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Is Ferrer a better all court player than Nadal?

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Post by daltond Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:01 pm

Ferrer has won 4 titles in 2012: 2 on clay, 1 on hc and 1 on grass.

Nadal has won 4 titles in 2012: all 4 on clay.

What do you think?

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:06 pm

I think Ferrer will never get anywhere near Nadals levels on any surface.
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Post by daltond Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:07 pm

But Ferrer is actually winning titles on other surfaces than clay this year.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:13 pm

Not in the masters or the slams.. you must remember that Ferrer needs the small 250's and 500's much more than Nadal does to help him keep his 5th ranking.
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Post by daltond Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:39 pm

Ferrer is better on grass than Nadal who was unable to win Halle.

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Post by lydian Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:53 pm

daltond wrote:Ferrer is better on grass than Nadal who was unable to win Halle.
That's a little simplistic...Nadal is the 5 time Wimbledon finalist, twice winner and also won Queens.
What has Ferrer done at these showcase grass events?

Additionally Nadal has 2 HC slams, and 2 other finals. He's won HC Masters too.
What has Ferrer done at HC slams and Masters?

Even Ferrer himself would laugh if called a better all round player than Nadal.
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Post by JuliusHMarx Sat 23 Jun 2012, 1:57 pm

daltond, Ferrer didn't play anyone higher than 60 in the world. Nadal lost to the a player in the top 30. Methinks your conclusion has a slight Wumminess about it.

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Post by lags72 Sat 23 Jun 2012, 2:00 pm

And methinks JHM has assessed correctly Wink

Not much to be debated on this 'topic' really ......

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Post by daltond Sat 23 Jun 2012, 3:59 pm

lydian wrote:
daltond wrote:Ferrer is better on grass than Nadal who was unable to win Halle.
That's a little simplistic...Nadal is the 5 time Wimbledon finalist, twice winner and also won Queens.
What has Ferrer done at these showcase grass events?

Additionally Nadal has 2 HC slams, and 2 other finals. He's won HC Masters too.
What has Ferrer done at HC slams and Masters?

Even Ferrer himself would laugh if called a better all round player than Nadal.

That was years ago.

Nadal has not won a grass or hc title in 2 years.

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Post by hawkeye Sat 23 Jun 2012, 4:12 pm

I feel a little desperateness is beginning to creep into the posts of those that dislike Nadal. Is Ferrer a better player than Nadal? Can Nadal win a title off clay? Can Nadal ever beat Djokovic again? Can Nadal beat Djokovic in a slam final? Can Nadal win a slam without the draw being fixed? Can Nadal win a slam if they were played on one of those nice fast courts they had in the olden days? I really, really wish someone else would win Wimbledon etc etc...

Ha ha! I suppose it means he must be back to his winning ways.

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Post by daltond Sat 23 Jun 2012, 4:23 pm

hawkeye wrote:I feel a little desperateness is beginning to creep into the posts of those that dislike Nadal. Is Ferrer a better player than Nadal? Can Nadal win a title off clay? Can Nadal ever beat Djokovic again? Can Nadal beat Djokovic in a slam final? Can Nadal win a slam without the draw being fixed? Can Nadal win a slam if they were played on one of those nice fast courts they had in the olden days? I really, really wish someone else would win Wimbledon etc etc...

Ha ha! I suppose it means he must be back to his winning ways.

He couldn't last year.

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Post by User 774433 Sat 23 Jun 2012, 4:29 pm

daltond wrote:
hawkeye wrote:I feel a little desperateness is beginning to creep into the posts of those that dislike Nadal. Is Ferrer a better player than Nadal? Can Nadal win a title off clay? Can Nadal ever beat Djokovic again? Can Nadal beat Djokovic in a slam final? Can Nadal win a slam without the draw being fixed? Can Nadal win a slam if they were played on one of those nice fast courts they had in the olden days? I really, really wish someone else would win Wimbledon etc etc...

Ha ha! I suppose it means he must be back to his winning ways.

He couldn't last year.
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2011-01-01-world-tennis-championships-exhibition_N.htm

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sat 23 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

daltond wrote:Ferrer is better on grass than Nadal who was unable to win Halle.

Really are desperatge arn´t you daltond.. another anti-Nadalist... not quite getting the response you hoped for are you :doh:

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Post by CAS Sat 23 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

Nadal is a better player than Ferrer on all surfaces, he is the improved model of David and then some

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sat 23 Jun 2012, 5:49 pm

David is a great tennis player there is no doubt but how on earth can he be compared to Nadal. With the mass of Masters titles, Gs titles and Olympic title to Nadal´s name.. Im sure David would feel highly flattered that anyone would think that he was a better all surface player than his friend and countryman..
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Post by Danny_1982 Sat 23 Jun 2012, 5:58 pm

Ferrer is a wonderful and world class player... But better all court player than Nadal? No.

He's not better than Nadal on any surface. I'm surprised anyone would even consider that he is. It's really not even close.

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