How vintage was your year?

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Inspired by Truss's 1982 year of the invincibles thread and in the absence of Union who loves this kind of thing, here is a bit of fun that may, or may not, take off. It does involve a wee bit of work and disclosing how old you are, but who were the champions of the 8 original weight classes as of your date of birth. The WBC/WBA split in the early 1960's can cause a bit of grief depending on how old you are, so in that instance, and where there isn't a unified champion, just pick which of the champions you feel is the best.

We can see who was born in the best year.....

Here goes for me (5.11.1977)

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali
Light Heavyweight: Victor Galindez
Middleweight: Rodrigo Valdez
Welterweight: Carlos Palomino
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Featherweight: Danny Lopez
Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate
Flyweight: Miguel Canto

Not too shabby a list, and considering I missed out on Monzon at Middleweight by only a couple of months, I am definitely a contender.

Over to you.....

Have you ever been divorced Shah ???????

Or are you a glutton for punishment..

Just had a bit of a look at my guys record Tina, he makes Calzaghe look well travelled.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Aaron Pryor for me, think i'm happy with that.

Me too!!

I'm shut away in the study, pleading pressure of work, milky. It may be that understanding is beginning to dawn on her, yes...

4 page thread - this really is your crowning glory Tino!!

Your wife is a kickboxer...

Put Bowe vs Tillery on and treat her!!

Rowley wrote:Just had a bit of a look at my guys record Tina, he makes Calzaghe look well travelled.

Aye, he must have loved Mamma's pasta.

Still, he does hold a win over the wonderfully named Kid Rainbow.

Ghosty is walking it with the LWW's.

TopHat24/7 wrote:4 page thread - this really is your crowning glory Tino!!

Not sure it makes up fror the heartache of the combined total of about 20 replies on 4 Real Boxing Heroes threads, TopHat!

Buddy McGirt at Light-Welter for me, not that it'll make a blind bit of difference.

88Chris05 wrote:Buddy McGirt at Light-Welter for me, not that it'll make a blind bit of difference.

The maudlin tones of a man resigned to his fate!

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:4 page thread - this really is your crowning glory Tino!!

Not sure it makes up fror the heartache of the combined total of about 20 replies on 4 Real Boxing Heroes threads, TopHat!

These things are sent to try us Tina, it also means you're allowed to do a shamelessly populist one without anyone judging you too harshly. I had my Lennox Lewis - Convince me thread, you can do a Mike Tyson is the Greatest ever FACT or Froch>Calzaghe discuss thread whenever you want.

Truss has got Locche, I think, Tino, if his gerrymandering hasn't already brought about an immediate DQ for him.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Rowley wrote:Just had a bit of a look at my guys record Tina, he makes Calzaghe look well travelled.

Aye, he must have loved Mamma's pasta.

Still, he does hold a win over the wonderfully named Kid Rainbow.

Ghosty and TopHat are is walking it with the LWW's.

Ahem..!

captain carrantuohil wrote:Truss has got Locche, I think, Tino, if his gerrymandering hasn't already brought about an immediate DQ for him.

I will give him a chance, Captain. Everyone derserves at least one.

Does Locche trump Pryor? Interesting one.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Rowley wrote:Just had a bit of a look at my guys record Tina, he makes Calzaghe look well travelled.

Aye, he must have loved Mamma's pasta.

Still, he does hold a win over the wonderfully named Kid Rainbow.

Ghosty and TopHat are is walking it with the LWW's.

Ahem..!

Yep, apologies TopHat. Duly noted!

Rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:4 page thread - this really is your crowning glory Tino!!

Not sure it makes up fror the heartache of the combined total of about 20 replies on 4 Real Boxing Heroes threads, TopHat!

These things are sent to try us Tina, it also means you're allowed to do a shamelessly populist one without anyone judging you too harshly. I had my Lennox Lewis - Convince me thread, you can do a Mike Tyson is the Greatest ever FACT or Froch>Calzaghe discuss thread whenever you want.

I tried that with my Mayweather and Pacquiao thread just before Christmas Jeff. It still barely scraped into double figures.

It's alright though, the Eugene Bullard story is gonna drop like a bomb when it hits the forum.

Now isn't that a fight you'd love to see? Can you imagine Pryor's face when Locche started with the Chaplin routine? Watch the steam rise from The Hawk's feathers. Locche WDQ 10 is my best guess.

captain carrantuohil wrote:Now isn't that a fight you'd love to see? Can you imagine Pryor's face when Locche started with the Chaplin routine? Watch the steam rise from The Hawk's feathers. Locche WDQ 10 is my best guess.

Aye, I can see Locche fiddling him around till him implodes. UD for Nicolino. Especially if he can get Pryor over to Buenos Aires.

Takeshi Fuji is my man, must be good as he knocked out mr lopopolo. Funnily enough captain I believe he lost the title quitting in frustration against locche

Seems to be quite a remarkable number of toyboy posters on here. Is there a correlation between spending hours nerding through boxing books/Scouring web pages... And an inability to pull anything your own age? Or were all you dustin hoffman's seduced by your Anne bancrofts

captain carrantuohil wrote:Now isn't that a fight you'd love to see? Can you imagine Pryor's face when Locche started with the Chaplin routine? Watch the steam rise from The Hawk's feathers. Locche WDQ 10 is my best guess.

A moot point, captain, as McGirt would have rolled over both of them on the same night. As a side note, I've always fancied Starling against Leonard and Fenech over Sanchez.

Not that I'm desperately trying to make my year look stronger than it was or anything, of course!

milkyboy wrote:Takeshi Fuji is my man, must be good as he knocked out mr lopopolo. Funnily enough captain I believe he lost the title quitting in frustration against locche

Seems to be quite a remarkable number of toyboy posters on here. Is there a correlation between spending hours nerding through boxing books/Scouring web pages... And an inability to pull anything your own age? Or were all you dustin hoffman's seduced by your Anne bancrofts

Still doesn't compete with Ghosty, Truss and TopHat, milky. Doesn't even compete with my Cervantes effort!

I just lied about my age, mate. By the time she realised what a buffoon I was it was too late!

Mrs C is the only woman (slightly) younger than me with whom I have ever dallied, milky. The rest of your suspicion is doubtless well founded.

milkyboy wrote:Seems to be quite a remarkable number of toyboy posters on here. Is there a correlation between spending hours nerding through boxing books/Scouring web pages... And an inability to pull anything your own age? Or were all you dustin hoffman's seduced by your Anne bancrofts

I think it's more just to do with the fact that I've got a craggy, weathered old face of someone much older and a Melrewesque dislike of all that rubbish music in the charts these days, Milky. Born after my time!

Takeshi Fuji.......

Sounds like he should be fighting Godzilla with a name like that..

I think Boxtthis still takes it personally....

Boxtthis wrote:Mine's a stormer. Got to be the winner (I did more than the main 8 because there were so many good ones)!

02/11/82:

HW - Larry Holmes (and Michael Dokes)
LHW - Michael Spinks/Dwight Muhammad Qawi
MW - Marvin Hagler
LMW - Thomas Hearns (and Davey Moore)
WW - Sugar Ray Leonard
LWW - Aaron Pryor (and Leroy Haley)
LW - Alexis Argüello (and Ray Mancini)
FW - Eusebio Pedroza (and Juan LaPorte)
JFW - Wilfredo Gómez (and Leonardo Cruz)
BW - Lupe Pintor (and Jeff Chandler)
SFlW - Chul-Ho Kim/Jiro Watanabe
FlW - Santos Laciar (and Freddy Castillo)

There's something in it... Even our all American beefcake found his true love at a grab a granny night. Always gone for the younger lady myself... I find them more gullible and less discerning

You can't beat a good older woman.. (Believe me I've tried she's hard to hit!)

To open your eyes.... and to nurture you in a foreign Country and get you acquainted with the English way of life!!!

Man I feel HOMESICK!!!!

TopHat24/7 wrote:I think Boxtthis still takes it personally....

Boxtthis wrote:Mine's a stormer. Got to be the winner (I did more than the main 8 because there were so many good ones)!

02/11/82:

HW - Larry Holmes (and Michael Dokes)
LHW - Michael Spinks/Dwight Muhammad Qawi
MW - Marvin Hagler
LMW - Thomas Hearns (and Davey Moore)
WW - Sugar Ray Leonard
LWW - Aaron Pryor (and Leroy Haley)
LW - Alexis Argüello (and Ray Mancini)
FW - Eusebio Pedroza (and Juan LaPorte)
JFW - Wilfredo Gómez (and Leonardo Cruz)
BW - Lupe Pintor (and Jeff Chandler)
SFlW - Chul-Ho Kim/Jiro Watanabe
FlW - Santos Laciar (and Freddy Castillo)

Aye, agreed. It is saying something about the strength of '82 when Aaron Pryor is not a standout pick.

Unless anything drastic happened in the space of 12 days think my missus ends up with exactly the same list as me.

88Chris05 wrote:

milkyboy wrote:Seems to be quite a remarkable number of toyboy posters on here. Is there a correlation between spending hours nerding through boxing books/Scouring web pages... And an inability to pull anything your own age? Or were all you dustin hoffman's seduced by your Anne bancrofts

I think it's more just to do with the fact that I've got a craggy, weathered old face of someone much older and a Melrewesque dislike of all that rubbish music in the charts these days, Milky. Born after my time!

How do you get a weathered face Chris. Are you homeless with a waterproof iPad?

The bartender at the Oyster has the same list as you too...Ghosty!!

What a coincidence....

You Brits don't know what a weathered face is..

Try living in Boston at Wintertime......Puts the STER in BEEFSTER!!!

I can tell you......

Not sure, Milky. You know how in every school year there's always 'that guy' with a beard, a chest prematurely hairy enough to pass for a doormat who looks years older than he is and, hence, is always the one who has to go in to the local shop at the request of his mates to try and con the shopkeeper in to thinking they're eighteen, so that he'll sell him a bottle of Vodka (usually thrown away after about five sips between us once we all realised we couldn't hold a pint of lager between us at fourteen)? Well, I was 'that guy.'

When I was sixteen someone told me I looked like Father Ted. I kid you not. Pretty hurtful!

An early bid for thread of the year after all, Tino. Enjoyed it greatly.

Night all.

Your lucky Me and my brother had to look 21..............

If its any consolation Chris, in our group of mates, the old looking balding one is the only one who hasn't changed much. Don't suppose it's much consolation.

Truss I bought a ski/golf apartment in tremblant a few years back. First days skiing, - 25, dropped to - 35 overnight. I know what cold is. Sold the apartment at the first opportunity.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Your lucky Me and my brother had to look 21..............

Nah, tis overrated for me, Truss. I didn't get drunk to the point of sickness until I was sixteen which, judging by most people I know, makes me a bit of a late starter in this modern age!

captain carrantuohil wrote:An early bid for thread of the year after all, Tino. Enjoyed it greatly.

Night all.

Thanks Sir. And thanks for the umpiring services. I genuinely expected only a few replies but it has thrown up some excellent debate and cracking lists.

Good stuff and thanks to all who contributed.

I am off to bed myself, no doubt to woken up shortly by any one of the kids who has either wet the bed, needs a drink or has had a bad dream.

Night all.

milkyboy wrote:If its any consolation Chris, in our group of mates, the old looking balding one is the only one who hasn't changed much. Don't suppose it's much consolation.

Less of the balding talk, Milky - I've still got a lush forest of jet black to boast, thank you very much. Not too badly placed to keep it if my dad and graddad are anything to go by.

Few white ones creeping in at the temples, mind you!

Aug 82
Hw Holmes
Lhw qwai
Mw hagler
Ww Leonard
Lw arguello
Fw Sanchez
Bw vacant
Fw Castillo

Was doing well til vacant. I'll take it though.

1st January 1984

H – Larry Holmes
LH – Michael Spinks
M – Marvin Hagler
W – Donald Curry
LW – Edwin Roasrio
Feather – Eusebio Pedroza
B – Jeff Chandler
Fly – Santos Laciar

Not too shabby.

Prior as well for my lww

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Your lucky Me and my brother had to look 21..............

Knew a girl a couple of years back who was on an exchange year from her U.S college to my uni, we were out for a drink one night and despite being 20, she used a fake ID, messed with my head for months that did.

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Your lucky Me and my brother had to look 21..............

Knew a girl a couple of years back who was on an exchange year from her U.S college to my uni, we were out for a drink one night and despite being 20, she used a fake ID, messed with my head for months that did.

Particularly strange behaviour given that its almost impossible not to get served in a Dundee pub. I was a fairly fresh faced 15 year old and regularly managed to get served in three different pubs (Deacon Brodies, the Balcony Bar, and MacDaniels). Terrible pubs, but hey, I felt like Rod Stewart!

Not many British fighters in people's lists, but I'am about to change that with this fantastic line up :

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali
Light Heavyweight: John Conteh
Middleweight: Carlos Monzon
Welterweight: John H Stracey
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Featherweight: Alexis Arguello
Bantamweight: Rodolfo Martinez / Alfonso Zamora
Flyweight: Miguel Canto / Alfonso Lopez

As we are only using the original eight classes, has there ever been a stronger British contingent?

Union Cane wrote:
As we are only using the original eight classes, has there ever been a stronger British contingent?

No, certainly no-one has declared a better British list yet, Union. Still doesn't come close to toppling Boxtthis but a good effort.

I have a signed boxing glove from John H Stracey at home. I met him at the York Hall. Lovely man.

1980 would have been good for the British contingent, in that you could have had Minter and Watt in your list, with Maurice Hope in light-middleweight support.

captain carrantuohil wrote:1980 would have been good for the british contingent, in that you could have had Minter and Watt in your list, with Maurice Hope in light-middleweight support.

1999 would be slightly above average. You could have Lennox Lewis and Naseem Hamed. Not sure how many 14 year old posters we have though.

captain carrantuohil wrote:1980 would have been good for the british contingent, in that you could have had Minter and Watt in your list, with Maurice Hope in light-middleweight support.

Il Gialloblu wrote:Heavyweight: Larry Holmes
Light Heavyweight: Matthew Saad Muhammad
Middleweight: Alan Minter
Welterweight: Roberto Duran
Lightweight: Jim Watt
Featherweight: Samuel Serrano
Bantamweight: Lupe Pintor
Flyweight: Shoji Oguma

Conteh vs Minter

Stracey vs Watt

My list is stronger.