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Post by Dontheman Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:38 am

It looked pretty bad on Warbs of all people. Not even a yellow. People were talking about a citing. Needs to be opened up like Ferris who IMO got away with murder.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:43 am

What!!!!!

Ferris got away with murder? I take it you dont watch much rugby?
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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:47 am

If he's talking about the Welsh match, you're right Billy, but Ferris needs to be cited for repeatedly taking hold of Italian players heads, necks when clearing out of rucks. I counted three separate incidents.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:53 am

I saw Ferris do it once Glas, was not impressed.

As for Robshaws tackle.........
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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:56 am

I was amazed in all honesty Billy, why would he? He's a far better player than needing to do that.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:18 am

I have no idea Glas but someone needs to have a little chat with him.
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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:26 am

If we are talking about the line out, where Warbs jumped in the line out and came down on Robshaws shoulder. I personaly thought it was an accident to be honest.

I thought that as Warbs jumped he acualy came across and Robshaw found him self under Warbs, result Warbs came down on Robshaws shoulder.

An accident nothing more.

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Post by Cadair Idris Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:37 am

majesticimperialman wrote:If we are talking about the line out, where Warbs jumped in the line out and came down on Robshaws shoulder. I personaly thought it was an accident to be honest.

I thought that as Warbs jumped he acualy came across and Robshaw found him self under Warbs, result Warbs came down on Robshaws shoulder.

An accident nothing more.

I think Robshaw was the one who came across - I agree that the resulting danger for Warburton was an accident but it was reckless and should have been a yellow card. I doubt he'll get cited though (and hope he doesn't as he've obviously not a dirty player) - I'd be surprised if he does as the IRB only seem interested in tip tackles these days.

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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:41 am

majesticimperialman wrote:If we are talking about the line out, where Warbs jumped in the line out and came down on Robshaws shoulder. I personaly thought it was an accident to be honest.

I thought that as Warbs jumped he acualy came across and Robshaw found him self under Warbs, result Warbs came down on Robshaws shoulder.

An accident nothing more.

Yes, but he compounds that by then taking hold of Warburton's jersey and pulling him down, that's what made the difference.
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Post by The Great Aukster Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:45 am

The Robshaw Warburton thing wasn't any worse than North's tip tackle on Farrell.

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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:46 am

Laugh
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Post by TJ1 Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:56 am

I actually thought that Robshaw realised what was happening and tried to break his fall. No intent and attempted to minimise the fall.

No citing needed IMO

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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 10:11 am

Look I don't actually care if he's cited or not, I'm not spiteful.
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Post by gelodge Sun 26 Feb 2012, 1:52 pm

I think part of the problem was that the lifter at the back had thrown the player up rather than lifted & pushed, losing any substantial contact to control him. As such Warburton was veering to the side and backwards and was always going to come down hard. Robshaw being there compounded it.

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Post by Seagultaf Sun 26 Feb 2012, 1:59 pm

Glas a du wrote:
majesticimperialman wrote:If we are talking about the line out, where Warbs jumped in the line out and came down on Robshaws shoulder. I personaly thought it was an accident to be honest.

I thought that as Warbs jumped he acualy came across and Robshaw found him self under Warbs, result Warbs came down on Robshaws shoulder.

An accident nothing more.

Yes, but he compounds that by then taking hold of Warburton's jersey and pulling him down, that's what made the difference.

Spot on Glas a du, he tackled Warburton in the air!

Norths tip tackle Yahoo

He knocked Farrell backwards and sat him on his backside, not his head!!!!!!!!

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Post by miteyironpaw Sun 26 Feb 2012, 2:06 pm

Dontheman wrote:It looked pretty bad on Warbs of all people. Not even a yellow. People were talking about a citing. Needs to be opened up like Ferris who IMO got away with murder.

Actually it should have been a penalty to England.

19.10 (d) Lifting and supporting. Players may assist a team-mate in jumping for the ball by lifting and supporting that player providing that the lifting and/or supporting players do not support the jumping team-mate below the shorts from behind or below the thighs from the front.

The Welsh players were supporting Warburton illegally. Which is why he was so high - and why he fell so awkwardly.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 26 Feb 2012, 2:19 pm

To me it was all rather unfortunate. It could quite easily have been seen as a penalty but it would have been very harsh. Warburtons lifter released him, Robshaw didnt take him out. In fact Robshaw even appears to me to be trying to help Warburton down....
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Post by miteyironpaw Sun 26 Feb 2012, 2:22 pm

Agree with you Eirebilly. If you watch Robshaw he holds his ground, and Warburton topples on top of him after being lifted illegally. As Robshaw goes over he's clearly trying to break Warburton's fall.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 26 Feb 2012, 2:33 pm

People will see what they want to see but as an unbiased viewer (ok slighlty biased as i wanted Wales to win Wink ) i did not see one thing thatRobshaw did wrong.
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Post by Dontheman Sun 26 Feb 2012, 5:08 pm

eirebilly wrote:What!!!!!

Ferris got away with murder? I take it you dont watch much rugby?
Has ANYBODY seen the pic in the Rugby Paper?

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Post by Dontheman Sun 26 Feb 2012, 5:10 pm

eirebilly wrote:What!!!!!

Ferris got away with murder? I take it you dont watch much rugby?
Has ANYBODY seen the pic in the Rugby Paper?

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Post by munkian Sun 26 Feb 2012, 5:54 pm

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Post by gowales Sun 26 Feb 2012, 6:56 pm

Nothing wrong with Robshaw's "tackle" coming from a welsh fan. WUM lets move on

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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 7:30 pm

gowales wrote:Nothing wrong with Robshaw's "tackle"

Ooh you are awful!
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Post by gowales Sun 26 Feb 2012, 7:32 pm

oh urine off. What was wrong with it. Completely accidental in my opinion

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Post by Glas a du Sun 26 Feb 2012, 7:42 pm

But it like you! boxing
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Post by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2012, 7:48 pm

eirebilly wrote:To me it was all rather unfortunate. It could quite easily have been seen as a penalty but it would have been very harsh. Warburtons lifter released him, Robshaw didnt take him out. In fact Robshaw even appears to me to be trying to help Warburton down....

Agreed ... But it was given as a penalty ... Another error by Walsh

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Post by miteyironpaw Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:06 pm

As mentioned, should have been a penalty to England for illegal lifting.
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Post by iso Sun 26 Feb 2012, 9:52 pm

miteyironpaw wrote:As mentioned, should have been a penalty to England for illegal lifting.

er ... no.

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Post by miteyironpaw Sun 26 Feb 2012, 10:26 pm

Er ... yes, actually. Check the regulation, you are only allowed to lift from designated areas. If you check the footage, the Welsh lifters are holding him too low on the legs - this is illegal because it's dangerous as witnessed.

Should have been an England penalty.
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Post by beshocked Sun 26 Feb 2012, 10:46 pm

As an England fan I personally thought Robshaw should have got sin binned.

It was accidental but very dangerous.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 26 Feb 2012, 11:39 pm

Dontheman wrote:
eirebilly wrote:What!!!!!

Ferris got away with murder? I take it you dont watch much rugby?
Has ANYBODY seen the pic in the Rugby Paper?

What this one of Ferris getting away with murder?
Spoiler:

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Post by miteyironpaw Sun 26 Feb 2012, 11:41 pm

Erm...his foot is about two inches above the ground. Not above the hips...
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