Red Bull design illegal

Formula 1 governing body the FIA has brought an end to the controversy surrounding Red Bull's floor design, forcing the current World Champions to remove the holes that sit in front of the RB8's rear wheels ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/279438/red-bull-floor-declared-illegal-by-fia/

No word regarding a punishment, however surely the Monaco result will be void or they will have their points removed. Once again F1 never fails to provide entertainment or controversy, huge story this!

The result won't be void as no appeal was put in so don't expect anything major to happen

The more I read about it just seems to suggest that no action will be taken which just seems wrong. Just because no team appealed still doesnt take away the fact that it was an illegal feature. What's the point of investigating it if the whole outcome is pointless in terms of correcting the race result? Yes removing it from the Canadian GP has been declared, however the damage has been done. A clear advantage was used during the race with the illegal feature and the team scored a haul of points and a race win.......just doesnt seem right.

Why should it boil down to whether or not there's an appeal? Other teams have had race wins rejected after scruteneering because they fail to fall in line with the rules & regulations, irrelevent of them being appealed by other teams. Get my point?

Yeah it seems stupid but then again if was legal when the race happened you can't really penalize them if it turns out it's not. Should of been sorted before the weekend started

If they have deemed that it was illegal and used during the weekend then how on earth can they not disregard them from the race result?

If the constructors championship comes down to the points won from Monaco then questions will be asked of the FIA no doubt, how can a team cheat the regulations and get away with it without penalty?

harryspiv wrote:If they have deemed that it was illegal and used during the weekend then how on earth can they not disregard them from the race result?

If the constructors championship comes down to the points won from Monaco then questions will be asked of the FIA no doubt, how can a team cheat the regulations and get away with it without penalty?

Because at the time of the race the FIA deemed it legal, You can't penalize something that was legal when the race happened. Otherwise they could penalize anyone for just having 4 wheels on their car.

No point discussing this! It's just another typical FIA f*ck up. Legal at 1 o'clock but illegal at 2.30pm after the damage has been done. Shocking! All rules and regs should be set in place and agreed before the weekend gets underway but F1 doesn't and will never work this way

The FIA sure know how to punish illegal behaviour. The condition is that the team must be Mclaren

Belgarion of Riva wrote:The FIA sure know how to punish illegal behaviour. The condition is that the team must be Mclaren

I shall say the same thing to you since it's clearly not going into anyone's head.

They cannot punish RB as they declared it legal over the Monaco race weekend.If it's legal you can't punish them. They may well have decided it was illegal now but at the time it wasn't so they can't do it a thing unless their is a protest put in before the weekend by the one of the teams.

Seriously how hard is it understand that?

Fernando, then they need to fire the people who declared it legal. Afterall, they are employees of the FIA

Agreed. This sort of "delayed action" makes the FIA, scrutineers, stewards etc. look like idiots. Worse, it leads to all kinds of accusations, suspicion and ill-feeling.

The rules and regs for the season should be set in stone before the first race and left that way for the whole season. If something is deemed legal for the opening race, then it should be okay for the final race...even if its later interpreted to be in breach of the rules.

I don't mind a bit of controversy in sport, but this sort of thing is starting to happen too often and is getting ridiculous. For the record, I'm in agreement with Fernando. No action is likely to be taken against RB as their car was deemed legal before the start of the race.

As far as i understand it, it was not illegal, but the rules were not clear, so it was a mistake in how clear the rule was explained... so they then made the rules more clear, and which then the Red Bull design was illegal. But only when the rule was adjusted.

so no punishment can be put forward as Red Bull just capitalized on a loose rule.. which they can no longer do.

Is the slot that Sauber were running still legal?

Apparently so as it has a slot on the outer part of it, so its not a hole as such.

I wouldnt be suprised if RB just make a slot on the outer edge of it.

Fernando wrote:

Belgarion of Riva wrote:The FIA sure know how to punish illegal behaviour. The condition is that the team must be Mclaren

I shall say the same thing to you since it's clearly not going into anyone's head.

They cannot punish RB as they declared it legal over the Monaco race weekend.If it's legal you can't punish them. They may well have decided it was illegal now but at the time it wasn't so they can't do it a thing unless their is a protest put in before the weekend by the one of the teams.

Seriously how hard is it understand that?

That's a completely logical, rational and understandable explanation.

However I still agree with BoR that had it been Lewis Hamilton that benefitted Mosley's facists would've had his points stripped and be dumped to the back of the grid next time round. Need to make sure their blond blue-eyed Aryan wunderkid has an open path to the title.

i think what needs to be understood is that 'they' can punish whoever they want whenever they want

Surely by punishing parties with different degrees of penalties, for similar/same breakage of rules, is putting the sport into disrepute.

F1 in disrepute. lol

Well, whatever the whys and wherefores, its good to know that, given the right strategy and a decent car, Lewis can still deliver the goods, regardless of whatever shenanigans the FIA might be engaged in.

Still, I would like to see at least once, this season, McLaren getting it right for both drivers, instead of just one or the other.