2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 3

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:43 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:I cried when we were relegated to League 1 at Charlton. Sad sad day.

Utd got the title sewn up. QPR would be down already if it wasnt for Cesar

I bet you've cried tears of joy ever since though Olly?

I don't do teara of joy. I fistpump

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:46 pm

Dave. wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dave. wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dave. wrote:
Olly wrote:So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

That game has "panning to fan bawling their eyes out" written all over it.

Shades of Sheff Utd v Wigan in 07.

I know I shouldn't but I find something funny about that happening.

Not the actual players crying though. In fact, if i see any player crying after a bad loss, I'm glad they're showing they care. A la Chabal in the 2007 RWC.

I've only ever cried once after a football match. 1989 when Arsenal did us 2-0 to take the title. It was a Friday night and my olds went out for the night leaving me with my Man Utd loving cousin. My god did she rub it in, the byatch! The scars never go away, ever!

To be fair she probably thought the chance to wind you up was "up for grabs now!"

She still mentions it now Dave. I'm still waiting for 'Pool to pip Utd for the title. Ain't quite happening is it?

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:51 pm

I'd love to see Taarabt and Berbatov in the same team. Imagine the shift those 2 would put in!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:02 pm

I know I say Wigan will go down, but they are beating the teams around them in the relegation scene, a good sign...

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:10 pm

It's extraordinary that Wigan have lasted this long in the Premier really.

by **Crimey** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:12 pm

I like Wigan under Martinez, they try and play good football and in my opinion quite clearly a good manager. They have earned their spot in the Premier League each year, they just need to be consistent.

I cried when Liverpool went 3-0 down in the Champions League final to AC Milan. I actually turned the TV off and was going to stop watching, only for my family to say that I should watch the rest.

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:16 pm

I wouldn't cry after any football match. Last season on the final day after the infamous "AguerOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" what did I do? I laughed. Which is either a sign of coping well with disappointment or psychopathy.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:19 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I wouldn't cry after any football match. Last season on the final day after the infamous "AguerOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" what did I do? I laughed. Which is either a sign of coping well with disappointment or psychopathy.

Are you a secret City fan?

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:19 pm

Crimey wrote:I like Wigan under Martinez, they try and play good football and in my opinion quite clearly a good manager. They have earned their spot in the Premier League each year, they just need to be consistent.

I cried when Liverpool went 3-0 down in the Champions League final to AC Milan. I actually turned the TV off and was going to stop watching, only for my family to say that I should watch the rest.

I was back living at home at the time of that final and watched it with my parents. At half time I told them I'd pack my bags and leave home if we turned it around and won! They were happier than me after the shoot-out. Laugh

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:20 pm

Olly wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:I wouldn't cry after any football match. Last season on the final day after the infamous "AguerOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" what did I do? I laughed. Which is either a sign of coping well with disappointment or psychopathy.

Are you a secret City fan?

I love all cities Olly, except yours!

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:25 pm

Olly wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:I wouldn't cry after any football match. Last season on the final day after the infamous "AguerOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" what did I do? I laughed. Which is either a sign of coping well with disappointment or psychopathy.

Are you a secret City fan?

It wasn't happiness I was feeling. It's a strange ironic feeling, like you have when 11/12 teams on your accumulator win and the 12th team can only draw.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:27 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:I wouldn't cry after any football match. Last season on the final day after the infamous "AguerOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" what did I do? I laughed. Which is either a sign of coping well with disappointment or psychopathy.

Are you a secret City fan?

I love all cities Olly, except yours!

Don't you be blackening my cities name now boxing

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:28 pm

Lukaku at Chelsea next season to start? I think he is definately better than Torres atm, would challenge Ba...

He's a real talent

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:29 pm

Lukaku has always looked decent whenever I've seen him.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:35 pm

Hey Jon Walters, I think keepers know you hit your penalties that way, how about mixing it up every now and again?

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:39 pm

Olly wrote:Hey Jon Walters, I think keepers know you hit your penalties that way, how about mixing it up every now and again?

There'll never be a penalty taker like Le Tiss again. Something like 26 out of 27. Be interesting to know how many Rooney and Gerrard have missed.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:48 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:Hey Jon Walters, I think keepers know you hit your penalties that way, how about mixing it up every now and again?

There'll never be a penalty taker like Le Tiss again. Something like 26 out of 27. Be interesting to know how many Rooney and Gerrard have missed.

I believe Rickie Lambert may only have missed one in his illustrious career...

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 11:57 pm

Graham Alexander.

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:00 am

Martinez will survive and leave this summer and do marvelously, how on earth had he got kone to sign for them, like getting messi go sign for Liverpool!

When you think about the players they have lost in his reign its tremendous.

As for penalty takers the king fluffed one wide otherwise he would be 100%

by Guest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:07 am

Ent wrote:

As for penalty takers the king fluffed one wide otherwise he would be 100%

Who is the king?

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:10 am

FreekShow wrote:
Ent wrote:

As for penalty takers the king fluffed one wide otherwise he would be 100%

Who is the king?

What are you 12?

In fairness I should have said le king

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:11 am

Kei kamara new pl legend?

by Guest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:12 am

Ent wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Ent wrote:

As for penalty takers the king fluffed one wide otherwise he would be 100%

Who is the king?

What are you 12?

In fairness I should have said le king

I'm sure he fluffed a few in France Ent. Le Tiss he weren't.

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:23 am

Thought we were talking epl? Pressure ain't the same for teams you won 4/4 titles ehen you played! Compared to perpetually fighting relevant ion anyway!!

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:24 am

Anyway rvn was some taker

by Guest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:30 am

Cantona was a tasty player to be fair Ent. Where do you rank him in the PL greats?

I'd say he might scrape a top 20 spot..

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:36 am

Effect or talent?

Effect no 1 by an almost infinite distance, talent would be another debate

by Guest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:42 am

He was the first superstar of the PL era no doubt. I agree with you on the effect there Ent.

Talent? Well that's a whole different topic.

by GSC Sun 24 Feb 2013, 4:59 am

Ronaldo was easily the most talented player in PL history.

Best? Henry for me.

by **Crimey** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:49 am

Gerrard actually has a really good penalty converting rate, I know it was somewhere in the 90th percentile about a year ago, I'm not sure how much of an effect the miss against West Brom affected that.

Rooney on the other hand has a pretty poor penalty record I believe.

by JamesLincs Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:58 am

graham alexander as mentioned above has around a 98% success rate, i remember it being one miss in around 48 at one point

by mystiroakey Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:01 am

my top 5 PL players(based on talent and effect)

ronlado
henry
cantona
gaza
giggs

by JamesLincs Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:09 am

bergkamp
henry
scholes
giggs
ronaldo
cantona
schmeichel
seaman
adams
g neville
roy keane
vieira
zola
pires
shearer

based on longevity, impact, consistency

by mystiroakey Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:17 am

bergkamp!! i knew i forgot someone!

viera, schmeical, keane.. yep good calls

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:23 am

Ent wrote:Kei kamara new pl legend?

In the making Ent. In the making.

What a story he is. You can't help but root for the guy

by westisbest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:25 am

After 25 years of being in the top flight, our great club( f off u blues,baggies etc who may want to abuse us). Aston Villa' time in the top flight is coming to an end.

Its sad to be typing this but i' m not going to hide.

I've been up to Birmingham to see us play and to a fair few away games this season.

The only game I have seen us win is the second leg at home to Bradford,and that ment f all to us.

Fair play to them and good luck today, I wont be watching, Ireland rugby to watch.

Lambert has to go, he has no idea.

Wasnt over the moon when he was appointed.
What does he do to motivated players, f all.
How do we continue to concide goals from set pieces from a start.
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE TRAINING sesions.

We may get a good price for our star player and thankyou Christian. U have been the stand out player in our failing squad.

Whoever you go to english prem next season I for 1 will chant your name in the lower holte.

Whatever people think of Villa, it hurts me, the other Villa fans to see where we are. The former players whose names we sing in the holte.

Notably PAUL McGRATH.

God bless u Paul, Bosnich, Houghton, Townsend, Richardson, Staunton, Saunders, Atkinson, Yorke, Teale, Spink, Laursen, Mellberg.

To name a few greats to have come and ,gone.

We will sill fight to stay in this great league, but sadly the sands of time are running out on this great west midlands club.

As always though, we live in ,hope.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:31 am

You weren't too bad yesterday West I thought, another day you might have nicked something...

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:08 am

If Villa go down they could rinse that Championship and come back in a season. The young lads in that side are cheap on wages and clearly decent prospects. Theres no doubting Villa are the worst side i've seen West Ham play this season (in victory and defeat), but the ones who will leave are probably the waster on high wages. Weimann, Baker, Lowton etc some of those who look like they have some decent quality about them, they could rip some of the Championship defenders apart.

Lambert suffering from trying to change the philosophy and deal with the deadwood left over from the end of O'Neill and the rubbish of McLeish?

by CFCNick Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:10 am

Zola was signed in the winter and he still won Player of the Year. If that's not an impact I don't know what is.

by westisbest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:13 pm

Chris.

If/when we go down, we wont come back so quickly.

Benteke, Bent, Guzan, will go, maybe Weimann to, Vlaar.

Bennett, Lowton, Baker, Clarke, Delph, not good enough.

The find of Benteke was quality.

I've always supported Lambert, but when on transfer deadline day we needed a centre back BADLY. He gets a french second division player and a guy who has been in the US for a while as our signings, thats just poor, sorry, nothing aginst Sylla and Dorkins. but they're not going help keep us up.

I've got to the seriously worried/pist off stage now.

Man City home next, then Reading away, QPR home.

The latter two we need 6 points from.

The thing is every club will be looking to see when they play Villa, cos there is more then likely a guarenteed 3 points.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:23 pm

Gotta have some faith West man come on now!

One thing about Villa is that you will always score goals imo. When you look at QPR, you don't know where there next goal is coming from, but with Villa I always fancy you lot to score. That is definately a positive in my books.

by The Special Juan Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:26 pm

Why I love football.

Nigel Quelch: "Glad to see Mikel back, most underrated player in the team. We play much better with him playing."

Anmol Chibber: "I'm not sure I will ever understand what Jon Obi Mikel does and why he gets in the Chelski first team."

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:30 pm

I understand why he is in the team, but I don't think he is ever going to be consider one of the best doing what he does (providing an anchor to the Chelski midfield)

by Stella Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:31 pm

mystiroakey wrote:my top 5 PL players(based on talent and effect)

ronlado
henry
cantona
gaza
giggs

Gazza?

He was well past it when he returned to England.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:41 pm

Tell you what this Newcastle-Southampton game is the definition of a 6 pointer. Gotta say whoever wins should really be safe!

Saints off to a great start...

by Ent Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:59 pm

Worst free kick ever?

by The Special Juan Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:05 pm

I'm with those who don't like Mikel. I have no idea what he does. Even Carrick has a role!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:05 pm

Moussa Sissoko scores for Newcastle. What a signing he appears to be!

Must admit as a Norwich fan I am supporting Chelsea today. If they beat Citeh, title is over, meaning when we play Utd next week they will more than likely rest players with the Madrid game coming up, giving us a chance.

That's what I'm clinging too

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:06 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I'm with those who don't like Mikel. I have no idea what he does. Even Carrick has a role!!

I don't understand why he has been put there when Luiz has been doing a perfectly good job there recently

by CFCNick Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:07 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I'm with those who don't like Mikel. I have no idea what he does. Even Carrick has a role!!

I don't know why he just came straight back in after the success David Luiz had in that position. Mikel is the most overrated player on the planet, in the sense he's still deemed Premier League worthy.

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