606v2 top 100 of 2011

drawing inspiration from the player top 100 ive decided to do this
all you have to do is put down who you think is currently the best 20 players in the league from 2011 ( NO PEYTON MANNING!)in numerical order.
20 down to 1
for each place gained there will be 1 extra point awarded for the player 20=1 19=2 etc till 1=20, hopefully the variety we get will let us reach 100 players overall.
only vote once and this will run till monday 16th of july 9pm.
i will reveal results on saturday 21st of july.

20. Carl Nicks- Guard- Tampa Bay Buccaneers (okay I may be a bit biased)
19. Jason Peters- Tackle- Philadelphia Eagles
18. Justin Smith- Defensive End- San Francisco 49ers
17. LeSean McCoy- Running back- Philadelphia Eagles
16. Haloti Ngata- Defensive Tackle- Baltimore Ravens
15. Dashon Goldson- San Francisco 49ers- Safety
14. Jimmy Graham- Tight End- New Orleans Saints
13. Jared Allen- Defensive end- Minnesota Vikings
12. Patrick Willis- Linebacker- San Francisco 49ers
11. Adrian Peterson- Running back - Minnesota Vikings

10. Maurice Jones Drew- Running back- Jacksonville Jaguars.
9. Rob Gronkowski- Tight End- New England Patriots
8. Larry Fitzgerald- Wide receiver- Arizona Cardinals
7. Terrell Suggs- Linebacker- Baltimore Ravens
6. DeMarcus Ware- Linebacker- Dallas Cowboys
5. Darelle Revis- Cornerback- New York Jets
4.Tom Brady- Quarterback- New England Patriots
3. Drew Brees- Quarterback- New Orleans Saints
2. Calvin Johnson- Wide Receiver- Detroit Lions
1 Aaron Rodgers - Quarterback- Green Bay Packers


Some of them will cause some acrimony.

20. Eli Manning QB(Giants)
19. Victor Cruz WR(Giants)
18. Navarro Bowman LB(49ers)
17. Larry Fitzgerald WR(Cardinals)
16. AJ Green WR(Bengals)
15. Jordy Nelson WR(Packers)
14. Jimmy Graham TE(Saints)
13. Cam Newton QB(Panthers)
12. Haloti Ngata DT(Ravens)
11. Maurice Jones-Drew RB(Jaguars)
10. LeSean McCoy RB(Eagles)
9. Darelle Revis CB(Jets)
8. Patrick Willis LB(49ers)
7. DeMarcus Ware LB(Cowboys)
6. Jarred Allen DE(Vikings)
5. Tom Brady QB(Patriots)
4. Calvin Johnson WR(Lions)
3. Aaron Rodgers QB(Packers)
2. Rob Gronkowski TE(Patriots)
1. Drew Brees QB(Saints)

20. Charles Woodson - Defensive Back - Green Bay Packers
19. Jason Pierre-Paul - Defensive End - New York Giants
18. Cam Newton - Quarterback - Carolina Panthers
17. LeSean McCoy- Running back- Philadelphia Eagles
16. Haloti Ngata- Defensive Tackle- Baltimore Ravens
15. Ray Rice - Running Back - Baltimore Ravens
14. Jimmy Graham- Tight End- New Orleans Saints
13. Rob Gronkowski- Tight End- New England Patriots
12. Adrian Peterson- Running back - Minnesota Vikings
11. Patrick Willis- Linebacker- San Francisco 49ers

10. Maurice Jones Drew- Running back- Jacksonville Jaguars.
9. Larry Fitzgerald- Wide receiver- Arizona Cardinals
8. Jared Allen- Defensive end- Minnesota Vikings
7. Terrell Suggs- Linebacker- Baltimore Ravens
6. DeMarcus Ware- Linebacker- Dallas Cowboys
5. Darelle Revis- Cornerback- New York Jets
4. Drew Brees- Quarterback- New Orleans Saints
3. Tom Brady- Quarterback- New England Patriots
2. Calvin Johnson- Wide Receiver- Detroit Lions
1. Aaron Rodgers - Quarterback- Green Bay Packers

20. Cam Newton
19. A.J Green
18. Joe Thomas
17. Joe Haden
16. NaVorro Bowman
15. Jason Pierre-Paul
14. LeSean McCoy
13. Eli Manning
12. Rob Gronkowski
11. DeMarcus Ware
10. Justin Smith
9.. Jared Allen
8. Maurice Jones-Drew
7. Adrian Peterson
6. Tom Brady
5. Patrick Willis
4. Darrelle Revis
3. Calvin Johnson
2. Aaron Rodgers
1. Drew Brees

20. Aldon Smith
19. Andy Dalton
18. Cam Newton
17. Vernon Davis
16. LeSean McCoy
15. Terrell Suggs
14. Victor Cruz
13. Jared Allen
12. Eli Manning
11. Maurice Jones-Drew
10. Rob Gronkowski
9. Matt Forte
8. Tom Brady
7. DeMarcus Ware
6. Arian Foster
5. Jason Pierre-Paul
4. Matthew Stafford
3. Calvin Johnson
2. Aaron Rodgers
1. Drew Brees

20. Patrick Willis LB (49ers)
19. Haloti Ngata DE (Ravens)
18. Demarcus Ware LB (Cowboys)
17. Jared Allen DE (Vikings)
16. Larry Fitzgerlad (Cardinals)
15. Joe Haden CB (Browns)
14. MJD RB (Jaguars)
13. Duane Brown OT (Texans)
12. Geno Atkins DT (Bengals)
11. Jimmy Graham TE (Saints)
10. Jason Peters OT (Eagles)
9. Rob Gronkowski TE (Patriots)
8. Terrell Suggs LB (Ravens)
7. Justin Smith DE (49ers)
6. Drew Brees QB (Saints)
5. Lesean McCoy RB (Eagles)
4. JPP DE (Giants)
3. Tom Brady QB (Patriots)
2. Calvin Johnson WR (Lions)
1. Aaron Rodgers QB (Packers)

who is patrick rogers?

Quick question - when you say "currently the best 20 players in the league from 2011", I'm a bit confused. Are you saying the best 20 players of the 2011 season? Or the best 20 players right now? Because, for example, you'd be hard pushed to include Jason Peters or Terrell Suggs since they'll both miss at least most, if not all, of the season, so they can't really be 'current' top players, if you see what I mean?

top players of 2011

We can't have a "current" top players because it's the off season.

cherriesfan wrote:who is patrick rogers?

I'd imagine Charles Rodgers :p

crazy_dave23 wrote:

cherriesfan wrote:who is patrick rogers?

I'd imagine Charles Rodgers :p

Or even Carlos Rogers

^ technically true, but you can make an educated guess based on a mixture of 2011 performance and offseason news, such as injuries or reports out of camp... anyway, these top 100s are fun - we did one over at TPL (*advertisement*) so I'll recycle my top 20 from then:

20. Andre Johnson, WR, HOU
19. DeMarcus Ware, LB, DAL
18. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, PIT
17. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
16. Ed Reed, S, BAL
15. Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, JAX
14. LeSean McCoy, RB, PHI
13. Ray Rice, RB, BAL
12. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, NYG
11. Jared Allen, DE, MIN
10. Rob Gronkowski, TE, NE
9. Eli Manning, QB, NYG
8. Haloti Ngata, DT, BAL
7. Darrelle Revis, CB, NYJ
6. Calvin Johnson, WR, DET
5. Justin Smith, DE, SF
4. Tom Brady, QB, NE
3. Patrick Willis, LB, SF
2. Aaron Rodgers, QB, GB
1. Drew Brees, QB, NO

Showing my usual lack of appreciation for the offensive line...

20. Jimmy Graham
19. Navarro Bowman
18. Ed Reed
17. Larry Fitzgerald
16. Justin Smith
15. Maurice Jones Drew
14. Haloti Ngata
13. Arian Foster
12. Rob Gronkowski
11. Darelle Revis
10. Jared Allen
9. Jason Pierre Paul
8. Patrick Willis
7. LeSean McCoy
6. DaMarcus Ware
5. Tom Brady
4. Terrell Suggs
3. Drew Brees
2. Calvin Johnson
1. Aaron Rodgers

MockingJay33 wrote:

crazy_dave23 wrote:

cherriesfan wrote:who is patrick rogers?

I'd imagine Charles Rodgers :p

Or even Carlos Rogers

Yes... not sure why I tried to correct to a failed Lions first round WR... it sounded right in my head!

crazy_dave23 wrote:

MockingJay33 wrote:

crazy_dave23 wrote:

cherriesfan wrote:who is patrick rogers?

I'd imagine Charles Rodgers :p

Or even Carlos Rogers

Yes... not sure why I tried to correct to a failed Lions first round WR... it sounded right in my head!

Then again, since he did say it was an LB, maybe the "Patrick" bit was correct? :P

Sorry supposed to be Willis, its been a long day.

comeon guys iknow there a a lot more people who can vote

I'll get a vote in if you leave it open for longer.

okay ill extend thedeadline till nextsaturady, (9days)

20. Lawrence Timmons, LB, PIT
19. London Fletcher, LB, WAS
18. Julius Peppers, DE, CHI
17. Andre Johnson, WR, HOU
16. Terell Suggs, LB, BAL
15. Vince Wilfork, NT, NE
14. Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, JAX
13. Mario Williams, DE, BUF
12. Jared Allen, DE, MIN
11. Ed Reed, FS, BAL
10. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
9. Darelle Revis, CB, NYJ
8. Haloti Ngata, DT, BAL
7. Joe Thomas, LT, CLE
6. Calvin Johnson, WR, DET
5. Aaron Rogers, QB, GB
4. Tom Brady, QB, NE
3. Patrick Willis, LB, SF
2. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, DAL
1. Drew Brees, QB, NO.

I'm sort of shocked to see Justin Smith and Joe Thomas left off lists.

well, he was my #5 :P Joe Thomas is a fantastic, fantastic pass protector, but not yet an elite run blocker. He's a top 5 tackle in the league IMO, but not a top 20 player

i see him as a top twenty player because LT's are probably the second most important position and he is the very best LT, easily better than Long

20: Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots
19: Jason Peters, OL, Philadelphia Eagles
18: Adrian Peterson, RB, Minnesota Vikings
17: Lardarius Webb, DB, Baltimore Ravens
16: Eli Manning, QB, New York Giants
15: Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars
14: DeMarcus Ware, LB, Dallas Cowboys
13: Haloti Ngata, DL, Baltimore Ravens
12: Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, New York Giants
11: Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals
10: Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots
09: Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers
08: Terrell Suggs, DE, Baltimore Ravens
07: Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings
06: Calvin Johnson, WR, Detroit Lions
05: Justin Smith, DL, San Francisco 49ers
04: Darrelle Revis, DB, New York Jets
03: Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints
02: Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
01: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers

GurTPL wrote:well, he was my #5 :P Joe Thomas is a fantastic, fantastic pass protector, but not yet an elite run blocker. He's a top 5 tackle in the league IMO, but not a top 20 player

My issue with this (not really your argument but the fall in position in the NFL's top 100 lists) is that in reality did Thomas get worse at run blocking from the 2010 season to 2011 or did the running backs get worse? Now I've not studied the tape but I'm pretty certain it's the second option.

^ it's a fair question. i'll do a little gamepass watching and let you know what i see

20. Carl Nicks, G, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
19. Navarro Bowman, LB, San Francisco 49ers
18. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens
17. Jason Pierre Paul, DE, New York Giants
16. Adrian Peterson, RB, Minnesota Vikings
15. Joe Thomas, OT, Cleveland Browns
14. Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers
13. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals
12. Haloti Ngata, DT, Baltimore Ravens
11. Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings
10. Jason Peters, OT, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots
8. Calvin Johnson, WR, Detroit Lions
7. Eli Manning, QB, New York Giants
6. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys
5. Justin Smith, DE, San Francisco 49ers
4. Darrelle Revis, CB, New York Jets
3. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints
2. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
1. Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers

20= Demarco Murray & Victor Cruz
19. Andy Dalton
18. Tim Tebow
17. Patrick Willis
16. Cam Newton
15. Terrell Suggs
14. Matt Stafford
13. Eli Manning
12. Greg Jennings
11. Ray Rice
10. Vernon Davis
9. Darrelle Revis
8. Hakeem Nicks
7. Tom Brady
6. Wes Welker
5. Jason Pierre-Paul
4. Rob Gronkowski
3. David Akers
2. Aaron Rodgers
1. Drew Brees

What an odd list! No demarcus ware or MJD but Akers and Vernon Davis make it?

cherriesfan wrote:drawing inspiration from the player top 100 ive decided to do this
all you have to do is put down who you think is currently the best 20 players in the league from 2011 ( NO PEYTON MANNING!)in numerical order.
20 down to 1
for each place gained there will be 1 extra point awarded for the player 20=1 19=2 etc till 1=20, hopefully the variety we get will let us reach 100 players overall.
only vote once and this will run till monday 16th of july 9pm.
i will reveal results on saturday 21st of july.

extened deadline

1 Aaron Rodgers, QB Packers
2 Drew Brees, QB Saints
3 Calvin Johnson, WR Lions
4 MJD, RB Jaguars
5 Ray Rice, RB Ravens
6 Rob Gronkowski, TE Patriots
7 Jimmy Graham, TE Saints
8 Tom Brady, QB Patriots
9 Jared Allen, DE Vikings
10 DeMarcus Ware, LB Cowboys
11 Eli Manning, QB Giants
12 Terrell Suggs, LB Ravens
13 Wes Welker, WR Patriots
14 Victor Cruz, WR Giants
15 LeSean McCoy, RB Eagles
16 Cam Newton, QB Panthers
17 JPP,DE Giants
18 Forte, RB Bears
19 Jordy Nelson, WR Packers
20 Matthew Stafford, QB Lions

Sorry... Sam Bradford...

mikeygnfl wrote:20= Demarco Murray & Victor Cruz
19. Andy Dalton
18. Tim Tebow
17. Patrick Willis
16. Cam Newton
15. Terrell Suggs
14. Matt Stafford
13. Eli Manning
12. Greg Jennings
11. Ray Rice
10. Vernon Davis
9. Darrelle Revis
8. Hakeem Nicks
7. Tom Brady
6. Wes Welker
5. Jason Pierre-Paul
4. Rob Gronkowski
3. David Akers
2. Aaron Rodgers
1. Drew Brees

Really?

I did put a big amount on players worth to their teams in 2011, especially in helping teams get to the play offs. Akers broke Jerry Rice's 49ers points scored in a second, broken plenty of kicking records and scored 46% of the 49ers points.

Tim Tebow guided the Broncos to the play offs and made 'that pass' against the Steelers in the Wildcard week.

crazy_dave23 wrote:Sorry... Sam Bradford...

Brain Freeze I meant Stafford

1. Maurice Jones Drew, RB, Jaguars
2. Drew Brees, QB, Saints
3. Aaron Rodgers, QB, Packers
4. Calvin Johnson, WR, Lions
5. Darelle Revis, CB, Jets
6. Jared Allen, DE, Vikings
7. Ray Rice, RB, Ravens
8. Tom Brady, QB, Patriots
9. Terrell Suggs, LB, Ravens
10. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Cardinals
11. DeMarcus Ware, LB, Cowboys
12. Jason Babin, DE, Eagles
13. LeSean McCoy, RB, Eagles
14. Joe Thomas, OT, Browns
15. Rob Gronkowski, TE, Patriots
16. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, Giants
17. Patrick Willis, LB, 49ers
18. Eli Manning, QB, Giants
19. Carl Nicks, OG, Saints
20. Von Miller, LB, Broncos

mikeygnfl wrote:I did put a big amount on players worth to their teams in 2011, especially in helping teams get to the play offs. Akers broke Jerry Rice's 49ers points scored in a second, broken plenty of kicking records and scored 46% of the 49ers points.

Tim Tebow guided the Broncos to the play offs and made 'that pass' against the Steelers in the Wildcard week.

TBF thats only because alex smith donsnt do redzone scoring

cherriesfan wrote:

mikeygnfl wrote:I did put a big amount on players worth to their teams in 2011, especially in helping teams get to the play offs. Akers broke Jerry Rice's 49ers points scored in a second, broken plenty of kicking records and scored 46% of the 49ers points.

Tim Tebow guided the Broncos to the play offs and made 'that pass' against the Steelers in the Wildcard week.

TBF thats only because alex smith donsnt do redzone scoring

#fadetorandymoss

Ok maybe I'm being optimistic, but our offence will improve now we have some receivers!

voting closed got a cricket match tmmrw so results should be monday, but who will be 1

UPDATE, RESULTS ARE DONE AND I WILL POST THEM TOMMOROW

I guess tomorrow never arrived?

Haha, forgot about this! Come on cherries, get it posted! And I don't want to see Marshawn Lynch, Matt Flynn and Sidney Rice in the top 3 or I will be suspicious

Terrell Owens is the Bestest player in the NFL. Except he is a sleeper.....

Whilst I'm happy to laugh at Cherries for some of his posts it is unnecessary to bring it onto every thread.

Always funny though

lol got the list all done, will post tonite

No offence intended, honest!