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Post by Hibbz Tue 11 Dec 2012, 8:14 pm

Which (if any) TV Channel is his fight is on?

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Post by School Project Tue 11 Dec 2012, 8:36 pm

Boxnation mate.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:40 pm

Wish the meaning of life was as easy to find out as that laughing

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Post by Hibbz Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:41 pm

Thanks Schooly.

Just a waffer thin mint?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 11 Dec 2012, 11:49 pm

the meaning of life is 21/12/12 so they say.

hope not, I've spent a bloody fortune on Christmas!

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Post by School Project Wed 12 Dec 2012, 12:12 am

No problem Hibbz.

I put money on the world ending on the 21st. The odds are good, just wondering how I can spend my winnings?

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Post by eddyfightfan Wed 12 Dec 2012, 12:58 pm

ill give ya better odds SP, just send me your bank details Wink

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 12 Dec 2012, 1:10 pm

Needs a comprehensive win here then another couple of good fights, Barker and Magee maybe, before stepping up to world level.

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Post by School Project Wed 12 Dec 2012, 4:57 pm

eddyfightfan wrote:ill give ya better odds SP, just send me your bank details Wink

Haha good to see you're still in the betting game Eddie! I'll PM you with the account numbers and my mortgage details - I was told to put my house on it :P

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Post by Guest Wed 12 Dec 2012, 5:44 pm

Needs a comprehensive win here then another couple of good fights, Barker and Magee maybe, before stepping up to world level.

Barker's MW and Magee isn't really World Class therefore hardly likely to test Groves. I'd prefer to see him in with someone like Bute

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Post by compelling and rich Wed 12 Dec 2012, 6:43 pm

not too sure a comprehensive win is on the cards, i mean that would mean a stoppage and we all know johnson is tough and only ever been stopped once, wide UD is the best i can see, decent enough test for groves i reckon, johnson has taken bute to points and froch to a MD recently and still packs a dig

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Post by davidemore Wed 12 Dec 2012, 6:46 pm

Groves by KO, Johnson wont like the cold weather, he a Miami man.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 12 Dec 2012, 7:10 pm

Johnson looked very very old in his last fight back in July against an unknown fighter when he gassed after the 6th round and he retired afterwards. Bute didn't lose a round against him and while he started well vs Froch he lost every round after round 8

It's a 12 rounder and not a 10 rounder like Glens last fight where he couldn't keep the pace, so I fell that Groves might be able to get the stoppage. However, Johnson can still punch and Groves still looks vulnerable to me, so if Glen can get him than groves may go down, but I don't think glen is quick enough to land hard shots

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Post by captain carrantuohil Wed 12 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

You don't think that Sheffield in November and February, where Johnson fought Woods with the results of a win and a draw, were cold enough for Johnson, then?

Back in the real world, decision to Groves looks fair enough, but we'll only know what Glen has left when the bell goes. WHU's point about Johnson's stamina is relevant here - George's workrate is one of his best attributes, and it should find Glen out eventually.

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Post by compelling and rich Wed 12 Dec 2012, 7:21 pm

i hadnt seen johnsens last couple after froch so my info is abit dated, the one who fought froch is a decent test for groves. for me the only way groves wins by stoppage is if the ref jumps in early, and considering its in a british ring theres a good chance it may well happen!

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 12 Dec 2012, 8:08 pm

I think Johnson has slipped a lot since Froch and that was visible too with the Bute fight

His last fight he was competitive but he couldn't put any attacks together or sustain any attacks and the guy he fought wasn't nearly as good as Groves

The Johnson who fought Froch would have beaten Groves as groves wouldn't have been able to take the shots Carl did and Groves isnt the hardest to land on

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed 12 Dec 2012, 9:38 pm

Today is 12/12/12

Mark my words this day please.

George Groves will lOSE.

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Post by sweethook Wed 12 Dec 2012, 10:16 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Today is 12/12/12

Mark my words this day please.

George Groves will lOSE.

The likelihood of him going 50-0-0 isn't exactly a massive odds on favourite though, is it?

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:37 am

Johnson being competetive against Froch was more down to Froch putting in one of his worst performances in ages than Johnson having more left at the time. In my mighty opinion.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:31 am

DAVE667 wrote:Needs a comprehensive win here then another couple of good fights, Barker and Magee maybe, before stepping up to world level.

Barker's MW and Magee isn't really World Class therefore hardly likely to test Groves. I'd prefer to see him in with someone like Bute

Sorry, must've read Barker's name in a SMW list somewhere. Think Bute would be too much too quick though for a guy with only 15 or so fights. Always have it in my head that 18 fights is about right to be challenging at world level.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:34 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:The Johnson who fought Froch would have beaten Groves as groves wouldn't have been able to take the shots Carl did and Groves isnt the hardest to land on

Not sure that's a fair comparison to make, as Groves wouldn't be the Froch that fought Johnson. Groves is good at fighting to a gameplan and understanding his weaknesses - his chin, for example. He know's he's not made of Froch's granite so he would fight a totally different, more elusive, style. Not hanging his chin out like Carl.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:36 am

Should he really be fighting an old man in Johnson.....??

1. Johnson is looking for one last payday in all probability.....

2. He's well past it.

3. It's the same old Warren carp...An ex world champion who beat A back in the day...So it's a great win over a legend should groves win!!!!

The fight is pointless and Groves is just treading water stuck in the wilderness on Boxnation.....

Do yourself a favor Grovesy...dump the clown, and start fighting on channels where more than the usual crowd of a Bognor regis soccer game will see you!!

because Mate your next opponent is Mike mccallum.......He's a former legend...

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:32 am

What are Groves' options re promotors?
Frank Maloney? More concerned with David Price
Fat Mick? Pushing Tyson Fury...Nuff sed
Eddie Hearn? He's gonna be more focused on the likes of Froch and Brook for the foreseeable future however, despite Hearns' recent comments that Groves would be at risk of injury facing Froch, I think he offers Groves the brightest future. Hearn is growing on me as the months go by.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:01 am

I think Hearn is terrific for the British game, pretty much seems as honest and upfront about things as a promoter can get.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:06 am

Alex..you've got a great sense of humor..

Great for the Luxembourg game too huh..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:20 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Alex..you've got a great sense of humor..

Great for the Luxembourg game too huh..

Eh? What's the link between Hearn and Luxembourg?

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Post by Steffan Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:32 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:I think Hearn is terrific for the British game, pretty much seems as honest and upfront about things as a promoter can get
Do you work for Matchroom by any chance?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Alex..you've got a great sense of humor..
Made me chuckle as well Truss

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:36 am

Sorry thought he wrote.... Warren

my mistake...

Hearn does seem to be a real fight fan though..in fairness

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Post by two_tone Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:41 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:The Johnson who fought Froch would have beaten Groves as groves wouldn't have been able to take the shots Carl did and Groves isnt the hardest to land on

Not sure that's a fair comparison to make, as Groves wouldn't be the Froch that fought Johnson. Groves is good at fighting to a gameplan and understanding his weaknesses - his chin, for example. He know's he's not made of Froch's granite so he would fight a totally different, more elusive, style. Not hanging his chin out like Carl.

His last fight had some ABC Super Middle Interim Silver International Regular belt on the line so it could be either a cameo or he is trying his luck higher up after the loss to Martinez. If thats the case a fight with Groves could be interesting, whether Hearn and Fish Head can agree on terms is another thing though.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:00 pm

Agree. I like Hearn. His comment after the Yafai fight made me laugh. "Pull a bit of crumpet".

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Post by Bartley Gorman Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:25 pm

Steffan wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:I think Hearn is terrific for the British game, pretty much seems as honest and upfront about things as a promoter can get
Do you work for Matchroom by any chance?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Alex..you've got a great sense of humor..
Made me chuckle as well Truss

Dont understand your point. I think he's fantastic for British boxing. Can you expand on why you hold a contrary view?

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Post by superflyweight Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:33 pm

Bartley Gorman wrote:
Steffan wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:I think Hearn is terrific for the British game, pretty much seems as honest and upfront about things as a promoter can get
Do you work for Matchroom by any chance?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Alex..you've got a great sense of humor..
Made me chuckle as well Truss

Dont understand your point. I think he's fantastic for British boxing. Can you expand on why you hold a contrary view?

No doubt Hearn made some vaguely disparaging remark once about either (a) Wales, (b) the Welsh, or (c) someone who once visited Wales and quite liked it.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:34 pm

Because he promotes Tony Bellew (who is a rival to Nathan Cleverly, who is Welsh, so therefore Steffan hates Bellew) and also because he he promotes Froch (who called out and is sometimes compared to Joe Calzaghe, who is Welsh, so therefore Steffan hates Froch).
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Post by two_tone Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:34 pm

Could be Steffany's time of the month?

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Post by Bartley Gorman Thu 13 Dec 2012, 12:38 pm

Haha, i wasnt aware of this strong welsh allegiance. Now it all makes perfect sense!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:01 pm

88Chris05 wrote: Joe Calzaghe, who is Welsh

But born in Hammersmith to an Italian father and Welsh mother. So in reality he is English, followed by Italian, with just a teeny weeny bit of Taff in him.

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:11 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote: Joe Calzaghe, who is Welsh

But born in Hammersmith to an Italian father and Welsh mother. So in reality he is English, followed by Italian, with just a teeny weeny bit of Taff in him.

Brace yourself for a vitriolic response, Tina. Unless Steffan's already put his foot through his computer screen and stomped his keyboard in to dust, that is.
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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:18 pm

88Chris05 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote: Joe Calzaghe, who is Welsh

But born in Hammersmith to an Italian father and Welsh mother. So in reality he is English, followed by Italian, with just a teeny weeny bit of Taff in him.

Brace yourself for a vitriolic response, Tina. Unless Steffan's already put his foot through his computer screen and stomped his keyboard in to dust, that is.

now we know who waingro is tino, good work

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:22 pm

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now we know who waingro is tino, good work


I've long had my suspicions that Chris is waingro, shah.

Appalling grammar, propensity for stating the obvious and complete lack of boxing knowledge.

The evidence is overwhelming.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:26 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:

now we know who waingro is tino, good work


I've long had my suspicions that Chris is waingro, shah.

Appalling grammar, propensity for stating the obvious and complete lack of boxing knowledge.

The evidence is overwhelming.

Liike rowley am beginning to miss the little Bar Steward, he was the only on who could make azania lose his nut

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

Joe Calzaghe is annoying me more in retirement then when he was active. Anyone see that disgraceful hat he was sporting on Saturday. He has the fashion sense of an uncool 19 year old.

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Post by tunes666 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:29 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Today is 12/12/12

Mark my words this day please.

George Groves will lOSE.
Not a chance, he is shot, while his experience might frustrate Groves a little, Groves will win. While he is durable I think its a case of it Groves can stop him, I see him stopping him in the 6th rnd.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:41 pm

88Chris05 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote: Joe Calzaghe, who is Welsh

But born in Hammersmith to an Italian father and Welsh mother. So in reality he is English, followed by Italian, with just a teeny weeny bit of Taff in him.

Brace yourself for a vitriolic response, Tina. Unless Steffan's already put his foot through his computer screen and stomped his keyboard in to dust, that is.

Welsh doesn't even exist as a legally definable nationality. He is British, or of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be more precise.

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Post by Steffan Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:39 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote: Joe Calzaghe, who is Welsh

But born in Hammersmith to an Italian father and Welsh mother. So in reality he is English, followed by Italian, with just a teeny weeny bit of Taff in him.

Brace yourself for a vitriolic response, Tina. Unless Steffan's already put his foot through his computer screen and stomped his keyboard in to dust, that is.

Welsh doesn't even exist as a legally definable nationality. He is British, or of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be more precise.
I must admit these usual taunts trying to wind me up are to be expected from the usual keyboard warriors but when a moderator gets involved it really does show how far the "gang up on someone" culture in this forum goes

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:42 pm

Steffan wrote:
I must admit these usual taunts trying to wind me up are to be expected from the usual keyboard warriors but when a moderator gets involved it really does show how far the "gang up on someone" culture in this forum goes

Oooh get her.

Come on guys, lets duff up the Welshy.

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Post by Steffan Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:43 pm

two_tone wrote:Could be Steffany's time of the month?
Yeah but your girlfriend still lets Steffany do the business even when its his rag week Ok!

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Post by Steffan Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:44 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Steffan wrote:
I must admit these usual taunts trying to wind me up are to be expected from the usual keyboard warriors but when a moderator gets involved it really does show how far the "gang up on someone" culture in this forum goes

Oooh get her.

Come on guys, lets duff up the Welshy.
The only thing you ever beat up is your misses warning

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:46 pm

Steffan wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Steffan wrote:
I must admit these usual taunts trying to wind me up are to be expected from the usual keyboard warriors but when a moderator gets involved it really does show how far the "gang up on someone" culture in this forum goes

Oooh get her.

Come on guys, lets duff up the Welshy.
The only thing you ever beat up is your misses warning

To be fair if mine looked like that i.d probably do it too.

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Post by Steffan Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:48 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Steffan wrote:
I must admit these usual taunts trying to wind me up are to be expected from the usual keyboard warriors but when a moderator gets involved it really does show how far the "gang up on someone" culture in this forum goes

Oooh get her.

Come on guys, lets duff up the Welshy.
The only thing you ever beat up is your misses warning

To be fair if mine looked like that i.d probably do it too.
9 or 10 pinter? Or are we talking top shelf as well kinda job here?

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Dec 2012, 2:51 pm

She can't be that ugly Steffie. You claimed to have fathered one of my kids a while back.

I have always wondered why one of them needs special help at school.

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