Champions League Draw for Last 16

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Galatasaray v Schalke

Celtic v Juventus

Arsenal v Bayern Munich

Shakhtar Donetsk v Borussia Dortmund

AC Milan v Barcelona

Real Madrid v Manchester United

Valencia v Paris St Germain

Porto v Malaga

haha henman bill you have no idea. if any team was going to win in madrid it was united, they had much better of the chances

as luka scores.. still dont miss him

2-1 madrid - Ronaldo

united need 2 goals

fk dat.

good respect from ronaldo mind.

isn't this the same ref who took charge of the second leg of the Chelsea Barcelona tie last year? if so any United fans have my deepest sympathies. I thought it was a high foot and he has caught him, it could just about be a yellow card, but red?!?! no flippin way.

And there goes the tie, it's a shame that a ref can so crave the spotlight that he influences what was set up to be a great CL tie...

"If Madrid score again in a minute"

I don't have a crystal ball honest...

united have been robbed here and i think alot of people are probably laughing right now

Rooney? Why not? Isn't on yet is he?

Wow if I was ferguson I'd kil that ref right now

united need 2 goals..

or out..

Pepe is a Kumquat

Eh Rafael also handballed a shot on the line

Henman Bill wrote:Rooney? Why not? Isn't on yet is he?

Another good prediction!

GSC wrote:Eh Rafael also handballed a shot on the line

^ this everyone going on about Nani , Rafael should of been off and a penalty 5 mins after that why i have no sympathy for united despite Nani never being a red at all just incompetent performance from the ref all round.

If Real Madrid win tonight isn't that their 3rd consecutive champions league knock out win against Man U. Bit of luck tonight but also confirms who is the bigger club.

bigger means different things..

better - perhaps.. bigger, not really

Also, things do seem to have changed from the years England had 3 of the semi finalists. Did that happen twice?

mystiroakey wrote:bigger means different things..

better - perhaps.. bigger, not really

Maybe you're right, if you're talking about Asian and African fans and merchandising and so on. That's not what I was really thinking about though. I was thinking about number of European cups and head to head.

of course Chelsea held out at the Nou Camp for an hour with 10 men

doesn't change the fact the tie has been badly affected by a fairly ridiculous decision though, shame.

If Real Madrid win tonight that for me confirms them as the #2 club in Europe and perhaps the world..

Need to invoke the spirit of 99.. late goals and miracles and never say die..long shot though...

man u's chance to get back into the tie, right there. Doubt they'll get another...

If you can get 1 goal the second can follow quickly, even if you score after 88, 89 mins the first one..chances going begging though...

they promptly get two more great chances in the space of 30 seconds, dreadful miss by Rooney. Too wasteful

I'm just disappointed that a huge game has been decided by completely incompetant refereeing again.

It's beyond the joke how bad they are.

Olly wrote:I'm just disappointed that a huge game has been decided by completely incompetant refereeing again.

It's beyond the joke how bad corrupt they are.

fixed that for you

Time for the cricket i feel..

Well tried united!

once again Rooney goes missing in a big game...

Blatant play acting. If I was the ref I'd add double the time. Let's see how many minutes come up. If it's 3 it's a victory for time wasting...oh 5, fair enough then.

good shout!

Oh dear, we've reache the point where the world is against England.

it appears under the flapping at corners is a top class keeper at saving in Diego Lopez

great, great effort from Ronaldo there

Blatant pen there

My final verdict would be that both sides had lucky breaks but Real Madrid had the key one in their favour. Debatable, but I think Man U were unlucky here.

I think Mourinho might even admit as much.

Bit distasteful post match from United. Not that I woul eve expect anything more

a ruined game..

thats the way it is though. it wasnt reals fault. well played to them - they took advantage - and thats what they had to do..

gutted for united though..

no teams into the next round for the pl..

random!!

lets hope its not the start of a decline

Ref screwed united over simple, united wher win control and the ref effectively changed the game

GSC wrote:Bit distasteful post match from United. Not that I woul eve expect anything more

It's not like Rio Ferdinand to act a Tinkywinky is it?

think real knew theyd been handed the win there with that Tinkywinky modric the only one really celebrating. ferdinand wanted to slit the refs neck there, post match interviews will be entertaining

Oh come on. Yes the ref was crap. He also let Rafael handball a shot on the line at 1-0 thats a goal otherwise.

not sure how you figure that cherries Rafael should of been off if anything United got off lighter then they should of.

Red Card > Red Card + Penalty

Fernando wrote:it appears under the flapping at corners is a top class keeper at saving in Diego Lopez

Your typical Spanish GK mate

My thoughts:

Utd were better than Madrid all game, aside from those 10 minutes where they scored twice in two/three minutes. Vidic + Ferdinand were excellent and Giggs was the best player on the park. But well done to Madrid, they did well enough.

As for Nani, he got what he deserved for a stupid, unnecessary boot and I never want to see him again.

Rafeall wans t ared card it was unintentional

Well done UEFA. Cheated another English side out of the Champions League. Disgusting.

By the way, having a go at the ref, in some respects, is not the right, or at least not the constructive attitude. Instead of saying "the referee's a *****" (the response of a fool) we should be saying "Why do we pay refs a pittance compared to the players, treat them with **** all respect, blame them when it goes wrong, minimal credit when it goes right, ...and then act surprised when the talent goes elsewhere?" It's inevitable, the problem is in the culture of the game and the lack of respect for authority.

I'm not going to debate whether it was a red or not, all I can say is if you do something that stupid as to give the ref a reason to think about a red then you get what you deserve. Funnily enough, any other player and I'd be fuming but if it gets rid of Nani I don't care.

Duty281 wrote:Well done UEFA. Cheated another English side out of the Champions League. Disgusting.

Ok, this is more embarrassing than United postmatch. Rafael gets away with a stonewall penalty that has a strong case for a red. No mention of this surprisingly.

Referees need more respect and higher pay to attract ex players and other talent into the positions. I mean, as armchair fans we can make better judgements than the ref, something is not right.