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Post by HERSH Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:03 pm

606v2 selects the Greatest Rugby XV of all time - WINGERS.

Pick your favourite two.

Please play nicely.

The poll will close at 4pm ‘ish’

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:08 pm

Ashton or Caucau? Neither should be considered in my opinion. Otherwise you'd probably have to include North, Bowe and others.

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Post by HERSH Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:09 pm

I went for Lomu and Tuigamala
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Post by thebluesmancometh Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:11 pm

Ashton - Average

Caucau - one of the greatest waste of talents ever.

Tuilagi - Clubman.

Evans, Siv, Cohen, Tuqiri - Why?

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:16 pm

SHAGGY!

In all seriousness some silly contenders there. I went Lomu, Williams. Clerc and Campesse were close too!

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Post by HERSH Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:17 pm

Someone was bound to want them!

three of them already have votes.
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Post by RubyGuby Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:18 pm

Lomu and Kirwan for me

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Post by Glas a du Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:19 pm

Ashton Laugh

The original one tournament wonder.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:21 pm

Glas a du wrote:Ashton Laugh

The original one tournament wonder.

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Post by rodders Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:24 pm

Roff and Wilson for me. Lomu and Howlett would be close though.
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Post by eirebilly Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:26 pm

I went Campese and Kirwan. Both pure match winners Very Happy
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Post by Glas a du Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2fMySrKb8&feature=related
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Post by CurlyOsp Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:26 pm

Campese and Williams for me! May be accused of wearing red tinted glases but it's all opinion eyy Smile

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Post by Cardiff Taffy Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:30 pm

Lomu and Campese for me.

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Post by maestegmafia Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:31 pm

Jason Robinson was a great winger but poor fullback. Devastating in a tight space, much like campese davies or williams.

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Post by Biltong Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:33 pm

see if you can find a winger that scored more than 30 tries in his first 35 tests. Whistle
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Post by MajorRoadWorks Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:38 pm

Could do with more info here.... I assume S Williams is Shane and G Davies is Gerald.

Some could be a little ambiguous on who have been listed....

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Post by Taffineastbourne Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:40 pm

Shane and Jonah.

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Post by maestegmafia Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:42 pm

Shane and Campese.

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Post by doctor_grey Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 pm

Lomu - Simply one of the best players in all Rugby history. Leaving him off defies logic.

Campese - My other vote went to the evil Campese. Dislike the guy for the obnoxious snot he truly is, but I had no choice. Was close to picking Habana, but he is in a lull in his form at the moment (although i am sure they all did as well).

There are a lot of very good wingers on that list. And there is nothing wrong with being very good, but to me, clearly just a couple of choices.

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Post by Red Right Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:22 pm

Campese and Lomu for me.

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Post by Scot Abroad Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:26 pm

Cardiff Taffy wrote:Lomu and Campese for me.

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Post by Feckless Rogue Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:28 pm

I like Lomu and caucau.
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Post by GunsGerms Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:29 pm

I'd say tommy Bowe is better than a good few on that list as was Simon Goeghan. Lomu gets my vote.

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Post by whocares Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:49 pm

no contest : Campese and Kirwan ; and I am french.
If I had to select a frog, I would probably go for Dominici and Camberabero over Clerc.

Hersh, will make your life easy, here's one all time (mainly oldies though) XV (no need to thank me but if you do I can come up with a bench to Smile )

1 : Os du Randt
2 : Sean Fitzpatrick
3 : Christian Califano
4 : Colin Meads
5 : John Eales
6 : François Pienaar
7 : Jean-Pierre Rives
8 : Zinzan Brooke
9 : Gareth Edwards
10 : Michael Lynagh
11 : David Campese
12 : Philippe Sella
13 : Brian O'Driscoll
14 : John Kirwan
15 : Serge Blanco

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Post by majesticimperialman Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:53 pm

Campasee - Howlette

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Post by HERSH Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:55 pm

leinsterbaby wrote:I'd say tommy Bowe is better than a good few on that list as was Simon Goeghan. Lomu gets my vote.

Thomas who?
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Post by J_D Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:58 pm

Ashton laughing Campese and Lomu for me.

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Post by mckay1402 Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:24 pm

campese and lomu for pure scoring ability.
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Post by overlordofthewest Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:38 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Glas a du wrote:Ashton Laugh

The original one tournament wonder.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:44 pm

For me one choice was easy - Gerald the other not so as there are lots of class wingers on there I have loved watched but plumped for Dougie Howlett.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Lomu is a shoe in, and for me there are a few to consider, Campese and Kirwan push Shane and Billy whizz. But you know what, one of my favourite players to watch, maybe not the most talented, but definately one of the most ruthless...

LIMA LIMA LIMA LIMA LIMA LIMA LIMA, the chiropractor.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:48 pm

But in reality I think I'd go for Campese, purely because I don't want to waste my vote, and I just think he pips shane.

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Post by Geordie Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:45 pm

I'd rather have 'Dai' Duckham over some of that list...

Well i guess you have to have Lomu in there...and the other one...well ill say Jason Robinson for his sheer mesmerising ability...

But i think its difficult to pick a best two as there were some absolutely sensational wingers. Tomorrow i could choose two totally different ones...

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Post by nganboy Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:44 am

Wilson and Campese though he was and is a d*ck
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Post by stlowe Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:23 am

Players like Wilson, Kirwan & Howlett should have more votes than they do.

I agree with nganboy, Campese & Wilson.

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Post by JLyall Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:43 am

Campese has to be one, for all that he's not perhaps the nicest chap, he was a simply phenomenal player.

Lomu was my other choice. Never again will we see such an impact made on world rugby by one man. He was so much more than the monstrous force people remember him for, too. Far more skillful than people give him credit for.

Players like Cohen, Sivivatu, Ashton, Mitchell etc should not be on the list. All excellent players, some still developing, but shouldnt be anywhere near the list of all-time greats. If you're going to include them, then where's the mention of Patrice Lagisquet, JJ Williams, Dave Duckham? Or the more modern talents of players like Christophe Dominici or Chester Williams?

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Post by eirebilly Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:31 am

stlowe wrote:Players like Wilson, Kirwan & Howlett should have more votes than they do.

I agree with nganboy, Campese & Wilson.

I am amazed, especially at how low Kirwan is. For me, he is one of the greatest wingers of all time.

Lomu was very very good but for a limited time (partly due to illness) so i cant see how people see him as being the best.
Each to their own i guess Very Happy
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Post by George Carlin Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:41 am

So many possible options in addition to the standard ones of Lomu, Campo, The Squashed Goblin and Billy Whizz.

For example, John Kirwan, Joe Rokocoko, Doug Howlett, Jeff Wilson (NZ), Ken Jones, Dewi Bebb, Gerald Davies, JJ Williams, Ieuan Evans (Wales), John Bentley, Peter Jackson, David Duckham, Rory Underwood (England), Rupeni CauCau, William Ryder (Fiji), James Small, Bryan Habana (South Africa), Arthur Smith (Scotland), Takudzwa Ngwenya (USA), Daisuke Ohata (Japan), Lote Tuqiri (Australia), Thomas Castagneide (France), Tony O'Reilly, Simon Geoghegan (Ireland).

For me it has to be Campo and Lomu.

Lomu's stats are amazing - still the youngest ever All Black test player (19 years, 45 days), still the holder of the most tries scored in a World Cup, RWC 95 Player of the Tournament, International Hall of Famer and a Commonwealth Games gold medallist (for 7's).
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Post by HERSH Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:42 am

I can't believe Ohata hasn't got any votes. Shocked
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:30 am

Hersh - funny enough I just voted him. The poor sod gets shafted just because he is Japanese. To be the top try scorer in the world, but for the majority of part time fans not to even know who you are is a disgrace.

I also voted Cohen and Lomu as my choices. Lomu is an obvious chice (because North wasn't on the list), but I am not too sure what it is about Cohen, I just liked to watch him play.
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Post by mr_stonelea Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:32 am

Well I chose Lomu and Caucau. When those 2 guys were at their absolute peak, (which admittedly was only for a couple of years in the case of Caucau) they would score tries that no one would believe possible. Mentions in dispatches for Kirwan, Williams and Robinson. Really think David Duckham should have been an option.

And some honourable mentions from memory lane, not on the list - Peter Squires, Elgin Rees, Mike Slemen, John Carlton, Simon Geoghan, Patrick Esteve, Brian Williams, JJ williiams


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Post by dogtooth Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:38 am

shane and jonah. how could you choose any other pairing.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:46 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Hersh - funny enough I just voted him. The poor sod gets shafted just because he is Japanese. To be the top try scorer in the world, but for the majority of part time fans not to even know who you are is a disgrace.

I also voted Cohen and Lomu as my choices. Lomu is an obvious chice (because North wasn't on the list), but I am not too sure what it is about Cohen, I just liked to watch him play.

The worst of it is unlike Shane Williams he couldnt boost his try scoring stats agfainst Japan.

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Post by Geordie Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:52 am

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ScarletSpiderman wrote:Hersh - funny enough I just voted him. The poor sod gets shafted just because he is Japanese. To be the top try scorer in the world, but for the majority of part time fans not to even know who you are is a disgrace.

I also voted Cohen and Lomu as my choices. Lomu is an obvious chice (because North wasn't on the list), but I am not too sure what it is about Cohen, I just liked to watch him play.

The worst of it is unlike Shane Williams he couldnt boost his try scoring stats agfainst Japan.

Ha ha you've set yourself up for a backlash after that one... Laugh

Though i do agree with you...

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Post by Triangulation Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:36 am

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Post by MonkeyOwain12 Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:06 am

Lomu - He changed rugby

The other is tough - Shane, Cohen/Luger, BillyWhizz, Campo, Jeff Wilson, Roff, Saint Andre all spring to mind, as well as a few before my time...

I'm saying Jeff Wilson...I think...Maybe...

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:53 am

maestegmafia wrote:Jason Robinson was a great winger but poor only a very very good fullback. Devastating in a tight space, much like campese davies or williams.

Fixed it
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:36 pm

Campese and Lomu, seems the bulk agree with me.
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Post by HERSH Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:08 pm

So no surprises!

I'd have thought Shane would have got one spot?
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