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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 11:38 am

Another one of those fun threads!!! What in your opinion is the biggest heel or face turns in movies?

The biggest face turn surely has to be Darth Vader at the end of the last Star Wars movie where he chucks the Emperor off that ledge to save Luke Skywalker.

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Apr 2012, 11:40 am

That guy in the film Salt.
He was a friend of Salt all the way through but it turned out at the end he wanted to start a nuclear war. Very heelish!

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Apr 2012, 11:41 am

And Magnito in that new x-men film.

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Post by The Awesome Giz Fri 06 Apr 2012, 11:44 am

The Terminators face turn in Terminator 2, from being heel in the first one.

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Post by The Awesome Giz Fri 06 Apr 2012, 11:46 am

Add Jack Torences slow heel turn in The Shining to that aswell.

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Post by Mat Fri 06 Apr 2012, 12:03 pm

Snape in Harry Potter.

Heel for the most part, seemingly a face turn but then uber heel when he kills Dumbledore but ends up as an uber face in the end.

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Post by Beer Fri 06 Apr 2012, 12:04 pm

Mat wrote:Snape in Harry Potter.

Heel for the most part, seemingly a face turn but then uber heel when he kills Dumbledore but ends up as an uber face in the end.

Thanks for ruining the last film for me! OK

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Post by Clunge4life Fri 06 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm

The Rock in "Get Smart"

Good guy till the end and turns on Steve Carrell

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Post by DDT Fri 06 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm

Mat wrote:Snape in Harry Potter.

Heel for the most part, seemingly a face turn but then uber heel when he kills Dumbledore but ends up as an uber face in the end.

Strictly speaking that's not realy a turn though is it? As he's the good guy all along. The readers just aren't told his reasons for killing Dumbledore until the last book.

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm

I have added a potential spoiler alert for people who havent seen certain films Laugh

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Post by James_182 Fri 06 Apr 2012, 1:41 pm

Wes Mantooth in The Anchorman, He could have pushed Ron Burgundy back into the Bear enclosure but instead saved him, big Face turn after playing a heel throughout and it turns out their brothers as well!

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Post by Gregers Fri 06 Apr 2012, 2:41 pm

Frodo teases a Heel Turn in Mt Doom in TROTK


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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 3:08 pm

That bully from the Michael Keaton film The Snowman: generally being a jerk throughout the film, but then turns face and helps the kid and his dad out.

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 3:10 pm

Clunge4life wrote:The Rock in "Get Smart"

Good guy till the end and turns on Steve Carrell

They should have had JR guest commentate on that film.

"GAWD DAMN YOU ROCKY!! WHY?! YOU SON OF A B1TCH!! WHY ROCKY WHY?!?!"

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Apr 2012, 3:18 pm

Harvey Dent/Two Face in the Dark Knight

Mr Orange in Resevoir Dogs


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Post by Bull Fri 06 Apr 2012, 3:29 pm

yeah Harvey dent

Ankin joining the dark side and turning to Vader!

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 3:38 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:yeah Harvey dent

Ankin joining the dark side and turning to Vader!

That was a real slow burning heel turn!! He underwent a gimmick change afterwards and chaged his attire!!! Proper heel turn!!!

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Post by DonIffy Fri 06 Apr 2012, 4:18 pm

Shot 21 LCFC wrote:
Clunge4life wrote:The Rock in "Get Smart"

Good guy till the end and turns on Steve Carrell

They should have had JR guest commentate on that film.

"GAWD DAMN YOU ROCKY!! WHY?! YOU SON OF A B1TCH!! WHY ROCKY WHY?!?!"

LMAO

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Post by DonIffy Fri 06 Apr 2012, 4:21 pm

Tom Wilkinson heel turn in Rush Hour 1 when you thought he was a face and turned out to be working for the bad guys

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Post by Adam D Fri 06 Apr 2012, 4:29 pm

Judas in the bible.

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 4:34 pm

Jesus is the ultimate babyface. Not even Cena could beat him!!!

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Post by Kenny Fri 06 Apr 2012, 4:49 pm

The Iceberg in Titanic it starts the film just floating around giving rides to penguins and seals and minding its own business , then pow it see's the boat and thinks ' right i'm having you '
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Post by hodge Fri 06 Apr 2012, 5:03 pm

obadiah stane in Iron Man, friend of Tony Stark's and college. His heel turn came when he reveals he tried to firstly have Stark killed then attempts to have him forced from his own company.

One big heel turn trying to kill the guy!

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Post by Crimey Fri 06 Apr 2012, 5:06 pm

Pirates of Caribbean, Barbossa has a face turn in the second film by returning to side with the faces.

Norrington goes from heel to tweener to heel to face in those films.

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Post by hodge Fri 06 Apr 2012, 5:46 pm

thats a good point, how may face/heel turns were there for everyone in the pirates films!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Fri 06 Apr 2012, 8:15 pm

Bover in green street

Turns heel and joins the Millwall fans but then face turns and helps out the West Ham fans

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Post by Ent Fri 06 Apr 2012, 11:07 pm

DDT wrote:
Mat wrote:Snape in Harry Potter.

Heel for the most part, seemingly a face turn but then uber heel when he kills Dumbledore but ends up as an uber face in the end.

Strictly speaking that's not realy a turn though is it? As he's the good guy all along. The readers just aren't told his reasons for killing Dumbledore until the last book.

He is a complete knob from start to finish, being an absolute Muppet to an 11 year old orphan and throughout his whole life because you didn't like his dad is not offset by vaguely giving a Poopie wether he lived or died because you fancied his mum.

Honestly thought this part of the book was terribly written if he was meant to come across as anything but a sad, sad, man who couldn't let go of a childhood crush from 2 decades ago.

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Post by Nay Sat 07 Apr 2012, 10:51 am

But the whole book is based on love being stronger than any Magic. the fact that Love is the strongest thing in the world

It was not a Childhood crush, he actually loved her and he was also the reason that she died when he told Voldermort the part of the prophecy he heard.

By this basic fact alone he feels hatred towards himself when he sees harry, and that makes him dislike Harry, it reminds him of this fact.

There are many many other reason than just his dislike of his father, why he is a muppet although if you spent your adult life looking at a spitting image of a man that bullied you throughout school and tell me that would not feel resentment.

But im going to stop now before i sound even sadder than i do

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Post by Ent Sat 07 Apr 2012, 11:36 am

Nay Bother wrote:But the whole book is based on love being stronger than any Magic. the fact that Love is the strongest thing in the world

It was not a Childhood crush, he actually loved her and he was also the reason that she died when he told Voldermort the part of the prophecy he heard.

By this basic fact alone he feels hatred towards himself when he sees harry, and that makes him dislike Harry, it reminds him of this fact.

There are many many other reason than just his dislike of his father, why he is a muppet although if you spent your adult life looking at a spitting image of a man that bullied you throughout school and tell me that would not feel resentment.

But im going to stop now before i sound even sadder than i do

Like you I don't want to get too deep into discussion. Also we have to take into account that what the author says is gospel, as she created the character and stories.

But, actions speak louder than words - they were never together. Lily was with James from their teenaged years, they got married and had a family together - whilst he joined an evil cult and set about killing people like lily's parents. Way to show your love.

Then when their orphaned child (his fault as you alluded) comes to the school where you are a senior teacher you are horrible to him.

He was/is a horrible man who's only good actions were driven by guilt.

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Post by Beer Tue 10 Apr 2012, 3:05 pm

Ent wrote:
Nay Bother wrote:But the whole book is based on love being stronger than any Magic. the fact that Love is the strongest thing in the world

It was not a Childhood crush, he actually loved her and he was also the reason that she died when he told Voldermort the part of the prophecy he heard.

By this basic fact alone he feels hatred towards himself when he sees harry, and that makes him dislike Harry, it reminds him of this fact.

There are many many other reason than just his dislike of his father, why he is a muppet although if you spent your adult life looking at a spitting image of a man that bullied you throughout school and tell me that would not feel resentment.

But im going to stop now before i sound even sadder than i do

Like you I don't want to get too deep into discussion. Also we have to take into account that what the author says is gospel, as she created the character and stories.

But, actions speak louder than words - they were never together. Lily was with James from their teenaged years, they got married and had a family together - whilst he joined an evil cult and set about killing people like lily's parents. Way to show your love.

Then when their orphaned child (his fault as you alluded) comes to the school where you are a senior teacher you are horrible to him.

He was/is a horrible man who's only good actions were driven by guilt.

Could one of you PM me the main parts of the 7th Pt 2 film and just wrap everything up for me? Saves me watching the film then!!

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Tue 10 Apr 2012, 3:29 pm

Laugh

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