Blues vs Montpellier Post Match

3 - 0 to the Blues so far and patchell missed one from half way, just short...

Good game, blues looking good

Plaguele plugs one over the posts for a scrum penalty... 50m plus kick

3 -3

Cardiff Blues:

Jason Tovey, Alex Cuthbert , Gavin Evans, Dafydd Hewitt, Harry Robinson, Rhys Patchell, Lloyd Williams; Andries Pretorius (c), Robin Copeland, Josh Navidi, James Down, Lou Reed, Scott Andrews, Marc Breeze, Sam Hobbs


Replacements:
Rhys Wiliams, Tafa'ao Filise, Benoit Bourrust, Macauley Cook, Luke Hamilton , Lewis Jones, Ceri Sweeney, Owen Williams

6 -6 17 minutes gone...

Copeland continues to impress

Holly Wilaboobie for tat at the breakdown..

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Copeland continues to impress

He sure does...

Great tackle by Gavin Evans

Great pressure by the Blues, patchell and Tovey are doing well in the backs. Pressure equals penaltys.

Patchell about to have a shot

THe blues need to keep pressuring Fernandez at 10 for MP... He is dropping passes and catches all the time now.

Come on the blues. Playing well so far

No question a red there. Please don't try to defend it commentators.

LLoyd Williams red card for a spear tackle...

bugger

Blues were playing well

Lloyd Williams is an absolute idiot - drives a players head into the ground, CLEAR RED CARD.

I hope he never plays for the Blues again, let alone Wales.

Lloyd Williams costs the Blues another game, short of a 60 minute miracle.

drop goal patchell

12 - 9 to the blues

btw is Johnnie Beattie playing for Montpellier today? If he is could someone let us scots know how he's playing? He's kind of slipped off the radar playing in France and all, although I hear he recently earned a couple of MOTM awards so he cant be too bad...

Nice drop goal Patchell

Tovey is playing fullback in defence and scrumhalf in attack...

Rugby is becoming fking ridiculous

wales606 wrote:Blues were playing well

Lloyd Williams is an absolute idiot - drives a players head into the ground, CLEAR RED CARD.

I hope he never plays for the Blues again, let alone Wales.

Lloyd Williams costs the Blues another game, short of a 60 minute miracle.

I think that's a bt harsh. The lad needs to learn from this.

Good drop goal there from Patchell

What is it with the Blues in HC matches? We seem to lose it when we're actually playing okay, as Xavier did against the Saints.
Ergh.

On a lighter note good game so far from Patchell, hopefully see him in the Welsh set up in February.

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

wales606 wrote:Blues were playing well

Lloyd Williams is an absolute idiot - drives a players head into the ground, CLEAR RED CARD.

I hope he never plays for the Blues again, let alone Wales.

Lloyd Williams costs the Blues another game, short of a 60 minute miracle.

I think that's a bt harsh. The lad needs to learn from this.

Good drop goal there from Patchell

Ridiculously harsh 606... Lloyd Williams is not the reason the blues arent having a good season. He has been struggling by a beaten pack. That tackle wasnt intentional, it was an interpreted call on the laws by the ref.

MP penalised for feet off the ground... patchell gets the pen.. 15 - 16 almost HT

Chances of injury from that...?. Chances of injury from getting taken out in air?..usual sanction, pen or yellow. Chances on injury from collapsed scrum.....? usual sanction-nothing.
Granted I would like to see incident again, cos my picture isnt exactly HD but didnt look too bad.

Kingjohn,

If tackles like Williams' or Warburtons in the Semi of the RWC are to be awarded a sending off then so should taking out in the air and when jumping in the line out, as well as collapse scrums, shoulder barging at rucks.

All listed are more serious than what is currently seen as a very dangerous tackle

maestegmafia wrote:

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

wales606 wrote:Blues were playing well

Lloyd Williams is an absolute idiot - drives a players head into the ground, CLEAR RED CARD.

I hope he never plays for the Blues again, let alone Wales.

Lloyd Williams costs the Blues another game, short of a 60 minute miracle.

I think that's a bt harsh. The lad needs to learn from this.

Good drop goal there from Patchell

Ridiculously harsh 606... Lloyd Williams is not the reason the blues arent having a good season. He has been struggling by a beaten pack. That tackle wasnt intentional, it was an interpreted call on the laws by the ref.

He has been awful for over a year, even Lewis Jones is better, and that's saying something.

maestegmafia wrote:Kingjohn,

If tackles like Williams' or Warburtons in the Semi of the RWC are to be awarded a sending off then so should taking out in the air and when jumping in the line out, as well as collapse scrums, shoulder barging at rucks.

All listed are more serious than what is currently seen as a very dangerous tackle

Warburtons was questionable, but Lloyd Williams tackles was a clear red card - I knew it was going to be red as soon as it happened. I expect a 4-6 week ban, so at least the coaches will stop selecting brynmors little boy for a month or so.

maestegmafia wrote:Kingjohn,

If tackles like Williams' or Warburtons in the Semi of the RWC are to be awarded a sending off then so should taking out in the air and when jumping in the line out, as well as collapse scrums, shoulder barging at rucks.

All listed are more serious than what is currently seen as a very dangerous tackle

Dont think i made myself clear, I think we singing from same hymn sheet. I dont see how tackles like that are seen as SO dangerous and are now instant reds, yet the other incidents in my view are worse but are either yellows or nothing at all.

What are they talking about no red card. - 'tough on the Blues'.

Total tosh. Biased & incorrect views I'm afraid.

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:What are they talking about no red card. - 'tough on the Blues'.

Total tosh. Biased & incorrect views I'm afraid.

I agree, if any tackle is a red, that one was

On the plus side. I would be surprised not to see Patchell in the 6N squad if he continues how he has played at 10 this season (bar the second half last week)

wales606 wrote:On the plus side. I would be surprised not to see Patchell in the 6N squad if he continues how he has played at 10 this season (bar the second half last week)

Would be nice to get a look at him with a pack on front foot. Looks a solid kicker though.

Why is it biased? Is it not a legit topic for discussion, and it all comes down to personnel judgement. Just saw replay, he wraps his arms around the top half of his body,not low down so that he can be 'speared'. What are chances of getting a pro rugby player on their head(which he didnt) from that tackle? These guys dont weigh 50kgs. I agree that it did turn out dangerous(extremely unlucky) so a yellow imo.

Monster kick from Prince Harry

Great kick

kingjohn7 wrote:Why is it biased? Is it not a legit topic for discussion, and it all comes down to personnel judgement. Just saw replay, he wraps his arms around the top half of his body,not low down so that he can be 'speared'. What are chances of getting a pro rugby player on their head(which he didnt) from that tackle? These guys dont weigh 50kgs. I agree that it did turn out dangerous(extremely unlucky) so a yellow imo.

Law 10.4(j) reads: Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player’s feet are still off the ground such that the player’s head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play.

- The player is lifted and then forced or ‘speared’ into the ground (red card offence)

Clear cut red card. Elbows above shoulder & carried on down with movement. Upper body in contact with ground.
Ref is doing well.....

I don't know why they took Tovey off when he was playing well and covering well at FB, I would have taken Robinson off and had Tovey cover the wing more in defence.

Excellent kick from Patchell. His kicking, running and defence is all top draw.

wales606 wrote:Excellent kick from Patchell. His kicking, running and defence is all top draw.

Agreed. Patchell has played exceptionally well every time I've watched him play for the blues. How old is this lad?

19 I think

Yep, 19 and very calm

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

kingjohn7 wrote:Why is it biased? Is it not a legit topic for discussion, and it all comes down to personnel judgement. Just saw replay, he wraps his arms around the top half of his body,not low down so that he can be 'speared'. What are chances of getting a pro rugby player on their head(which he didnt) from that tackle? These guys dont weigh 50kgs. I agree that it did turn out dangerous(extremely unlucky) so a yellow imo.

Law 10.4(j) reads: Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player’s feet are still off the ground such that the player’s head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play.

- The player is lifted and then forced or ‘speared’ into the ground (red card offence)

Clear cut red card. Elbows above shoulder & carried on down with movement. Upper body in contact with ground.
Ref is doing well.....

I think John is right on saying it usually comes down to personal judgement/interpretation of the official.

I thought a bounce forward did count as a knock on?

Im not having a go at the ref or arguing what is in the law book(although every law is open to interpretation). Im saying in my view the laws are wrong.
Im sure on this topic people wont agree, but i do respect the idea of player safety being paramount so I guess I will just have to accept it.
Anyway getting whisked away by the missus, enjoy the game lads, its been good so far.

That's the second time I have seen Patchell catch a winger and bring him down, he has amazing pace for a no10 and he saves himself after throwing an intercept.

Just got in and can see a little red symbol by the blues score...

Who is the numpty???

He ran back to tackle the winger who had a clear run in, then moments later tackled the man the winger passed to.

This kid is going to be good.

kingjohn7 wrote:Im not having a go at the ref or arguing what is in the law book(although every law is open to interpretation). Im saying in my view the laws are wrong.
Im sure on this topic people wont agree, but i do respect the idea of player safety being paramount so I guess I will just have to accept it.
Anyway getting whisked away by the missus, enjoy the game lads, its been good so far.

thebluesmancometh wrote:Just got in and can see a little red symbol by the blues score...

Who is the numpty???

Lloyd "my daddy was good" Williams

kingjohn7 wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:Kingjohn,

If tackles like Williams' or Warburtons in the Semi of the RWC are to be awarded a sending off then so should taking out in the air and when jumping in the line out, as well as collapse scrums, shoulder barging at rucks.

All listed are more serious than what is currently seen as a very dangerous tackle

Dont think i made myself clear, I think we singing from same hymn sheet. I dont see how tackles like that are seen as SO dangerous and are now instant reds, yet the other incidents in my view are worse but are either yellows or nothing at all.

I agree 100% mate

14 men and still in the game at the 62nd minute... Credit to this Blues pack and Patchell