2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 3

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

by Lumbering_Jack Wed 23 Jan 2013, 8:43 pm

Demba Ba has turned into a cheating scum bag. Chelsea chiefs obviously want to promote a diving culture as he never behaved like this at Newcastle.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:26 pm

Not strictly pl but what a joke that red card was, the ball boy deserved a hiding.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:28 pm

I've been kicked in the chest playing in goal numerous times. Never rolled around on the floor like that.

Hazard shouldn't have kicked him, ball boy shouldn't have been a pillock

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:29 pm

He didnt kick him he poked the ball out from under him, what an absolute joke.

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:29 pm

You can't go around kicking children. If its 3 games hes lucky

by The Special Juan Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:30 pm

"lol"

by Fernando Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:30 pm

Hazard didn't even need to be involved there Ent so completely deserved.

Hazard has no grounds for complaints

by Lumbering_Jack Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:30 pm

Agree, never a red card but Hazard should try and act like the adult.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:32 pm

You also can't prevent the ball being returned to play.

Lads got a budding future in football with simulAtion skills like that.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:33 pm

He's allowed to retrieve the ball, ironically the ball boys aren't meant to go near the players if they go to retrieve the ball, never mind obstructing them from getting the ball.

by Fernando Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:34 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Agree, never a red card but Hazard should try and act like the adult.

It's a red card all day long you can't kick anyone. players/ref/staff/spectators/ballboys

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:36 pm

Oh come on. Regardless of how the ballboy acted you can't kick out at a child.

Obvious red card

by Gregers Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:36 pm

It is a red but the ball boy shouldn't have had a little lie down on top of the ball.

Even though I grew up a Chelsea fan I have to say that Swansea are fast becoming the side o enjoy watching the most in the prem.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:38 pm

Fernando wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:Agree, never a red card but Hazard should try and act like the adult.

It's a red card all day long you can't kick anyone. players/ref/staff/spectators/ballboys

If a player had been lying on the ball like that and it was poked free in such a manner it wouldn't have even been a foul.

Had the lad just stood up the goal kick just would have been taken and play would have continued.

It's an absolute joke, backs against the wall? Just have your ball boy take a dive...

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:39 pm

GSC wrote:Oh come on. Regardless of how the ballboy acted you can't kick out at a child.

Obvious red card

He kicked the ball, it came out the other side- you really think he just swung a boot at him?

The lad was barely brushed, pathetic.

by The Special Juan Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:40 pm

"Have you been injured in an accident at work that wasn't your fault?"

by Gregers Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:41 pm

The Special Juan wrote:"Have you been injured in an accident at work that wasn't your fault?"

by Lumbering_Jack Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:47 pm

He didn't kick the bit, he kicked the ball.

As usual the mincer brigade are out to try and justify the little runt feigning injury. The lad needs to thank his drama teacher tomorrow.

by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:48 pm

Hills don't mess about. They've already opened a market on that red card being rescinded.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/3987874/sp/Eden%2dHazard%2dSpecials.html

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:49 pm

Really what should have happened is extra injury time added on and the lad not being asked back. Instead he rolls about, gets hazard sent off and gets his 15 minutes of fame.

by Fernando Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:50 pm

He hasnt got a chance of it being rescinded if anything it'll get extended

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:50 pm

And as usual the proper football brigade are out defending any red card offence.

by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:51 pm

Fernando wrote:He hasnt got a chance of it being rescinded if anything it'll get extended

1/8 for it not to be Nando, buying money there.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:52 pm

Nice to see Chelsea have moved on from racism to child abuse

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:56 pm

Oh dear fine for Swansea, instructing the ball boys to slow play down!

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:57 pm

Yes the ball boy was a **** but Hazard simply cannot do that. He's supposed to be a professional.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:58 pm

GSC wrote:Yes the ball boy was a **** but Hazard simply cannot do that. He's supposed to be a professional.

Getting the ball back quickly seems pretty professional to me.

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:59 pm

And again, yes the ball boy was a ****. Doesn't in any way excuse Hazard.

by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:00 pm

Ent wrote:
GSC wrote:Yes the ball boy was a **** but Hazard simply cannot do that. He's supposed to be a professional.

Getting the ball back quickly seems pretty professional to me.

You can't be that naive, surely?

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:01 pm

It's not naivety, Chelsea had noticed all the ballboys were very slow to return the ball, so they decided to do it themselves - players aren't meant to be challenged when retrieving the ball - never mind prevented from returning it to play.

Really quite shameful ploy from Swansea.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:04 pm

Ent I can't believe you are actually defending Chelsea! Sure the ballboy shouldn't have been a douche, but you can't go round kicking kids as a professional footballer!

Anyways Bradford vs Swansea final. Love it!

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:05 pm

He poked the ball from under him, had he just got up nothin would have been made of it.

It was pathetic.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:06 pm

So when Cantona kicked the guy in the crowd if he would have just got up nothing would have been made of it? #headsgone

by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:06 pm

This happens all over the world with ballboys, it's no new thing. They are probably briefed about when and when not to throw the ball back abruptly. I've no sympathy for Chelsea whatsoever.

A Bradford/Swansea final is a result for football. A team actually earning a trophy instead of buying one.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:08 pm

Olly wrote:So when Cantona kicked the guy in the crowd if he would have just got up nothing would have been made of it? #headsgone

He did get up and they threw punches at each other. Also he fly kicked him in the chest not prodded a ball out from under him.

Perspective?

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:09 pm

A Bradford/Swansea final is a result for football. A team actually earning a trophy instead of buying one.

Last time I checked these were both professional teams, they more money than my village team! Bad for football these professional teams winning professional competitions.

by Lumbering_Jack Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:10 pm

He didn't kick the ball boy now did he. All this sensationalism is ridiculous.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:10 pm

Ent wrote:
A Bradford/Swansea final is a result for football. A team actually earning a trophy instead of buying one.

Last time I checked these were both professional teams, they more money than my village team! Bad for football these professional teams winning professional competitions.

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:14 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:He didn't kick the ball boy now did he. All this sensationalism is ridiculous.

Compared to cantona vs fan...

by The Best in the World Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:22 pm

In Hazard's defense, he was trying to get the ball to try and speed up the game. But, you cannot go around kicking anyone, let alone a child. Yes, the ball boy was being an idiot and just wanted to be famous, and now he is, but as I said, you cannot kick a child. Chelsea were probably not going to win anyway, and the rules state that violent conduct is on anyone ; teammates, opposition or anyone. The boy was being a t***, but Hazard has no excuse.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:25 pm

what you lads talking about-- Hazard kicked a child.. OMG!

that is so wrong..

why am i laughing though!

by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:27 pm

I've just seen it on Sky News, ridiculous incident. Some people claiming it was a full kick to the ribs are delusional. There is absolutely no intent to harm the stupid kid at all and if anything just kicks the ball away from under him. Comparing it to Cantona is like chalk and cheese, although Hazard should of known better and should have just got the referees attention but in the heat of the moment and time running out that was never going to happen. Slap on the wrist for Hazard and a three game ban. The kid should never work for Swansea again.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:36 pm

He aimed a kick in the direction of the lad...The crowd/players are supposed to know If it hit the ball or not???

Lucky he didn't get lynched by fans...

Carragher got hit by a coin and threw it back and got sent off..

It's called incitement...

It was wrong....he'll get banned....Now all you disappointed Chelsea fans..grow up!!

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:42 pm

hazard is fried up.. yeah he was only trying to get the ball back..(probally)

but jeas- he is crazy if he doesnt understand this boundary.. is he a neandethal or something

by Ent Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:09 pm

Throwing a coin indiscriminately at fans is bordering on assault, he was lucky not to get a life time ban for that.

Hardly the same as poking the ball out, the fans behind the goal were clapping so were either Chelsea fans or didnt notice.

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:11 pm

Seriously the 'he got the ball' defenses are simultaneously hilarious and disappointing in humanity.

by Josiah Maiestas Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:17 pm

Indeed they are GSC, just like the ones defending the ballboy by saying "he's not supposed to give them the ball", when that is exactly what he is there for, not to try and make a name for himself by being a cretin.

Where will it end if the ballboy is allowed to obstruct the game like that?

by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:26 pm

Apparently he said on Twitter before the game that he was going to time waste.

The plot thickens.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:29 pm

FreekShow wrote:Apparently he said on Twitter before the game that he was going to time waste.

The plot thickens.

Matt Coates ‏@_Coatesy
You couldn't script it... apparently the ball boy's dad is Martin Morgan who owns Morgans Hotel. Where are Chelsea staying tonight? Superb!

If that's true this is truly spooky

by GSC Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:30 pm

Swansea would hardly be the first team to tell their ballboys to take their time while they lead.

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