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Post by Rava Tue 29 Nov 2011, 3:50 pm

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Ulster
(15-9): A D'Arcy; A Trimble, D Cave, N Spence, C Gilroy; I Humphreys, P Marshall;
(1-8): T Court, R Best, J Afoa, J Muller (capt), D Tuohy, S Ferris, C Henry, P Wannenburg;

Replacements (16-23): N Brady, P McAllister, A Macklin, L Stevenson, R Diack, R Pienaar, P Jackson, I Whitten

Scarlets:

15-9 Dan Evans, Iongi, Reynolds, Warren, Lamont, Jones, Gareth Davies
1-8 John, Owens, Manu, Reed, Powell, Gilbert, McCusker, Murphy

16-23 Phillips, Iestyn Thomas, Gardiner, Welch, Edwards, Rhodri Williams, Newton, Iolo Evans.


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Post by Notch Thu 01 Dec 2011, 3:04 pm

A lot of people are saying Faloon will leave at the end of the season- can you see another Pro12 or Aviva Premiership team willing to take him on? I'm not sure he'd be able to get a contract somewhere else as anything more than squad cover, which he is here. I couldn't see him starting every week for another Pro side at this level.
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Post by Glas a du Thu 01 Dec 2011, 3:04 pm

Laugh

The Scarlets wont want an arm wrestle though Notch. They are like an attacking boxer, when they are coming forward, there is always a gap. They always give the other side a chance because they take risks.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Thu 01 Dec 2011, 3:17 pm

I think Faloon is pretty underrated actually and would start on many teams in the Pro 12. He hasn't had any time to shine this season and his lack of gametime has been absolutely shocking. He played very well last week I thought, best Ulster player for me in fact, and he is rewarded by being dropped.

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Post by rodders Thu 01 Dec 2011, 3:20 pm

I don't think anyone who played last week can feel too hard done by at being dropped to be honest.

Faloon, Diack and these guys who haven't had much chances should have been playing like men posessed. I don't think anyone did themselves any favours last week, it was a shambles.
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Post by Rava Thu 01 Dec 2011, 3:44 pm

Notch wrote:A lot of people are saying Faloon will leave at the end of the season- can you see another Pro12 or Aviva Premiership team willing to take him on? I'm not sure he'd be able to get a contract somewhere else as anything more than squad cover, which he is here. I couldn't see him starting every week for another Pro side at this level.

Notch, you could have said that about Ryan Caldwell who has started a good few games for Bath Rolling Eyes
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Thu 01 Dec 2011, 5:33 pm

roddersm wrote:I don't think anyone who played last week can feel too hard done by at being dropped to be honest.

Faloon, Diack and these guys who haven't had much chances should have been playing like men posessed. I don't think anyone did themselves any favours last week, it was a shambles.

Faloon did take his chance, he was scavenging all night. He was a bit rusty though, which is to be expected since he has had barely any rugby all season. I don't know why Diack is chosen ahead of him for the bench even.

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Post by Notch Thu 01 Dec 2011, 6:11 pm

Rava wrote:
Notch wrote:A lot of people are saying Faloon will leave at the end of the season- can you see another Pro12 or Aviva Premiership team willing to take him on? I'm not sure he'd be able to get a contract somewhere else as anything more than squad cover, which he is here. I couldn't see him starting every week for another Pro side at this level.

Notch, you could have said that about Ryan Caldwell who has started a good few games for Bath Rolling Eyes

I could have, but I'm actually not very surprised at all by Caldwells form. It was always obvious that he had all the qualities of an international lock except the brain.

I don't really think Faloon will get many games unless it becomes the fashion to have a dedicated fetching openside again.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Thu 01 Dec 2011, 6:25 pm

I think when Faloon plays we can see the impact he has. People have said all season Henry is probably best at 8 rather than flanker also, so we can still have our best players on the field if Faloon starts. I think it is very poor that Faloon has been neglected this season.

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Post by Turkster Thu 01 Dec 2011, 8:06 pm

That's very much a Scarlets B team with only 1 regular starter, if Ulster can't win this game they may as well call it a season and hibernate till next year.

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Post by Standulstermen Thu 01 Dec 2011, 9:00 pm

Lads i appreciate the strides the scarlets have made and at this point i do believe they are a much better team than Ulster but I genuinely cant see them getting anything from Ravenhill against an Ulster team with a point to prove. I may be wrong but i agree with Turkster, if we lose this then lets just blood the youngsters.

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Post by SubsBench Thu 01 Dec 2011, 9:43 pm

Realistically if we get a LBP it wont be a bad result. Saying that, if we can get enough ball it coul be interesting.

Is Roller Skates injured or just rested?

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Post by Glas a du Thu 01 Dec 2011, 9:56 pm

Rested hopefully. The refs talk to each other. He needs a game out if the limelight. We need him and Iestyn at their best for Munster week.
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Post by WillyGilly Thu 01 Dec 2011, 11:22 pm

Big game. Ulster really need a win. Really need a win.
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Post by overlordofthewest Thu 01 Dec 2011, 11:41 pm

Rava wrote:Ohhhh I could crush a grape Very Happy

I could rip a tissue

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 12:25 am

This could be a game to watch..!

Scarlet's have been on fire the last month. This is a stepped down side but has some cracking talent in youngsters like Gareth Davies, Adam warren, Murphy and Owens. Old heads in john and jones. It's not a bad side, two years ago Scarlett's we're fielding this quality as a first team, shows how well they are doing producing players.

Ulster are dying for a win and obviously value giving their likely HEC team a run against a light side.

Big opportunity for some scarlets to put their hands up.

But I would predict a home win at ravenhill.

Can't wait though, should be a cracker

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Post by rodders Fri 02 Dec 2011, 11:21 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
roddersm wrote:I don't think anyone who played last week can feel too hard done by at being dropped to be honest.

Faloon, Diack and these guys who haven't had much chances should have been playing like men posessed. I don't think anyone did themselves any favours last week, it was a shambles.

Faloon did take his chance, he was scavenging all night. He was a bit rusty though, which is to be expected since he has had barely any rugby all season. I don't know why Diack is chosen ahead of him for the bench even.

Thats a fair comment Rory.
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Post by clivemcl Fri 02 Dec 2011, 4:31 pm

Very Quiet... making me nervous!

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Post by Don Alfonso Fri 02 Dec 2011, 4:54 pm

SUFTFUM!

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Post by Guest Fri 02 Dec 2011, 5:14 pm

Ymlaen Scarlets!!


So gutted I can't see this one Sad Sad

Reckon it's going to be a great match.

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Post by WillyGilly Fri 02 Dec 2011, 6:14 pm

She's going to be a cold one at the 'hill the night!
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Post by Backrower678 Fri 02 Dec 2011, 6:58 pm

Gutted i cant get to the game, had to work late so i guess the tv will have to do me, lets ge this season back on track Ulster!!!!!

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:05 pm

Just chatting to a mate in ulster who is at the match, looks like there is a decent crowd building...

C'mon Scarlets

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:09 pm

TRY!!!! LAmont

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:10 pm

Silly start Ulster... 0-5 Scarlets

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Post by wales606 Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:11 pm

Awful by Ulster - running from their own 22 and they give away an intercept.

Ulster 0 - 5 Scarlets

3 minutes played
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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:12 pm

Jesus, great backline play by Ulster, , unlucky Gilroy

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:13 pm

that was close with Cave

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Post by gowales Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:14 pm

Gilroy should have backed himself against the much smaller Iongi

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:15 pm

Is there a bit of a hill down ther ein the twenty two... hell of a roll on Wellies kick

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Post by gowales Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:18 pm

i think its the wind

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:18 pm

Stupid offside penalty to give away, luckily the wind beat Humphreys kick at the posts

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:22 pm

good stuff by Ulster at the moment, some really talented lads... Lot of praise for the scarlets from the Irish com team, very kind of them.

Scrum to scarlets

0 - 5

14 min gone

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Post by gowales Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:23 pm

Haha yea, but better than the one eyed Setanta commentators though

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:26 pm

great try

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Post by Artful_Dodger Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:27 pm

steam

Finding this difficult to watch.

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Post by gowales Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:27 pm

Great try Iongi, pathetic tackle attempt Gilroy

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Post by wales606 Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:27 pm

Excellent try for the Scarlets

Brilliant vision and pass from Warren

Clinical finishing by Ionga.

Ulster - 0 - 10 - Scarlets
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:28 pm

good restart from humphries - poor from Scarlets

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:30 pm

10-3

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Post by Artful_Dodger Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:30 pm

Ulster on the board and can try and get into this now. Stephen Jones looks like he might be having an off night, two missed conversions and a disastrous restart.

Whats worrying is that with two tries this early Scarlets will be looking to play with their heads up.

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:31 pm

Unlucky Ulster. Two forward passes so far.. But your backline looks magic ball in hand.


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Post by gowales Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:31 pm

Half break by Ferris. What a Flip monster

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:35 pm

Good communication between Roland and his touch judges.

Good performance by the ref so far...

Scarlets struggling a bit in the tight, some good defending though. Ferris is a monster

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Post by gowales Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:35 pm

Ulsters should keep it with the forwards. The backs keep stuffing it up

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:36 pm

I think this young Ulster back line want to play the Scarlets at their game. They have the talent, should make for an exciting match, so long as they dont make silly mistakes like that and lose so much territory and a through in at the line out...!

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Post by Shifty Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:36 pm

Ok, I'm here I had 2 choices, Kenfig Hill against Cross Keys or Scarlets Vs Ulster, I went into my back garden (Kenfig Hill main stand) but it's peeing down and freezing cold, so i will put the heating on and watch this on the tv.

The big news is Kenfig Hill have a player in the bin and are losing 5-0 though Sad
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Post by Artful_Dodger Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:36 pm

No Pienaar, Wallace or Payne and Ulster really have no leadership in the backline what so ever, the youngsters like Gilroy and Spence really need to calm things down a bit.

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:38 pm

saying that the scarlets have made a couple of bloomers too... Jees Wellies is so bloody slow at everything...!

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:39 pm

Dan Evans playing very very well there with his kicking for touch...!

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Post by wales606 Fri 02 Dec 2011, 7:39 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:No Pienaar, Wallace or Payne and Ulster really have no leadership in the backline what so ever, the youngsters like Gilroy and Spence really need to calm things down a bit.

Spare a thought for the Scarlets - they are missing Li.Williams, North, Preistland, Sc.Williams, J.Davies, M.Stoddart and T.Knoyle

That an entire backline,

Not to mention their captain Rees.
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