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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:01 pm

The best of the Americas vs the best of Europe. Who wins per division?


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:07 pm

Pity you didn't write this in the 80's buddy.... Cool

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:13 pm

True. Europe would have no chance in any division.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:26 pm

I get three captain picks right...??

Ali at heavy

Sugar Ray robbo at welter.......

Armstrong at feather....

cheers..

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:27 pm

Make sure they're alive.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:28 pm

Ali doesn't have to be!! Wink

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:29 pm

How will he communicate with them?


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Post by seanmichaels Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:31 pm

Is it home or away? Would love to watch it in Europe bout the thought of 30,000 sceptics singing 'hell yeah' and 'where's my howt dowg' makes me want to spend an evening with Davidemore.

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:33 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Is it home or away? Would love to watch it in Europe bout the thought of 30,000 sceptics singing 'hell yeah' and 'where's my howt dowg' makes me want to spend an evening with Davidemore.

Laugh Laugh Laugh

Have the fights in neutral ground.......South Africa Cool

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:37 pm

I'd rather watch it back home.....

No neanderthals spurting out retarded soccer chants.. Cool

I like class......and mature company.. Cool

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:45 pm

South Africa it is then. Sorted.

So the fights are

HW
Wlad vs Errrrrr???

Cruiser

Hernandez vs Huck

LHW

Dawson vs Clev Laugh

SMW

Ward vs Kessler

MW

Martinez vs Golovkin

LMW

Floyd vs ?????

WW

Bradley vs Brook

LWW

Garcia vs Khan

LW

Burns vs Broner

SFW

Salgado vs ?????

FW

Salido vs ?????

SBW

Rigo vs Frampton

Cant be bothered with lower divisons.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:03 pm

Since when were Martinez, Hernandez, Salido, Salgado and Rigondeaux american?

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:12 pm

I meant The Americas. That includes the Caribbean and South america. Apologies I'll edit it.

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Post by owen10ozzy Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:13 pm

Truss -

I'm intrigued...being as you are an American did you go to watch any relatively big fights whilst you lived there....and since you have moved to our fair old lands have you seen anything whilst here in Britain...

I would be intrigued to get a perspective on the difference in atmosphere.

I went to Hatton v Mayweather and it was electrifying....though im pretty certain that was down to the travelling fans more than anything. I have been to a fair few events here in the UK and they always seem to have cracking atmosphere...where as whenever I watch a show from America (on the tv) it doesn't seem to have the same buzz....

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:17 pm

Hardly a fair Ryder Cup, Az, if it's going to be the entire Americas! A zillion times the land mass, the population and the gyms, I expect. What next, the Americas against Antarctica?

I'd like to see a US versus Latin America contest - that might be real fun. I'd have enjoyed it even more in the 70s or 80s.

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Post by EdWoodjr Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:20 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Is it home or away? Would love to watch it in Europe bout the thought of 30,000 sceptics singing 'hell yeah' and 'where's my howt dowg' makes me want to spend an evening with Davidemore.

'Get in the hole' is another of the Yanks' favourites. steam

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:22 pm

captain carrantuohil wrote:Hardly a fair Ryder Cup, Az, if it's going to be the entire Americas! A zillion times the land mass, the population and the gyms, I expect. What next, the Americas against Antarctica?

I'd like to see a US versus Latin America contest - that might be real fun. I'd have enjoyed it even more in the 70s or 80s.

The Ryder cup used to be between UK and USA. Now its europe. The best of the Americas v the best of Europe.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:24 pm

I know, but the golf tournament now features sides with roughly equal populations against each other. The whole of the Americas against the whole of Europe at boxing would be a catchweight contest of Pacquiaoesque proportions.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:25 pm

Well the ryder cup is America vs Europe so a boxing equivalent would have to be the same otherwise it's the might of America, Puerto Rico, Mexico and Argentina against the UK and Wladimir.

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:57 pm

Ok, The`Americas vs the Rest of the world.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:03 pm

Aha, a Presidents Cup, az, now you're talking. Americas still win it by miles - perhaps 12-5 or 13-4.


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Post by 6oldenbhoy Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:08 pm

captain carrantuohil wrote:Aha, a Presidents Cup, az, now you're talking. Americas still win it by miles - perhaps 12-5 or 13-4.


Not in the amateurs.

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:10 pm

This thread is not going the way its supposed to Sad Crying or Very sad

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:11 pm

Too true, 6oldenbhoy. If amateur boxing is still the cradle of future professional champions, perhaps we can look for a little European hegemony five years from now? Nice thought, but I doubt that life will be quite so simple.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:13 pm

Oh alright, then, az. The Americas are no match for the European-led Rest of the World, who coast to an easy triumph before the third day has even started.

Better?

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:16 pm

Yeah, with this APB nonsense I doubt any of the top Eastern European/Asian fighters will fight 'professionally'.

Sorry to derail your thread even further Azania, but did you see GB are in talks to have a WSB franchise, Captain?

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Post by azania Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:16 pm

Noooooo! Take the best two from each division and discuss who wins! How why and when, plus the odd anti American jibe thrown in for good measure.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:20 pm

I hadn't, 6oldenbhoy, but I've just looked briefly at a couple of articles after your prompt. Is this an idea that could catch on? Possibly one for another thread, or az will start steaming from the ears, but it could mean that the numbers of professional fighters in the future are drastically reduced even further.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:55 am

Major fail, SHOOOOOOOOO
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Post by two_tone Fri 28 Sep 2012, 10:42 am

6oldenbhoy wrote:Yeah, with this APB nonsense I doubt any of the top Eastern European/Asian fighters will fight 'professionally'.

Sorry to derail your thread even further Azania, but did you see GB are in talks to have a WSB franchise, Captain?

Had to laugh at the irony of that.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 28 Sep 2012, 11:05 am

azania wrote:
captain carrantuohil wrote:Hardly a fair Ryder Cup, Az, if it's going to be the entire Americas! A zillion times the land mass, the population and the gyms, I expect. What next, the Americas against Antarctica?

I'd like to see a US versus Latin America contest - that might be real fun. I'd have enjoyed it even more in the 70s or 80s.

The Ryder cup used to be between UK and USA. Now its europe. The best of the Americas v the best of Europe.

The Ryder cup is USA v Europe though, you're not comparing like for like.

If it's 'The Americas' then it should be versus 'Eurasia' or something like that. In which case there're a fair few asians at the lower weights that come to our aid!

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Post by Jab to An MD Fri 28 Sep 2012, 11:00 pm

This was one of my few articles on the old 606. I suggested calling it the Bob Fitzsimmons trophy, due to his duel nationality. In my format the top three from Europe would fight the top 3 from USA in each weight division, as picked by the captains (perhaps trainers?). A points system would be in place 1 point for a draw 2 for a points win, and 3 for a KO.

Complex and would never happen due to promotors and politics. But would be great.


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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 29 Sep 2012, 3:45 pm

this has happened before, there was a uk vs usa event in liverpool, it was quite big, the only 2 fighters i can remember are alan minters son and peter manfredo jr. it was fun though, think it may have had a few other contender fighters too.

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Post by seanmichaels Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:20 pm

Not really boxing related but this article is a must read for all Boxing 606'ers:

https://www.606v2.com/t34807-europe-can-t-win

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Post by superflyweight Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:31 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Not really boxing related but this article is a must read for all Boxing 606'ers:

https://www.606v2.com/t34807-europe-can-t-win

I saw this last night, sean and it did make me laugh. Poor Truss! The article itself wasn't all that unreasonable and he made a lot of decent points but he really did put himself out on a limb.

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Post by Union Cane Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:43 pm

Bless him.

I've recently taken up golf myself but wouldn't dream of posting on the golf board, the attitude of the regulars on there is not welcoming at all.
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Post by seanmichaels Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:43 pm

Agreed. He did have the irght scores after 2 days but how ironice that Lawrie and Kaymer were so involved in the fightback

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:45 pm

Couldn't resist.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:05 pm

Oh dear:

Slowride wrote:from what i can tell trussman usually posts on the boxing and body building pages

clearly has taken too many headshots and steroids the referee should stop the contest now

Laugh poor Truss, perfectly innocent and interesting post and he got a right shellacking!

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:11 pm

Bet he was reaaaaaally regretting this post about 12hrs later......

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I retract on Colseart's who I think every American would love to see again after this week.....and who has been both golf and personality wise a real pleasure...

However my summation does remain pretty much the same...

Hope my wum-status gets reviewed with immediate effect!! Cool

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Post by BoxingFan88 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:35 pm

Should just have a super six for each division...

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Post by superflyweight Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:36 pm

It always amazes me that people on boards for other sports automatically assume that anyone posting on boxing has participated in the sport and make references to someone taking a few headshots.

I've been hit in the face once and that was when playing football and the only black eye I've ever had was when I accidently smacked myself in the face with a golf club (don't ask).

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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:40 pm

superflyweight wrote:It always amazes me that people on boards for other sports automatically assume that anyone posting on boxing has participated in the sport and make references to someone taking a few headshots.

I've been hit in the face once and that was when playing football and the only black eye I've ever had was when I accidently smacked myself in the face with a golf club (don't ask).


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Post by JabMachineMK2 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:43 pm

I think its just those kind of people - golf is more of a past-time in my eyes, so i'd be shocked if someone who watched golf avidly hadn't at least had a go, they might think the same of us.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:47 pm

Wow those members of the golf board really did a number on him...

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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 01 Oct 2012, 2:55 pm

He deserves it. He only went on there to antagonise. Statements like Europeans "overachieve" are patronising. Why he thinks America is above the rest of the world, I do not know, but moments like these are priceless. Truss was being an idiot.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Mon 01 Oct 2012, 3:01 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:I think its just those kind of people - golf is more of a past-time in my eyes, so i'd be shocked if someone who watched golf avidly hadn't at least had a go, they might think the same of us.

Sorry JM, have to pull you up on that one. Golf is 100% a sport and not a pastime.

Please see Mind the Windows Tino's 'Shoe Theory' for segregation of Sports and Games.

*There is also Il Gialloblu's 'Smoking Theory', but I think mine is more comprehensive.


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Post by seanmichaels Mon 01 Oct 2012, 3:18 pm

I wonder what was bigger, Truss's slice of humble pie or Clarkes & Jimenez's cigar box?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 01 Oct 2012, 3:25 pm

seanmichaels wrote:I wonder what was bigger, Truss's slice of humble pie or Clarkes & Jimenez's cigar box?

Hahaha

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