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Post by idris Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:21 pm

Personally I think it's Leigh Halfpenny because he is extremely accurate but also has a monster boot and is also in a good spell of form.

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Post by Portnoy Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:24 pm

idris wrote:Personally I think it's Leigh Halfpenny because he is extremely accurate but also has a monster boot and is also in a good spell of form.

Best you voted for him idris...
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:24 pm

i know farrrell hasnt been playing to long at international level- but has he even missed a kick??

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:24 pm

Over the past number of years nobody comes close to Morne Steyn.
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Post by Portnoy Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:26 pm

biltongbek wrote:Over the past number of years nobody comes close to Morne Steyn.

But the question was 'at the moment'.
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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:27 pm

I'm gonna guess the welsh guy - whadya think?
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:28 pm

lol 1 welsh- rigged vote

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Post by idris Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:28 pm

I haven't voted yet.

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Post by Portnoy Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:29 pm

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'm gonna guess the welsh guy - whadya think?

Shhhurrreeelly not Barney!

I think that idris is completely level-headed.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:29 pm

idris why have you only put one welsh up?

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:29 pm

South African record for most points in a test against Australia.
Fastest 100 points by a Springbok (8 Test matches, 3 as replacement)[8]
Fastest 200 points by a Springbok (16 Test matches)
Fastest 300 points by a Springbok (24 Test matches)
Fastest 400 points by a Springbok (33 Test matches)
Most drop-goals in a Super Rugby season (11).
Most points scored against the All Blacks for a Springbok (31).
Most points in a Tri Nations match (31).
Most drop goals in a Super Rugby game (4) (in the 2009 Super 14 semi-final against the Crusaders)
Most drop goals in Super Rugby (22)
Most drop goals in a Super Rugby season (11 in 2009)
Most penalties in a Super Rugby season (51 in 2010)
Most points in a Super Rugby season (263) – Beating Dan Carter's record of 221 set in 2006.
Steyn also holds the record for most consecutive successful kicks at goal in Test play since statistics for that category were first kept in the late 1980s. He had a streak of 41 successful attempts that ended on 6 November 2010 against Ireland. The previous record was 36, held by Chris Paterson of Scotland
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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:30 pm

Portnoy wrote:
biltongbek wrote:Over the past number of years nobody comes close to Morne Steyn.

But the question was 'at the moment'.

How long is your moment?

If you want this moment then get all of them together and have a shootout.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:31 pm

ok bilt- but has he won a rwc with a drop goal in extra time

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Post by Portnoy Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:33 pm

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biltongbek wrote:Over the past number of years nobody comes close to Morne Steyn.

But the question was 'at the moment'.

How long is your moment?

If you want this moment then get all of them together and have a shootout.

Bang.

You're dead Biltong.

Next mod please Wink
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:34 pm

lols

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:35 pm

Well he was the most accurate kicker at the 2011 world cup, the last time a "moment" occured when they were all measured in the same tournament,

Look when comparing best ever it is usually a subjective reasoning, but when it comes to best kisker, stats tell all.

Find stats over a measured period of time that is better than his.
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Post by 123456789 Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:37 pm

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:38 pm

depends what your stats are bilt- most of yours are 'by a springbok'

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:39 pm

Yes, so find something better, and as I said in the world cup he was he best.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 7:54 pm

is there a cricinfo type site for rugby?

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 8:04 pm

espnscrum.com, but you can't get stats on this.
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Post by ieuan Sat 14 Apr 2012, 8:12 pm

biltongbek wrote:Over the past number of years nobody comes close to Morne Steyn.

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He is a points machine

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 8:15 pm

ieuan wrote:
biltongbek wrote:Over the past number of years nobody comes close to Morne Steyn.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 14 Apr 2012, 8:23 pm

It has to be Wilkinson.

Even though he has retired from International rugby, their is still no one who can touch him realy.

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Post by CurlyOsp Sat 14 Apr 2012, 8:36 pm

Ahh voted for Frans Steyn, meant to vote for Morne Sad

Definately the most reliable goal kicker over the past couple of years.

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Post by fa0019 Sat 14 Apr 2012, 8:40 pm

If we're talking about accuracy then its Peter Grant of the stormers hands down.... no one, not even Morne is close.

He was the top kicker in last years S15.

He isn't even in your list.

Unless the above players hit over 86% then Grant is the man... that was Grants ave. for the season last year and this year is no different. He is a machine.

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Post by Biltong Sat 14 Apr 2012, 10:32 pm

Morne Steyn hit 86% in the RWC.
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Post by aucklandlaurie Sat 14 Apr 2012, 10:50 pm

Talking of goal kicking,I was very impressed with the big one from Cipriani last night.

Dan carter isnt that great a goal kicker,sure he might be the highest point scorer in the game,but a lot of that includes trys.

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Post by Guest Sat 14 Apr 2012, 11:19 pm

Morne Steyn. If it's not him, then it'd be some other SA player. Carter is not even kicking for the crusaders these days (prob injury related).

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Post by timhen Sat 14 Apr 2012, 11:24 pm

Morne Steyn landed more kicks than anyone at the WC. O'Connor, O'Gara & Morath weren't far behind.

Didn't Halfpenney miss the kick that would have sent Wales through to the final? He's made further out earlier in the game, maybe he's not a pressure kicker.

Wilkinson was poor in NZ.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 14 Apr 2012, 11:27 pm

i think it was noted that the 'bad' hkickers landed more rwc2011!!

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Post by aucklandlaurie Sun 15 Apr 2012, 12:23 am

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Morath kicked more than O'Gara and he played less games.

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Post by timhen Sun 15 Apr 2012, 12:37 am

More points, 45 to 44, but not more actual kicks, 17 (6 cons & 11 pens) to 18 (10 cons & 8 pens). Like you say though, in one less game. I didn't mean to give precedence to O'Gara, was just mentioning the better kickers in the same breath and the O' names naturally alliterated.


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Post by Guest Sun 15 Apr 2012, 12:46 am

timhen wrote:Wilkinson was poor in NZ.

To be fair, the ball design was rubbish Whistle


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Post by aucklandlaurie Sun 15 Apr 2012, 1:00 am

Timhem
and the difference of one point might have been a lot bigger had Morath played an extra game,thats all.

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Post by emack2 Sun 15 Apr 2012, 5:19 am

Morne Steyn by a mile,Dan Carter`s World points records include an awful lot of tries.His goal kicking can be very inconsistent,BUT who would you want in your team at number 10.As to has he scored a winning drop goal in a RWC what a stupid remark,I seem to recall a certain Bok doing it in 1995.HE was`nt the World`s best goal kicker at the time but he did the job.
Stats only tell so much,NOT for example weather conditions,altitude,type of ball etc.In SA at altitude in bone dry conditions,with a kicking tee you would expect to kick more goals.Than for example in wet and windy conditions with the old style leather ball and a pile of sand.
Don Clarke on the 1960 tour of SA kicked well over 200 points then without any of the modern aids.
As to TODAY,Tom Taylor at the Crusaders isn`t doing to badly for a newbie,another 31 points today[all of them[ versus the Stormers.
Truth is there are so many modern aids,plus dedicated coaches and better playing conditions,plus more chances at goal than ever.

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Post by gowales Sun 15 Apr 2012, 6:00 am

Morne Steyn by a mile

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Post by George Carlin Sun 15 Apr 2012, 10:50 am

Has to be Steyn or Carter.

I remember when Steyn set the new season points record in 2010.
Incredible consistency.

I don't know what ROG's numbers are but he's miles ahead in terms of scoring the most points in Heineken Cup competitions.
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Post by George Carlin Sun 15 Apr 2012, 10:54 am

biltongbek wrote:He had a streak of 41 successful attempts that ended on 6 November 2010 against Ireland.
The previous record was 36, held by Chris Paterson of Scotland
Mossy only missed the 37th one because he got a bit bored. OK
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Post by Biltong Sun 15 Apr 2012, 10:55 am

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biltongbek wrote:He had a streak of 41 successful attempts that ended on 6 November 2010 against Ireland.
The previous record was 36, held by Chris Paterson of Scotland
Mossy only missed the 37th one because he got a bit bored. OK

The 42nd one Steyn missed was over 50 metres. Wink
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Post by eirebilly Sun 15 Apr 2012, 11:15 am

Without a doubt, Morne Steyn.
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Post by emack2 Sun 15 Apr 2012, 11:21 am

At.Loftus Biltongbek?50metres is a chip shot from there,Dan Carter once kicked one from 63metres there.DC is not noted as a particularly long ranged goal kick.

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A chip it may be, but he isn't inhuman
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Post by George Carlin Sun 15 Apr 2012, 11:55 am

biltongbek wrote:
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biltongbek wrote:He had a streak of 41 successful attempts that ended on 6 November 2010 against Ireland.
The previous record was 36, held by Chris Paterson of Scotland
Mossy only missed the 37th one because he got a bit bored. OK

The 42nd one Steyn missed was over 50 metres. Wink
What a big jessie. Paul Thorburn would have kicked that one in a headwind with his bad foot. OK
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Post by emack2 Sun 15 Apr 2012, 12:08 pm

EVERY Goalkicker gets bad days,Morne Steyn had one a while a go missing 3 or 4 shots.BUT like Don Clarke before him many he kicks others would`nt even attempt.As far as he goes he is the biggest match winner in the Game,BUT like the Boot teams build game around him.attractive it isn`t and ultimately it diminishes the Team.READ "AllBlacks in Chains" Don Clarke played 30 odd tests
he was on the losing side twice but attractive its was`nt.

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Post by Cari Sun 15 Apr 2012, 2:26 pm

Being as the thread is for "...best kicker in world rugby at the moment" why is Jonny Wilko there? He's retired from international rugby now...Anyway, I'd go for:

Dan Carter
Morne Steyn
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Post by sugarNspikes Sun 15 Apr 2012, 2:31 pm

Cari wrote:Being as the thread is "...at the moment" why is Jonny Wilko there? He's retired from international rugby now...
The article states 'world rugby' not international rugby. Jonny had an excellent goal-kicking game against Quins recently in the Amlin.

Not saying he's still the best, but he's still in contention.

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Post by Cari Sun 15 Apr 2012, 2:33 pm

Fair enough, I interpreted the question differently.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Sun 15 Apr 2012, 2:42 pm

Cari wrote:Being as the thread is for "...best kicker in world rugby at the moment" why is Jonny Wilko there? He's retired from international rugby now...Anyway, I'd go for:

Dan Carter
Morne Steyn
ROG

DC's hardly kicked a ball since his RWC injury - in fact he's lost the kicking duties at the Crusaders to Tom "Son of Warwick" Taylor.

Taylor, Peter Grant and Steyn are probably the top kickers in Super Rugby this season.
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Post by Cari Sun 15 Apr 2012, 3:05 pm

Yeah Kiwi, I mis interpreted the question. I was thinking internationally, not all levels. To be honest I don't see enough of the other international players at club level to know who's better than who.

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