Arrow

by **hampo17** Tue 23 Oct 2012, 3:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

Anyone catch this on Sky1 last night?

Decent first episode, and a good cast.

by hodge Mon 19 May 2014, 12:47 am

Very good season overall, just in case anyone hasn't seen the last episode I'm outlining what I think will happen in season 4.

Spoiler:

by westisbest Fri 23 May 2014, 8:38 am

Very good episode last night and ending to the season.

Have really enjoyed the second season.
The characters they have introduced have all been good.

Probably give this season 8/10

Give the first 6.5/7.

Look forward to the 3rd season.

by TopHat24/7 Fri 23 May 2014, 10:34 am

Have LOVED the last few episodes, absolutely superb stuff!!

They're the best there's been across both series'.

And nowwwwww we know how he got off that blinking island! (looking forward to more on that story though, nice little teaser)

Also, any comic book geeks out there know who Thea is clearly going to turn into.......? Thought she was a bit of a dick at the end, frankly.

by westisbest Fri 23 May 2014, 10:43 am

Gonna be a bit strange seeing Thea 'turning onto' someone.

Also heard Laurel becoming someone else.

For me there is to much character change.

Was Happy with Oliver, Felicity & Diggle.

by hornbloweroafc Fri 23 May 2014, 12:30 pm

Really enjoying Arrow, been much better than I was expecting!

Thea or 'Speedy' in the DC comics became Red Arrow in the comics so I'm guessing she will become a 'Villain' Red arrow thanks to Merlyn.

Looking forward to the 3rd season and be interesting to see which DC characters they bring in and how they use them. I like the way the characters don't really have 'super powers' and keep it a little more real.

by hodge Fri 23 May 2014, 12:43 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Have LOVED the last few episodes, absolutely superb stuff!!

They're the best there's been across both series'.

And nowwwwww we know how he got off that blinking island! (looking forward to more on that story though, nice little teaser)

Also, any comic book geeks out there know who Thea is clearly going to turn into.......? Thought she was a bit of a dick at the end, frankly.

Thing is it goes against the Season 1 intro to every episode about how he had a beard and had to attract a boat by lighting a big fire with a flaming arrow etc, so can see him ending up on the island again

by westisbest Fri 23 May 2014, 12:47 pm

hodge wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Have LOVED the last few episodes, absolutely superb stuff!!

They're the best there's been across both series'.

And nowwwwww we know how he got off that blinking island! (looking forward to more on that story though, nice little teaser)

Also, any comic book geeks out there know who Thea is clearly going to turn into.......? Thought she was a bit of a dick at the end, frankly.

Thing is it goes against the Season 1 intro to every episode about how he had a beard and had to attract a boat by lighting a big fire with a flaming arrow etc, so can see him ending up on the island again

Good point Hodge.

by Steel Fri 23 May 2014, 1:02 pm

Thea will most likely be Artemis from the comics of she comes back a villain

Roy is clearly becoming red arrow as he should

by westisbest Fri 23 May 2014, 1:20 pm

Just read your spoiler Nodge.

Some good stuff.

However I have never heard of any of the characters you mentioned, except The Flash.

Which is a good thing

Never read any of these comic books.

by westisbest Fri 23 May 2014, 1:24 pm

Sorry Hodge(didn't read that well).

by hornbloweroafc Fri 23 May 2014, 2:37 pm

Steel wrote:Thea will most likely be Artemis from the comics of she comes back a villain

Roy is clearly becoming red arrow as he should

Artemis - Good shout! Couldn't remember her name. Been watching Young Justice on Cartoon Network with my oldest lad (5 yrs old) recently and I think your right. They can play Thea very similar to Artemis in Young Justice (switching from good to evil and vice versa).

I think I enjoy watching Young Justice more than my son lol He's more of a fan of the marvel superheroes like Spiderman and the avengers.

by hodge Sat 24 May 2014, 2:00 pm

westisbest wrote:Just read your spoiler Nodge.

Some good stuff.

However I have never heard of any of the characters you mentioned, except The Flash.

Which is a good thing

Never read any of these comic books.

Overview of who I mentioned could be in season 3

Spoiler:

by westisbest Thu 25 Sep 2014, 1:44 pm

Does season 3 start next month?

by Brys Thu 25 Sep 2014, 1:50 pm

8th Oct is when it starts in the states. CW seems to have a later start to its schedule compared to the other four networks.

by hornbloweroafc Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:01 pm

I believe it will be on around the same time in UK (Sky One), looking forward to it.

Also Flash is starting same time and I read there will be cross over episode or two.

by Brys Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:30 pm

I'd imagine it will show up on Sky One around two weeks after it starts in the states.

by Brys Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:34 pm

Flash airs the 7th Oct in the states. Sky One have picked it up over here and you would assume will air it around the same time as they do Arrow.

Will be interesting to see how Flash does and how much leeway CW will give it ratings wise with its connection to Arrow. Especially considering Arrow is certain to get a 4th season.

by Brys Wed 08 Oct 2014, 4:57 pm

Meant to say in case anyone wasn't aware the Arrow will be on the 30th Oct and Flash will show on the 28th Oct in UK. Both will be on Sky One.

by westisbest Wed 08 Oct 2014, 5:10 pm

Cheers Brys.

Look forward to both.

by Bull Thu 09 Oct 2014, 6:41 pm

Freaking awesome!!

by **hampo17** Thu 09 Oct 2014, 7:10 pm

Just caught the first episode, awesome start.

Spoiler:

by Bull Thu 09 Oct 2014, 7:48 pm

Spoiler:

by **hampo17** Thu 09 Oct 2014, 8:58 pm

Spoiler:

by westisbest Sat 08 Nov 2014, 10:38 pm

Good first 2 episodes. Have enjoyed them

Good part in Hong Kong to.

Interesting to find out who killed sara.

by westisbest Fri 21 Nov 2014, 8:51 am

My god, Thea is looking much better this series, (not that she was bad before).

Decent episode last night.

by **hampo17** Fri 21 Nov 2014, 4:55 pm

I've been watching these online so I'm a bit further ahead of Sky One, I think next week is the cross over between The Flash and Arrow, basically a two parter. Superb series so far.

by nadeem2099 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 1:46 pm

I've missed the first two seasons but watched all the episodes so far of s3 and from what I've seen of it, it is more focused on character development rather than full on superpowered guys fighting each other. I like it!

by westisbest Fri 28 Nov 2014, 9:19 am

Wasn't to impressed with last night's episode.

Good bit though on Felicity's past.

I just cant take Roy seriously as the Red hood.

Laurel is now going to become some bad a55.

Thea though looking even hotter this episode.

by **hampo17** Thu 11 Dec 2014, 10:41 am

Watched the midseason finale earlier today, the guy playing Al Ghul is fantastic! He delivers his lines with a coldness that you come to expect from a character such as that.

by **Kenny** Fri 16 Jan 2015, 12:50 pm

its all gone a little weird for me

by westisbest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 12:52 pm

Kind of feel the same Kenny.

Did prefer it with just Olly, Diggle & Felicity.

Do enjoy it though.

by **Kenny** Fri 16 Jan 2015, 12:57 pm

still enjoying it and the Flash also , just think they are spreading the storys out a little thin and introducing to many characters

by Ent Sun 01 Feb 2015, 2:34 pm

Just catching up on this and flash - how many episodes of both did sky show before mid season finale?

I have 9 arrow and 8 flash season linked and think I'm missing some.

by **hampo17** Sun 01 Feb 2015, 2:38 pm

11 I think mate, post season break is really heating up in Arrow.

by Ent Sun 01 Feb 2015, 2:59 pm

11, series link is useless at times.

by Ent Sun 01 Feb 2015, 3:16 pm

Is that where the yanks are up to pre mid season break or what sky showed up to?

by **hampo17** Sun 01 Feb 2015, 3:31 pm

It's restarted in America two weeks ago, I'm watching it online.

by Ent Sun 01 Feb 2015, 4:14 pm

Sky have synopsis up to episode 9 for both on their website but 11 episodes listed (mid season break at 11 in USA as you said)..

Looks like I am missing one episode of flash.

by westisbest Tue 03 Feb 2015, 7:33 pm

This returns on the 12th.

Look forward to it's return

by Ent Tue 03 Feb 2015, 11:09 pm

Think I've managed to watch ahead in my attempts to catch up.

Glad it is back on thoigh.

by nadeem2099 Fri 13 Feb 2015, 1:44 pm

Hopefully there's a rematch between Raaz Al Ghul and the arrow.

by **hampo17** Thu 26 Feb 2015, 6:53 pm

Been watching this when it airs in the States and this weeks show was superb with a very good twist at the end. Not back on now until the 18th of March though.

by westisbest Thu 26 Feb 2015, 6:58 pm

Really. ffs, just come back from a break.

look forward to it later.

by **hampo17** Thu 26 Feb 2015, 7:00 pm

Yeah it's because CW have iZombie about to start and they want to give it a good chance with the ratings. Don't see what stopping a show that's on at a different time will make though.

by Brys Sat 28 Feb 2015, 9:23 am

I'd doubt it has anything really to do with iZombie which as you said won't be airing in Arrow's slot, plus the premiere date for iZombie is due 1 day prior to Arrow coming back from its month break.

It mostly comes down to simple math in regards breaks, America have their prime time season from Sept to May which is 40 weeks in total with a maximum season being these days at most 24 episodes. They need to take breaks at some point and as such will try to schedule them during public holidays where live audiences (Live 18-49 audience is what counts not viewers or people who DVR) might take a major hit anyway.

Other factors may be sporting events like March Madness as the networks think we need to take a break to get this show to finish in May and this is where we think we'd lose most viewers to sport anyway. There is also the Nielsen sweeps (Feb, May, July and Nov) months and nothing matters more than Nielsen ratings for the majority of channels.

by **hampo17** Sat 28 Feb 2015, 9:25 am

Only reason I thought it may be an issue is because that's why they've taken a break with The Flash, all seems a bit daft to be honest.

by Brys Sat 28 Feb 2015, 9:55 am

Well iZombie when it premieres will be getting the Flash as a lead in which suggests they wan't it to do well since Flash has the highest ratings on that network.

It really just comes down to this 40 week prime time season America has and they often want to start a show in Sept and end it in May. Nielsen ratings in the 18-49 (50+ people don't buy Poopie apparently or are dirt poor) demo are really all that matters for most networks as this effects ad revenue so the networks will base when breaks are taken round this and the other factors as I mentioned.

I think us British look at it and think its weird but its how they've been running there tv schedule for 40 years. I mean British shows tend to have 3-10 episode runs depending on the show which can often mean we have 8-10 months before the next season, the Americans due to their breaks only really ever have 3-4 months for most shows.

The three things that annoy me are how focused in everything is on ratings and since its all to do with ad revenue then recorded shows don't count (fast forward through ads). They are slowly looking at the DVR (SKY recording) issue but not fast enough for me. The 18-409 demo annoys me also, I can understand ignoring the under 18's as they rarely have disposable income but 50+ just seems weird to me to ignore in this day and age.

Lastly is how dependent American shows seem to be on lead-ins, surprisingly the avg American will be more likely to watch a new show if they liked the show that aired before it. The logic doesn't seem to be based around the lead in drawing extra numbers to the new show but rather people forgetting to change the channel and the next show getting inflated ratings from it. Sometimes why its worth looking at the half hour ratings and noticing the drop of in viewers as people come back from whatever they were doing after their last show and change the channel.

Edit: Just to add its sometimes why you hear the phrase "lead-in dependent" against new shows, as normally they will get a lead-in until coming back from Winter break and then they are tried without one to see if the ratings hold up or if the ratings were just because people were forgetting to change channel.

by westisbest Thu 05 Mar 2015, 3:47 pm

Its on tonight.

by westisbest Fri 20 Mar 2015, 8:07 am

Last couple of episodes have been pretty good i thought.

The flash backs are good, coming together now.

Laurel is looking hot again.

Felicity getting it on with superman.

Good stuff.

by **hampo17** Fri 20 Mar 2015, 10:45 am

It's just returned to the tv in America and you just expect stuff to go down.

Spoiler:

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