Continuing coverage of SW19's indoor tennis tournament
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Continuing coverage of SW19's indoor tennis tournament
According to that ever reliable BBC 5 day weather forecast it's heavy rain tomorrow with showers for the following three days.
The big question is who does the roof favour if it's going to be in regular use over the coming week? Obviously in the short-term Federer and Djokovic because they'll both get their 4th round matches out of the way should they both win.
Andy must be getting used to playing under the roof by now (has he played more matches than any one else under the roof or am I imaging things?
Finally it seems that the grass needs time to recover between periods when the court is covered. Could it just be that a prolonged period of coverage is going to have detrimental effects on the grass now and then during the Olympics? Seems to me there might be a few more upsets to come should playing conditions suit the guys who can slug it out from the back of the court.
The big question is who does the roof favour if it's going to be in regular use over the coming week? Obviously in the short-term Federer and Djokovic because they'll both get their 4th round matches out of the way should they both win.
Andy must be getting used to playing under the roof by now (has he played more matches than any one else under the roof or am I imaging things?
Finally it seems that the grass needs time to recover between periods when the court is covered. Could it just be that a prolonged period of coverage is going to have detrimental effects on the grass now and then during the Olympics? Seems to me there might be a few more upsets to come should playing conditions suit the guys who can slug it out from the back of the court.
newballs- Posts : 1156
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Re: Continuing coverage of SW19's indoor tennis tournament
Murray-Baggy, Federer-Benneteau, Nadal-Rosol, Djokovic-Harrison.
Top 4 have played under the roof once, IIRC.
Roof closed means more moisture, heavier balls. No wind, so an indoor court, as Emancipator says here - https://www.606v2.com/t31898-wimbledon-an-indoor-tournament .
Top 4 have played under the roof once, IIRC.
Roof closed means more moisture, heavier balls. No wind, so an indoor court, as Emancipator says here - https://www.606v2.com/t31898-wimbledon-an-indoor-tournament .
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Some interesting second serve stats from Wimbledon this year. I can barely believe the following is true... But it is:
In matches this year prior to Wimbledon, Murray won 52% of his second serve points, only good enough for a modest ranking of No. 28 on the pro tour. It's no surprise who tops the list: Roger Federer has the best second-serve winning percentage (60%), followed by Novak Djokovic (57%) and Nadal (57%).
The picture looks much different at Wimbledon. So far, Murray has won a higher percentage of second-serve points (68%) than any man in the draw. Djokovic has improved his percentage (60%); Federer is slightly lower (60%).
In matches this year prior to Wimbledon, Murray won 52% of his second serve points, only good enough for a modest ranking of No. 28 on the pro tour. It's no surprise who tops the list: Roger Federer has the best second-serve winning percentage (60%), followed by Novak Djokovic (57%) and Nadal (57%).
The picture looks much different at Wimbledon. So far, Murray has won a higher percentage of second-serve points (68%) than any man in the draw. Djokovic has improved his percentage (60%); Federer is slightly lower (60%).
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Djokovic...
Djokovic v Ferrero - 2nd serve points won 10 of 24 = 42 %
Djokovic v Harrison - 2nd serve points won 16 of 33 = 48 %
Djokovic v Stepanek - 2nd serve points won 19 of 49 = 39%
Total 45/106 = ~43%
Nadal...
Nadal v Belluci - 2nd serve points won 19 of 32 = 59 %
Nadal v Rosol - 2nd serve points won 29 of 46 = 63 %
Total 48/98 = ~49%
Federer...
Federer v Ramos - 2nd serve points won 10 of 34 = 29%
Federer v Fognini - 2nd serve points won 8 of 19 = 42 %
Federer v Benneteau - 2nd serve points won 27 of 53 = 51 %
Total 45/106 = ~43% (same as Djokovic)
Murray...
Murray v Davydenko - 2nd serve points won 15 of 20 = 75 %
Murray v Karlovic - 2nd serve points won 33 of 49 = 67 %
Murray v Baghdatis - 2nd serve points won 28 of 43 = 65 %
Total 76/112 = ~68%
Slightly different numbers (using Wimbledon Match Statistics) than Danny's, but still very nice.
Djokovic v Ferrero - 2nd serve points won 10 of 24 = 42 %
Djokovic v Harrison - 2nd serve points won 16 of 33 = 48 %
Djokovic v Stepanek - 2nd serve points won 19 of 49 = 39%
Total 45/106 = ~43%
Nadal...
Nadal v Belluci - 2nd serve points won 19 of 32 = 59 %
Nadal v Rosol - 2nd serve points won 29 of 46 = 63 %
Total 48/98 = ~49%
Federer...
Federer v Ramos - 2nd serve points won 10 of 34 = 29%
Federer v Fognini - 2nd serve points won 8 of 19 = 42 %
Federer v Benneteau - 2nd serve points won 27 of 53 = 51 %
Total 45/106 = ~43% (same as Djokovic)
Murray...
Murray v Davydenko - 2nd serve points won 15 of 20 = 75 %
Murray v Karlovic - 2nd serve points won 33 of 49 = 67 %
Murray v Baghdatis - 2nd serve points won 28 of 43 = 65 %
Total 76/112 = ~68%
Slightly different numbers (using Wimbledon Match Statistics) than Danny's, but still very nice.
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Re: Continuing coverage of SW19's indoor tennis tournament
laverfan i meant the total number of times Murray's played under the roof starting with (was it?) Warwinka?
newballs- Posts : 1156
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Laver - that's really interesting.
I would have assumed that Murray's numbers looked so impressive because of the Karlovic match, and his poor returning was distorting his overall stats.
But to have such numbers against Danydenko and Baggy is very impressive. I wonder what the reason is, is he going for more? Is the relatively low bounce helping him mask this weakness in his game?
I would have assumed that Murray's numbers looked so impressive because of the Karlovic match, and his poor returning was distorting his overall stats.
But to have such numbers against Danydenko and Baggy is very impressive. I wonder what the reason is, is he going for more? Is the relatively low bounce helping him mask this weakness in his game?
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If a tennis ignoramus such as myself can spot that the weak 2nd serve puts Murray's overall game on a knife-edge overly dependent on his 1st serve %, then I imagine that the combined brains of Murray and Lendl can spot the same thing.
I'd like to believe that these stats are the result of a lot of work over the last few months. Wimbledon, of course, is the obvious place where an improved serve would show up as compared to the claycourt season.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that this stat is a sign of some big change the effect of which will manifest itself against tougher opponents as the tournament goes on.
On the main OP - the weather today and tomorrow will surely play havoc with the schedule. I am at CC on Wednesday and I v. much hope they won't be clogging it up with screeching wimmin trying to catch up on the schedule.
I'd like to believe that these stats are the result of a lot of work over the last few months. Wimbledon, of course, is the obvious place where an improved serve would show up as compared to the claycourt season.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that this stat is a sign of some big change the effect of which will manifest itself against tougher opponents as the tournament goes on.
On the main OP - the weather today and tomorrow will surely play havoc with the schedule. I am at CC on Wednesday and I v. much hope they won't be clogging it up with screeching wimmin trying to catch up on the schedule.
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