week with PDJ & Tincu looking to get at Flatman from the off.

Lineout

With the greasy conditions, securing lineout ball will be key. POC will look to lead the line and use Schofield as banker ball from the front and Read & Robshaw as a strong options at the middle and back. We shall look to get target opposition ball throughout the game.

Target Breakdown & Rucks

We'll look to commit to rucks to secure our own ball whilst targetting the opposition when it's on. Brussow will look to slow opposion ball down whilst looking for the turnover. We’ll be wary of over stepping the mark in our own half with Steyn’s boot.

ISOLATED RUNNERS –Our pack will look to get the contact area asap and join the tackle thus making a maul. With us in control of the tackle area or ruck as it is now, we’ll look to keep the runner up until the ref awards a scrum in out advantage. This is a system we used to success numerous times last season and is especially handy in the damp conditions as forwards look to take the ball up more.

Huge carrying

We have huge carrying options in the pack and we'll look to use them throughout the game to wear the opposition down and give us a point of attack. We'll look to mix this up with Read coming off the scrum and Barcella, Robshaw, Tincu, POC, Schofield giving us numerous options in tight and loose. We’ll look to vary the angles of attack with Evans using the reverse ball now and again with Read and Robshaw coming in. The 9/10 axis will hit early on and if successful will be used to draw the opposition defence in..

Backs

Halfbacks

With a solid platform Youngs will look to snipe around and find gaps in the opposion defense, especially at 2/3rd phase attacks when defenses start to fray. Youngs gives us a massive threat and will look to mix his game up throughgout the game. Evans will play his natural game and come into the line flat. He’ll look to mix the play up and look to hit behind the back 3 if on. Youngs will sweep up behind a blitz defense with Barritt leading the line. Youngs will look to deploy the box kick and leave it hanging to test the opposition with JOC and Bowe providing quality chase.

Backline balance

We have numerous running options and the option to mix things up in the backline. Barritt gives Evans go to ball if needed and we'll look to get JOC in as second receiver to give us a different focal point. AAC will look to come off the shoulder of attacks and inject pace into the midfield. Bowe will look to run angles off the backline and finish off moves in opposition 22. The crossfield kick will be used when on with Bowe and AAC the main targets against Williams. Barritt will look to target Vesty/Steyn with contact and free up space in this channel.

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Points to target against opposition

After studying the opposition over a number of weeks we’ll be looking to specifically target these areas:

SCRUM – We’ll look to target the opposition scrum and PDJ & Tincu will look to get at Flatman from the off
LINEOUT – POC will look to target the Worcester lineout and in particular Myall
BREAKDOWN – With Brussow & Robshaw targeting the breakdown we’ll look to get the upper hand here throughout the game
CONDITIONS - We'll look to play the conditions and have numerous kicking options in the backline if needed
HABANA - Look to target his positioning due to lack of game time with new team
ROLLING MAUL - With a secure lineout we'll look to utalise the rolling maul to good effect and draw the Worcester pack in
CROSS FIELD KICK - We've put Bowe on Williams to utalise this tactic with Bowe's height advantage
KICKING GAME - We have numerous running options in the back 3, with light showers we'll look to take as much ball up as possible and play it as we see it. JOC, Bowe and AAC give us a devestating counter attacking outfit that will look to target the Worcester midfield

We feel we are set up well for this game with key players in the scrum, lineout and breakdown. We'll look to use bench throughout second to enhance our set piece dominance.


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London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Soane Tonga'uhia09. Ruan Pienaar
02. James Buckland 10. Juan Martin Hernandez
03. Martin Castrogiovanni
04. Mouritz Botha11. Sailosi Tagicakibau
05. Nick Kennedy 12. Sireli Naqalevuki
06. George Stowers13. Jacques Fourie
07. Hendrie Fourie 14. Bjorn Basson
08. Pierre Spies15. Delon Armitage

16. Duncan Bell 17. Neil Briggs 18. WP Nel 19. Matt Garvey 20. Joe Worsley 21. Julien Dupuy 22. Matthew Tait 23. Sonny Bill Williams

London Irish welcome back Samoan's George Stowers and Sailosi Tagicakibau to the starting line up, whilst top try scorer Bjorn Basson returns in place of J.P Pieterson. Mouritz Botha is picked ahead of Dean Mumm in the 2nd row and Sireli Naqalevuki deservedly keeps his place at inside centre, with Sonny Bill Williams having to settle for a place on the bench. Juan Martin Hernandez makes his second start of the season at fly half, with Ruan Pienaar reverting to his usual position of scrum half.

Tactics

We want to get as much ball to our backs as possible as we feel we have the pace and power to really hurt the Tigers. We may be away from home, but we fear no-one and have a backline full of dangerous runners that can hurt any defence.

Upfront we have selected a powerful set of forwards to dominate in the loose as well as the setpiece.

We will ruthlessly target the setpiece and can see a lot of joy here. Tonga'uhia and Castro will go after their opponents at scrum time and look to win as many as penalties as possible for JMH to kick. Castro will really look to pressure Jenkins and drive him back.

At lineout time, Kennedy will be our main go to man, with Botha, Spies and Stowers also providing options. Kennedy will disrupt as much opposition ball as possible on Bruno's throw.

Both scrum and lineout will be used as platforms to attack off. We want to get as much ball as possible to the backs and get Naqa and Fourie involved as much as possible.

In the loose, we will look to overpower the Tigers. We feel they lack some grunt and ball carrying power, and we have picked three brutes in the backrow to over power them. Stowers, Botha, Tonga, Castro and Spies will hit the rucks hard and look to dominate this area and not let Pocock have free reign. We will get Fourie in at the breakdowns to secure quick ball and legally slow down any opposition ball. We will look for our big ball carriers to make the hard yards around the fringes and suck in Tigers defence before spreading the ball to the backs to exploit gaps.

Wilko has struggled to get a backline going recently and we will play a rush defence to get up in the faces of the Tigers and disrupt their momentum.

Naqalevuki will look to give 12T a schooling and use his power and pace to run at him and test his defence. We will have support runners like Fourie or Tagicakibau off him to collect offloads and create overlaps.

We will not kick aimless ball away to the Tigers back 3, but look to Delon and Tagi to run the ball back as both are strong runners who make a lot of metres. We will ensure we dont give away penalties here and get sufficient players in at the breakdown to secure our own ball.

Sonny Bill to come on at 55 mins to create more problems for the Tigers defence. JMH to kick all pens for goal.

To sum up, we want to dominate upfront where we feel we have superior power in the loose, and a stronger set piece, to dominate ball and territory and allow our backs to run riot.

Good luck Luke.


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Post by prop_lyd Tue 01 Nov 2011, 7:08 pm

01. David Flatman09. Eion Reddan
02. Richardt Strauss 10. Morne Steyn (k)
03. Sylvain Marconnet
04. Jim Hamilton11. Shane Williams
05. Kearnen Myall 12. Sam Vesty
06. Ryan Jones13. Jon Clarke
07. Craig Newby (c) 14. Bryan Habana
08. Ben Morgan15. Chris Paterson

16. Chris Fortey 17. Chris Budgen 18. BJ Botha 19. Danie Russouw 20. Scott Higginbotham 21. Jordi Pasqualin 22. Nils Mordt 23. Rob Cook


Tactics

Forwards
We have picked a pack that can hold their own in the scrums and the breakdown. Safe rugby is the aim of the day with the forwards being told to just secure good ball for the backs to pin Newcastle back. Strauss can act as a 4th backrow player looking to secure ball and also slow up the Falcons efforts. A rejuvenated Jones teams with Newby and both are good at slowing ball down and Morgan will look to support the Steyn-Vesty axis. In the lineouts Myall will contest all of theirs and the majority of our ball will be to take it down and drive it in a maul before releasing the backs.

Backs
We have 3 major kickers in our backs with Steyn, Vesty and Paterson and our aim is to play negative rugby and simply pin Newcastle back in their own half with long kicks which will be aimed to go into touch to prevent their back 3 getting quick ball. Habana and Williams will chase all kicks to prevent the quick throw. We have pinned Williams with Bowe as we know he can stop the big boys in their tracks and leave Habana the pace to burn. The ball won't go out to the backs much but if it is both wingers have the pace to pin their ears back and the ball should hold up for any grubber kicks. Reddan will look to do his cutomary snipe runs if he sees a good enough gap and has at least 2 forwards nearby to secure the ball.

Defence
We will go hard and blitz the defence to prevent any ball being moved quickly. Reddan and Paterson will cover any kicks and look to pin them back if kicks are collected. Newby and Jones will look to take it in turns in being the 2nd man to the ruck to get over the ball and either slow it down or steal it.

Overall
*We don't mind slow ball,
*Pin them back with kicks for touch,
*Negative rugby looking to slow ball down and simply take points where possible,
*Steyn to kick for goal,
*Vesty to be the playmaker,
*Look to make their ball slow and disrupt as much in open play and breakdown,
*Russouw and Higs to come on on the hour to cause damage at the breakdown and provide runners,
*Wingers to pin their ears back,
*We will play ugly and win ugly,
*Kingston Park may be a so called 'fortress' but look at the attendance figures........

All the best Pooly cider


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Post by CJB Tue 01 Nov 2011, 10:11 pm

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01. Cian Healy 09. Fourie Du Preez
02. Joe Ward10. Charlie Hodgson
03. Euan Murray
04. James Cannon11. Ugo Monye
05. Rob Simmons12. EFS
06. Sean O’Brien13. Anthony Allen
07. Steffon Armitage 14. Tom Varndell
08. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe 15. Francois Steyn
16 Jon Golding 17 Kevin Mealamu 18 Davit Kubrashvilli 19 Sam Whitelock 20 Dan Lydiate 21 Richard Wigglesworth 22 Dominic Waldouck 23 Maxime Medard

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 02 Nov 2011, 10:16 am

Tactics updated.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:15 pm

Tactics updated. may add some key points when I get the chance.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:41 pm

Tactics updated. COME ON IRISH!

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Wed 02 Nov 2011, 6:02 pm

London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry

01. Perry Freshwater 09. Michael Claassens
02. Steve Thompson 10. Jimmy Gopperth
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Mark Chisholm 11. Lachie Turner
05. Marco Wentzel (c) 12. Luke McAlister
06. James Haskell 13. Jamie Roberts
07. Jacques Burger 14. Tom Williams
08. Roger Wilson 15. Mike Brown

16. Andy Titterell 17. Charlie Beech 18. CJ Van Der Linde 19. Steve Mafi 20. Tom Johnson 21. Mike Blair 22. Rory Clegg 23. Noah Cato

Tactics
After winning our last four games in all competitions we are feeling very high on confidence and feel that we go into this clash with Northampton Saints with plenty of momentum. We have picked a gritty, powerful and physical forward pack which will work very hard at rucks and winning us set piece ball at scrum time and lineout. We feel that if we can assert ourselves physically and win the forward battle, providing our backs with a solid platform we will be able to come have a good chance of claiming a hard fought victory. We have plenty of players who are bang in form and we are unbeaten at home which is a big positive.

Our game plan is based around using the power we have in our team to set out a platform for our backs to be able to attack from. We will look to use the set piece as a platform for attacks. Our front row is a very good scrummaging unit and we will hopefully be able to build attacks from there and earn some penalties for Gopperth to make use of. Our pack will be physical and relentless up front, we will play with controlled aggression. We will look to our forwards to get us onto the front foot by attacking in groups with some grunt and powerful carrying, getting us over the gain line. We will start as we mean to go on with a high intensity, hitting the collision area hard and driving our players over the gain line. We will look to recycle the ball efficiently within the pack taking the ball through plenty of phases to wear the Saints down.

We have two excellent kicking options in Gopperth and McAlister we will look to kick in behind the Northampton Saints wingers and keep them pinned back where we will look to isolate and pressurize them into making mistakes in their own half. We will look to hit the rucks hard and compete when we can, any turnovers we do make we will look to get the ball out wide and attack the space available. We will look to make a nuisance of ourselves at the breakdown and spoil the quality of the Saints ball with good counter rucking. At rucks on our own ball we will look to secure the ball by coming from low to high to present Claassens with clean, quick ball and get our forwards running onto the ball at different angles to pierce the Saints defence.

In the forwards we will look to drive our carriers over the gain line and really look to win the collisions. We have plenty of dynamic carriers including the explosive and in form James Haskell. Gopperth will look to bring in our strike runners in McAlister and Roberts. If it is on we will look to offload the ball to the supporting players and keep Saints working off the ball in defence. We will look for the in form Roberts to run plenty of good lines and stay strong in the contact area and either offload if he wins the collision, or the support players will keep driving him on, building up momentum and speed in our attacks. So long as our ball carriers have the support, we will look to pierce gaps in the Saints defensive line and offload to supporting players, keeping the ball alive as much as possible.

With the ball in hand we will look to our strike runners to attack gaps and half gaps in their defence targeting the outside shoulder of the Saints players and will look to attack the fly half channel in the Saints defence and put Giteau off his game, hopefully opening them up. When possible we will look to get our offloading game going to alternate the point of attack and keep the Saints working off the ball in defence and pierce the gaps we have created. With quick ball and offloading we will look to create and expose mismatches in the midfield. Our mobile and dynamic back row will look to support our ball carriers, taking offloads and powerfully driving forward. We will ensure our ball carriers have plenty of support in each phase, so they we can continue to play an offloading game. Any loose kicks our back three get will be returned with interest. We have plenty of pace in our back three and will look to use them when we can.

At lineouts we will look to exert as much pressure as possible on the Saints throws with Wentzel looking to steal some opposition throws. On our own throw we will use Wentzel as our main go to man but will mix it up by using Chisholm, Haskell and Wilson. From there we will look to slowly sap the energy out of the Saints by using the rolling maul. We will look to suck in as many Saints defenders to open up spaces elsewhere for us to attack. We’ll look to really target the set piece and create a platform, we feel that we can gain an advantage here, if we get a nudge on we will look to keep the Saints going backwards. Our back row will look to really get in Giteau’s face and put him off of his game. We will ensure our discipline is exemplary. We will play hard rugby but ensure we play by the rules, discipline will be key. We feel that if our forwards can get us onto the front foot we have the half backs who will keep their cool and manage our game.

We will look to attack in numbers, we have plenty of powerful and dynamic carriers in our pack who will get us over the gain line and set us out a solid platform to build from. We have plenty of grit in our team and feel that if we can push Northampton onto the back foot by winning the forward battle we will be able to unsettle them. We want to continue our winning ways and feel that if we can play at a high tempo and push the Saints onto the back foot we will be able to do this. Our gritty forwards will set the tone with huge carrying and from there we will look to get our offloading game going and bring our strike runners into the game. We have plenty of impact to call upon from the bench to continue our high levels of intensity and power.


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Post by prop_lyd Wed 02 Nov 2011, 6:54 pm

Should get tactics done after dinner
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Nov 2011, 7:38 pm

Saracens make 5 changes to the starting line up for this weeks visit of Sale Sharks to Vicarage Road. Up front Victor Matfield, Alessandro Zanni and Luke Narraway replace Steve Borthwick, George Smith and Joe van Niekerk, with returning World Cup stars Digby Ioane and Jonathon Davies replacing Tim Visser and Nevin Spence on the bench.

Head coach Ozzy3213 had this to say
"It's good to welcome a couple more players back in to the side from World Cup duty this week, and we've also freshened up a bit in the pack again and given rests to Steve (Borthwick), George (Smith) and Joe (van Niekerk) who have carried us through a little bit while we have had players away. It's good to have Digby (Ioane) and Foxy (Jonathon Davies) back as they both performed well in New Zealand and having a bit of a break are eager to get back playing and trying to help us to win things. Hopefully next week we can re introduce a couple more of our World Cup players who perhaps had heavier workloads and need a bit more of a break, and in any case we wouldn't want to throwe them all back in in one go, as that could disrupt the continuity that we have built up in the team over the open couple of months of the season."

Saracens
Manager – LDCPete

01. Tendai Mtwarira09. Francois Hougaard
02. Bismarck du Plessis10. Patric Lambie
03. Jannie du Plessis
04. Rynhardt Elstadt11. Digby Ioane
05. Victor Matfield (c)12. Owen Farrell
06. Alessandro Zanni13. Jonathon Davies
07. Tom Wood14. Mark Cueto
08. Luke Narraway15. Tom Homer

16. George Chuter 17. Matt Mullan 18. Alex Corbisiero 19. Steve Borthwick 20. George Smith 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Francois Trinh-Duc 23. Tim Visser

Tactics

Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.

In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. If the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.

In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.

At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.

We will look to really attack the scrum, both in attack and defence. We will not be looking to drop the scrum at all, and Victor Matfield in his role as captain will be talking to the referee constantly to ensure that he is aware that we want to scrummage. We will look to be aggressive in this area throughout.


Game Specific Tactics

  • Target the Sale line out - we will really look to get at David Paice and put him off his throw and cause Sale to either have scrappy ball to play with, or turn the ball over to us, from where we will counter attack.

  • Force Sale to play from deep - With light rain forecast the pitch will be slippery, and we will use the boots of Lambie, Farrell, and Homer to put us in the right areas of the field. They will look to hit the right angles with kicks and fire low trajectory balls in behind the Sale wingers looking for the ball to skid on and find touch. We will then attack the Sale line out in their territory.

  • Target Danny Care - Our back row and scrum half will look to really pressurize Care around the fringes. He likes to make sniping breaks and play at pace, and we will try to slow him at every opportunity. If we can stop their main attacking threat then it will make the rest of our defensive duties much easier.

  • Build a lead and apply pressure - We have more than one kicker in our team who can rack up points and is a model of consistency off the tee. We will take every opportunity to build a lead, through penalties, and through drop goals if appropriate, thereby applying pressure to Sale to take risks despite the potentially slippery ball.


Key Points

  • Home Advantage. I don't think I need to reiterate our home record again, everyone is aware how strong we are at home.
  • Form. Players like Farrell and Homer are in great form in real life, and others like Zanni, Ioane and Davies return off of the back of very good World Cups and with their reputations enhanced.
  • Balance. Again we have great balance in our side, with an ability to play more than one way, which will enable us to adapt as the game unfolds.
  • The Pack. To win away you have to dominate the pack battle. We have a pack that contains 7 full internationals, and a number of very combative players, who are unlikely to be dominated enough for us to be beaten.


Best of luck SJE, should be a cracker thumbsup


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Post by prop_lyd Wed 02 Nov 2011, 9:19 pm

Tactics done Pooly.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 02 Nov 2011, 9:30 pm

"*Kingston Park may be a so called 'fortress' but look at the attendance figures........"

Lol....I'm sure it would be a bit higher if we had McCaw, JOC, Evans etc instead of Hogg, Eves and Sheriff!

Get mine in soon mate, in London tomorrow

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 02 Nov 2011, 9:35 pm

Hey I had to have one dig!! Plus I doubt it....most of the northerners prefer league, fighting or wendyball Wink
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Post by Driver Wed 02 Nov 2011, 9:36 pm

2/3s of that statement are true Prop lol
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 02 Nov 2011, 9:38 pm

No league up here mate, union rules

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 02 Nov 2011, 9:38 pm

Oh yeah bit too high altitude for the league boyos!!
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Post by Driver Wed 02 Nov 2011, 10:01 pm

Tactics have been updated.

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Wed 02 Nov 2011, 10:09 pm

Will get my tactics in tomorrow

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Manager – ‘Mat

01. Steenkamp 09. Will Genia
02. Gray 10. Dan Cartetr
03. Julian White
04. Bakkies 11. JSD
05. Tom Palmer (c) 12. Hape
06. Steven Ferris13. Richard Kahui
07. Schalk Burger 14. Gear
08. Alberts 15. Israel Dagg

16. Nick Wood17. Adriaan Strauss 18. Rupert Harden 19. Richie Gray 20. Andy Saull 21. Dave Lewis 22. Berrick barnes 23. May

Tactics


Gloucester travel to Exeter Buoyed after beating an exceptionally strong SArries side. It is going to be wet and miserable at Sandy Park and Gloucester have the team to win and win well.

SCRUM

Obviously in conditions like this you need a rock solid set piece and ball carriers galore to keep the ball and work your way into conditions to allow the half backs to control the game and dictate play.

Glaws have gone with a monster line up that is also mobile.

in the SCrums we will be looking to win our own ball clean and get a wheel on to allow either Alberts to pick up and go or for Genia to get the ball away quickly to carter to kick for territory or launch runners at the gainline.

On Exeter ball we will be looking to disrupt their put in and drive them back either creating bad ball for them or taking against the head. WE have 2 huge scrummagers in Steenkamp and White. and a huge powerful back 5 that will not let up the pressure. White is on to play 40-50 minutes and to really hurt the Sheridan who has played a couple of games in a year and who must be struggling a little.

Lineout

As ever we are chock full of Jumpers and will be looking to secure our own ball and drive to suck in leicester and tire them before launching runners off the back of the Maul. in Conditions like these there will be a lot of front ball and bakkies is the king of this. We will then look to hit off the top a bit more as the game progresses and put big runners like Kahui and Hape over the gain line into people like Powell.

On their ball we will try and exploit their lack of jumpers and put pressure on the ball. if they win it they win scrappy ball. we will look to flood through and pressure Kelleher and in turn ROg.

Forwards General

We will be looking to keep the ball and force Exeter to commit men to tackling and into the rucks and mauls. The aim is to win the collisions and territory and dictate our game on to them. It will be forward dominated due to the rain and we feel we have a lot more up front. We are packed with ball carriers in Steenkamp, Gray, BAkkies, palmer, Ferris, Alberts and Burger. this will allow us to keep the ball and wear out the exeter pack.

We feel exeter lack the ball carriers we do and will be easier to defend against. there only carrier in the backrow is beattie who has been struggling for a long time. We aim to smash every maul and actually send numbers into rucks to counter ruck and give them poor quality ball. Everything is slower in the wet and we aim to grind them down and exploit their lack of dynamic carriers in the pack. we will keep ball all day and then release only good ball to the backs when they want it.

We are also aiming to use our bench. Strauss, Wood, Grey, harden will all come on and are in excellent form in real life. bench options are strongly in glaws favour.

BACKS

The backs will be looking to use what ball they get in a constructive way.

We have the 2 best half backs in world rugby and they will dictate tempo and when the ball is used. Carter is very used to the Wet as he plays for Canterbury where it is bloody miserable half the year and will be looking to dominate Ogara in both kicking and obviously in running.

first half we will be playing a territry based game with forwards keeping the ball and then releasing the ball allowing Carter to either kick for touch, high ball or push in behind them for our back 3 to chase. in our 22 Dagg will often receive the ball as he demonstrated in the WC he has one of the biggest clearance kicks in world rugby and will be used.

the other options carter will look to use will be to hit Hape and Kahui to target powell or to tie in Darcy and to recycle ball to attack again.

As we start to get in the ascendency we will look to use Gear coming up through channels and also look to move it wide if its on. you do not have a back 3 like JSD, Gear and Dagg and not try and use it.

We will look to employ the cross kick if on with Gear having a physical mismatch against either fitz or Arscot
Defence

We will use Genia to sweep but will also be looking to blitz when necessary. Kelleher is getting a bit long in the tooth and if we can disrupt ball it makes sense to blitz and pressure O'gara who is not a natural at moving the ball.

Must also take issue with Gear and JSD being flakey under the high ball. JSD in particular is immense under the high ball and i am sure prop will also say you never see him drop a high ball. if he was flakey then AP teams would target him on this. They dont which shows you how good he is under it,

Key Points

1 more form players throughout the team
2 more ball carriers all over the park and this is what helps keep ball in the rain
3 World class half backs that are the best in the world at dictating a game and can play any style.
4 Dynamic bench capable of blowing away the game. Also have the option of Barnes to come on add to the kicking options from centre to dominate territory game.

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Post by Driver Thu 03 Nov 2011, 3:25 pm

in the SCrums we will be looking to win our own ball clean and get a wheel

You fricken kidding me Matt? Zirka and Sheridan are two of the best scrummagers in Europe and will have a field day if you think Guthro is going do some damage. He's technique is all over the shop.

in our 22 Dagg will often receive the ball as he demonstrated in the WC he has one of the biggest clearance kicks in world rugby and will be used.

Have you read our tactics? We're aiming to put the ball in the corners and behind the wing.

Arscott and Fitzy are both 6ft 2 and won't struggle against Horsea Gear.

that is also mobile. - Juilian White? Mobile? he hasn't moved from the scrums last week has he?
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Post by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2011, 3:47 pm

driver i am not getting in to criticising teams and have not made any criticisms of your tactics.

Guthro seen by many as the best loosehead in the world and who has been signed by toulouse who value the scrum. also voted in team of world cup at 1 and dominated every tight head he went up against.
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16017_7264663,00.html

Sheridan has barely played in a year and been offered an insurance pay out to quit which is not the sign of someone in rude health

,http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_7265133,00.html


In our 22 Dagg will receive the ball from genia as we will be attacking surely thats allowed and he can kick or are there rules i am unaware of. he is another kicking option and will help clear the lines. Also as you will have seen in the world cup even in the tightest space he can deliver huge touchfinders although i was only talking about clearing the ball from our 22 on our ball.

i was on about our ball and for clearing lines if you get in our half.

Height is not everything for cross kick. look at the size difference and athleticism.

My pack is extremely mobile Bar White who has never been mobile but is one of the worlds great scrummagers. Zirka aint that mobile anyhow. most tightheads in rugby are not. if they can scrummage then thats all that matters.

Also scrummagin is not just about front row. Back 5 plays a huge role and in Alberts, Ferris, Burger, palmer, bakkies there will be a huge shove behind two massive scrummaging props.


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Post by Driver Thu 03 Nov 2011, 4:00 pm

Last time Steenkamp played in the wet he got a he got dragged off just after half time against Leicester for South Africa

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/8347892.stm

He is an awful scrummager , planet rugby is a poor site matt and put him in there because he is the bulls lh and scored a few tries.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 03 Nov 2011, 4:43 pm

Northampton Saints Team:

Manager – dammit chris
01. Matt Stevens 09. Joe Simpson
02. Dylan Hartley10. Matt Giteau(k)
03. Carl Hayman
04. Courtney Lawes11. Siti Siviatu
05. Patricio Albacete12. Jean de Villiers
06. Rocky Elsom13. Max Evans
07. Alexandre Lapandry 14. Chris Ashton
08. Sergio Parisse(c) 15. Ben Foden

16. Rob Webber 17. Zak Taulafo 18. Bob Baker 19. Dave Attwood 20. Simon Taylor 21. Liam Messam 22.Leigh Halfpenny 23. Manu Tuilagi

Tactics
We've picked a team that is perfect for the conditions, it is light rain, which will allow us to still throw the ball around in the backline and score tries, but it is essential that we have a pack that will compete with Wasps and get our backline the ball. We've gone for a 6-2 split on the bench so we can put a lot of pressure on Wasps throughout the 80 minutes. We believe that if we can keep the scoreboard close with Wasps at the 60 minute mark our subs bench will win the game and our advantage is that we have far more match winners in the backline to score a try that could be vital in a close game.

Key points
* This game is all about territory and possession – we will kick the ball deep and play the game in Wasps’ half. Putting pressure on them when we are in their 22 and forcing mistakes, penalties and disrupting the games flow. If we play the game in Wasps half we remove Gopperth’s kicking threat and put a lot of pressure on McAlister to get his team going forward.
* Strong set piece, more than capable of holding its own and as subs come into play we've got 6 forwards to bring on, 3 full internationals and two Saxons - will make our pack stronger as the game players out.
* We bring in two fresh players to our backrow, this is an area that we will be looking to target and have opted for an out and out 7 this week in Lapandry to target the breakdown. We can also bring Messam into the mix as an impact sub.
* We will look to put Wasps under a lot of pressure throughout the 80minutes, constantly hassling, and trying to force mistakes. Special attention will be on Gopperth who is largely a kicking fly half and we will ensure that our backrow gives him a few big hits early on. There is a big gulf in class between Gopperth and Giteau, so Saints need to make the most of this.
* We've learnt our lessons from last week and have brought Max Evans in at 13 to give Giteau more support in controlling a game - he is a better reader of the game than Tuilagi and gives us a good kicking option out wide.
* We are going to be more adventurous than Wasps, and will still go out looking to give our back three ball and take advantage in the difference between the back threes.

Forwards – Set Piece & Breakdown
We have picked a team that will look to take Wasps on at the set piece and have picked a poweful scrummaging unit to take them on up front. Albacete and Lawes add a lot of power to the scrum and if any of the pack is tiring or we see that Wasps are struggling we will turn the screw by freshening up with Webber, Taulafo, Attwood, Taylor and Messam.

We've reduced our lineout options this week, with Lawes, Albacete and Parisse our jumpers, and will look to keep the calls simple in the first half to just ensure we obtain the ball and start going through the phases. We will look to put Wentzle under pressure and force Thompson's throwing into mistakes, this is an area we feel we have the advantage in because although Hartley didn’t have the best WC, his lineout throwing was incredibly accurate.

Defensively at the lineout we are we will get Simpson to stand in the 5 metre channel (as a hooker would do) – and then bring Hartley into the lineout itself and move Elsom into the midfield to target Gopperth and put him under pressure. This allows Giteau to move on to McAlister and de Villiers to Roberts – we want to put the Wasps backs to ground as quickly as possible and then compete for the breakdown. We don’t want Roberts running – this approach should see us have an extra man at first contact, which will either help us put Roberts down or give us an instant advantage at the breakdown.

Our pack will look to go through the phases and has a focus on sercuring a lot of possession to slow the game down and frustrate the home team. It wont be pretty and we will look to gain forward momentum as much as possible, and after a few phases we will get Giteau ball and ask him to kick towards the corners, keeping the ball along the floor and towards the touchline - at worst the ball puts the Wasps back three under pressure.

The breakdown is going to be much more evenly contested than last week as we recall Lapandry, who is an out and out openside. Burger is a tackling machine but is not as dangerous as either Robshaw or Brussow as we found last week. The battle will be even there but then we've got the added experience of Elsom and Parisse who swing the battle towards our favour. We will get Lapandry to go looking for turnovers and do the work on the groun and then use the power of Elsom, Parisse and Lawes to clear the rucks and win us penalties.

Backs
Our aim is to get the backline into areas it can score tries - a lot of the work will be done through the forwards and also through Jean de Villiers and Siti Siviatu taking the ball back in towards McAlister and Gopperth. Giteau will look to put the ball into Wasps 22 as much as possible and with Siviatu, Ashton, Evans and Foden chasing kicks the Wasps backthree is going to be under a lot of pressure. Our game will be about putting Wasps under pressure from the first minute and not giving them any time to dwell on the ball and force them into mistakes.

This game is all about possession and territory and getting the other team to make mistakes - if Wasps make an error then we've got a backline that will punish them. McAlister is the Wasps play maker, but other than that they are quite predictable in how they will play - Gopperth is a kicking 10 and Roberts is a dangerman if you dont make your first time tackles. Our backs will play a rush defence to put Gopperth and McAlister off their game and give them as little time to play the ball as possible - Simpson will sweep behind to bring down any Wasps players who get over the gainline and we will keep a forward out of rucks and mauls to bring Roberts down at first contact.

We will look to bring Evans into the game and use him as a player that we can launch the backthree from - he is a very intelligent player and will look to suck Roberts out of the line and feed Ashton and Foden as much as possible. There is very little pace in the Wasps backline (compared to Saints) and this is something that we have to exploit.

Simpson thrives in these conditions, and has been asked to not make as many attempted breaks this week and instead concentrate on getting the forwards going through the phases and supplying quick ball to Giteau. He's still a threat and Wasps will have to pay special attention to him around the fringes, this will give Giteau more time on the ball, as if say Wasps backrow doesnt target Simpson then he'll be through the gaps and under the posts. This extra time for Giteau will let him dictate the game and play a very intelligent kicking game.

Giteau to kick penalties and look for dropgoals - we want that scoreboard to tick over and slowly dishearten the home team. To continue this goal we will get Giteau to kick us into position and get Saints winning the territory battle. If we keep Wasps out of kicking range and playing in their own half then we have a good chance of winning.

Defence
Defensively we will look to play an aggressive game that sees us get up quickly into the tackle area and put Wasps under a lot of pressure. We want Gopperth to be forced into a kicking game, Claasens doesnt have the threat around the fringes (as say Simpson) so our backrow can concentrate on gunning down Gopperth he'll either have to kick or shovel on s+it to McAlister.

We set out how we will defend lineouts above - this will see Elsom target Gopperth, Giteau onto McAlister and then de Villiers to Roberts. Gives us an extra man to wrap up defenders and try and take out the threat of Roberts in these situations. We will always try and bring a backrow forward or Lawes into the backline in defence at rucks and mauls so we can line Roberts up and take him to ground straight away.

Our main defensive weapon will be Giteau's boot, which will look to keep pushing Wasps back into their 22 - if they kick it back then our backthree will attack when its on and the Wasps backthree dont have that same danger.


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Post by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2011, 4:45 pm

In a Tour match he played a half big deal. You often sub people in tour games particularly if you plan to use them in tests. He was one of only a few players of test quality in that side. More like giving him a half to keep him ticking over.

Not hauled off due to performance in an SA d team. Dreadful point of reference driver.

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Thu 03 Nov 2011, 6:33 pm

Tactics updated...

Chris not going to get into player bashing, everyone has their opinions on players and you trying to criticise my players isn't going to change anyones mind. Think you must be worried by the quality of my side the amount you've criticised us in your tactics.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 03 Nov 2011, 6:53 pm

I havent been criticising you at all Arry - my tactics are looking to push the areas where I think I have the advantage, which would be having more pace in the backline and having a stronger back three?

Sorry if its come across as criticising, no intention whatsoever to do so mate

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Thu 03 Nov 2011, 7:02 pm

Just think you've been bashing a few of my players, Gopperth, Haskell, Wilson etc

We'll let the others see what they think mate. McAlister, Roberts, Haskell all bang in form.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 03 Nov 2011, 7:13 pm

I didnt mention Haskell or Wilson mate - wasn't trying to bash anyone at all, but if I see an area where I think my team have an advantage then I'm going to say that.

I'm targeting Gopperth because McAlister and Roberts are a huge threat - so I'd be crazy not to go for him.

Same with your backthree, I just felt if I could get the ball to them then I've got an advantage out wide, again wouldnt really know how to express that - I didnt name anyone in your backthree or pick apart any individual weaknesses.

Again apologies if its come across as criticism, had absolutely no intention of putting it across like that OK

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Thu 03 Nov 2011, 7:23 pm

"Haskell you never know what you are going to get and Wilson is a good club player but not international standard."

Anyway, we'll leave it at that, let the predictions do the talking.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 03 Nov 2011, 7:55 pm

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Manager – SJE

01. Jerome Schuster 09. Danny Care
02. David Paice 10. Johnny Sexton
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Romain Millo-Chluski 11. David Strettle
05. Andries Bekker 12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Adam Thomson 13. Robbie Freuen
07. Matt Todd 14. Keith Earls
08. Louis Picamoles 15. Luke Rooney

16. Lee Imolek 17. Brett Sharman 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Christian Day 20. Fulgence Quedragao 21. Shaun Perry 22. James Hook 23. Nick Abendanoon

Key Points

Playing Away
To win away from home you need to win the pack battle. We have picked a very physical but mobile tight 5 and a back row with extra expertise at the breakdown to really get on top here. We have selected two powerful, but equally strong technically, props to target the Sarries scrum especially JDP at tighthead. We have picked an athletic back 5 in the pack all of whom offer jumping options in the lineout and will look to disrupt the Saracens lineout with a new lineout leader making his debut today.

We will look to our pack to get us on top and win the lion’s share of possession with which we have trust in our back line led by Johnny Sexton(whom has got over his blip with the world cup balls straight away kicking 23 points in last weekend’s win for Leinster) to use and put the points on the board and pick us up another massive win.

Breakdown
With an out and out openside and a blindside with expertise at the breakdown (Picamoles isn’t too shabby at turning the ball over either!) we will look to seriously target the breakdown today. With our blitz defence stopping Saracens before the gain line we will look to our pack, Thomson and Todd in particular, to hit the breakdown area hard and fast looking to get their hands on turnover ball. We want to seriously disrupt the quality of the ball Houghard is receiving at scrumhalf and disrupt Sarries attacking play.

Scrum
Schuster is a fantastic scrum technician and with the help of Paice at hooker, will look to attack JDP at the scrum. He will look to get the nudge on and draw penalties from the Sarries tighthead. This makes Ducalcon’s job at tighthead of getting at the Beast easier. When truly on top here we will look to take the scrum at freekicks and penalties looking to draw the sin bin…

Lineout
We will look to use the lineout as a destructive weapon and really target the Sarries throw today. Victor Matfield, the only Sarries player with experience of calling a lineout, makes his debut today for Sarries after signing while away with the Boks over the summer. With such little time together the Sarries lineout will not have been able to develop anything complicated. We expect Matfield to keep it simple and call a lot of ball to himself. Andries Bekker will look to mark Matfield out in the line and get up in the air in front of him and get his hands on Saracens ball. Millo Chluski will jump at the front to stop any short balls. As the pressure starts to build Sexton will kick to the corners where we will really look to attack and take advantage.

Target the Sarries Midfield
Ball in hand we will look to target the Sarries midfield. We will target the outside shoulder of Owen Farrell with our pacier runners looking to exploit his lack of pace as shown by Trinder recently. (Strettle and Earls will come in from their wings to really target this.) As Davies starts to come in to cover his midfield partner we will look to ship the ball out further and make use of the space he is leaving.

Setpiece
At scrum time we will be looking to really turn the screw. Schuster and Ducalcon are both strong technical scrummagers and will look to get at their man and really disrupt Saracens putting the nudge on and providing us with a solid platform all game. At the lineout, we will look to Bekker to be our talisman. He will call the line and will have Millo Chluski, at the front, and our entire back row to support him as jumpers to mix things up. Our jumpers will look to either play the ball of the top quickly and look to our backline to move it or bring it down into a maul and make the hard yards through the pack, sucking in the Sarries forwards to leave space out wide for our backs. On Saracens ball we will look for Millo Chluski to get up in the air at the front of the line and Bekker to follow Matfield in the line and disrupt the Saracens lineout. If we really start to get on top of the lineout we will look to Sexton to kick for the corners a few times and really put the pressure on.

Breakdown
We have a very mobile and quick pack to really target the breakdown. On our own ball we will look to our forwards to get numbers to the breakdown quickly rucking past the ball and clearing out the Saracens boys looking to recycle clean fast ball. On defence, if we are first to the breakdown or the ball carrier is isolated we will look to seriously commit numbers and will look to Thomson and Todd to secure us turnover ball. At all other times we will commit lighter numbers to the breakdown but look to seriously counter ruck slowing down and messing up Saracens ball allowing our defensive line more time to set.

General Attacking Play
We will look to play a strong carrying game using our big carriers to hit the gain line offloading in or just before the tackle (when it's on) to support runners breaking the defensive line and keeping our forward momentum going. Earls will look to come in field at different times running lines of our midfield looking for the ball on the offload to get in behind the defensive line. If running the ball is not on we will look to Sexton to kick in behind the Sarries back 3 but particularly down Digby Ioane’s wing.

Danny Care will look to play around the fringes of the breakdown and make his usual snipping runs when it’s on, tying the Saracens back row to the breakdown and leaving the midfield exposed. Sexton has been instructed to play heads up rugby and if overlaps or gaps appear he will look to get the ball moving and take advantage. Rooney will look to come up from fullback from time to time and offer an extra ball carrying threat while looking to create these overlaps out wide.

Sexton will look to kick for goal when in Saracens territory and take the drop goal option when it’s available to keep the score board moving. Danny Care though will look for the quick tap when the Saracens defence is slow to organise.

General Defensive Play
In defence we will be using a blitz defence and will look to get up at pace looking to isolate the ball carrier before he gets to the gain line stopping any Saracens momentum and allowing us to hit the breakdown hard. We will look to keep Saracens on the back foot forcing the kick. Danny Care will act as a sweeper and look to cover any chips in behind the line. Our wingers as always will look to sit deeper on defence then the rest of the line ready for any kicks. Our back three have been instructed to play to their strengths and look for the counter attack, running the ball back with serious pace.





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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 03 Nov 2011, 9:28 pm

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 03 Nov 2011, 9:54 pm

SJE, not going to comment on your tactics, or get into slating players in your team, of whom you will see I have only even mentioned two in my tactics to illustrate what we will try to do, but....

... as a point of order, I have to point out that South Africa went out of the World Cup on about October 9th, so Matfield has been at the club training for at least 3 weeks in this game, and in any case he is not the only player with real life experience calling the line out as Tom Wood often calls the Saints line out depending on who they have playing in the second row.

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Post by CJB Thu 03 Nov 2011, 10:38 pm

Tactics
Set Piece
We have some of the on form scrummagers in the world and will look to use the scrum as a platform. Kubrashvilli will come on at half time to maintain dominance in the scrum. Simmons will be looking for line out ball.

Breakdown
We will be looking to slow the ball down for Quins and get turnovers if possible. We will be putting bodies into the breakdown with Armitage our go to man to get the turnovers.

Control
FDP and Hodgson will look to keep the tempo going throughout the game. FDP will look for spaces in the opposition backline and space in behind the back 3 for the grubber etc. He will look to put Quins back into their own 22. Hodgson will look to keep us playing in the right areas and bring our backline into play when it's on.

Carries
Our game plan will be to have lots of big carries. Sean O’Brien will lead the carries. All our big carriers will be looking to get over the gain line making as many yards as possible. We will look to concentrate Irish defence centrally before releasing our wingers.

Kicking
Francois Steyn will be our main kicker. He will look to take on penalties in front of halfway as this is easily within his range. He will look for drop goals if there isn’t a lot on.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 03 Nov 2011, 10:42 pm

Genuinely dont want to slate any players. Havent slated anyone from what i can see? Just pointing out what we want to do in the match thumbsup

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 03 Nov 2011, 10:52 pm

typing this on the phone. Its a bloody nightmare so expect no more response's... Would have expected matfield to of had at least a week or two off considering his involvement with the saffer's over the summer and since you were considering him retired till during the week? Didnt know wood led the line occasionaly for saints thought Day was the line out leader there majority of the time mate thumbsup

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2011, 11:09 pm

Wood is lineout leader and was back up lineout leader for England during last 6 nations with palmer I believe leading it.

Wood apparently is captaincy material and many pundit wants him as England captain. Would be a brave choice like carling but that worked. To be fair wood was maybe England's best 6n player and should never have been replaced by moody who has not been for for ages and who is fragile these days.

Think moody will be great for bath now not playing international. Just worry about his safety. Players like him Keith wood, James forrester, ferris ( to a degree) are so all action that injury inevitable even more so with Moody's relatively small frame

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 03 Nov 2011, 11:11 pm

Think Deacon ran the lineout Matt, that's why he started over Lawes/Palmer.

Wood was great 6N but poor in build up games which lost him his starting berth I think, big fan though.

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Post by Driver Thu 03 Nov 2011, 11:17 pm

Moody doesn't always pick up injuries , he's just always injured around the times of big tournaments so it stands out more - Same way as Henson hasn't played in a RWC yet.
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Post by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2011, 11:19 pm

Palmer ran 6n lineout deacon wc I believe pooly

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2011, 11:20 pm

Think palmer should have started every wc game maybe with deacon. Guy is class in big games and when he played
In wc was great. Same as Haskell why they dropped him bizarre

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 03 Nov 2011, 11:24 pm

Yea sounds right Matt. Just remember reading something on Deacon and WC lineout.

Palmer was prob our best forward 2010/11, did drop a bit post WC and during WC. I'd still take him and Lawes though, Deacon was an odd call. Can only think it was scrummaging that kept starting?!?!

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