Congratulations ENGLAND

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I'd like to congratulate England and SL on winning this years 6 Nations. Irrespective of your outcome against Wales in Cardiff you will win the championship on points difference at the very least. The most consistent team thus far by a mile. I apppreciate if you don't win the Slam it will be a disappointment, nevertheless winning the championship is still an achievement and of course you still have a good chance of the Slam. This is no disrespect to Italy by the way but we have to face facts so well played

Like Craig Joubert

Seriously though, I commented in the first half that even though France were the better team England always looked comfortable, it took a wondertry from Fofana to worry England.

Joubert did make a number of poor calls and they did favour England, which is why Joubert worries me, since the RWC I have watched him a number of times and it can be clear from the 3rd 4th minute who isn't going to get the rub of the green.

That said I'd say Joubert had one of his much better days saturday and England in reality only benefited from 2/3 howlers

Re: Joubert, wasn't he being anal to both sides about the 'early shove' ?
FGS man shut the f up with that whistle and let them get on and scrummage !

Joubert's a class ref and sometimes teams are gonna just get the rub of the green. To win a Slam you need to be a good side, you need consistency and you need some luck - Wales had all 3 last year. It should be a cracker on the 16th of March

RubyGuby wrote:Joubert's a class ref and sometimes teams are gonna just get the rub of the green. To win a Slam you need to be a good side, you need consistency and you need some luck - Wales had all 3 last year. It should be a cracker on the 16th of March

Agree with that. Grand Slams are pretty hard to come by, and I think it's a bit of freakish chance that they seem to have been the norm over the last 10/11 years. A bit weird really as I'd have thought that with the game becoming more professional it would be a lot harder to do.

My Grand Slam Winners 2013 t-shirt arrived in the post today......

"Not England's fault but he was very influential on the outcome of the game IMO"

That's very true. I wonder why he didn't send Picamoles off for deliberately tripping Farrell right in front of his eyes!

Thanks Ruby..

Your a realist and so am I. I am happy to claim victory.

At least this way you can get your congrats out before the big game at the millinium . It might be a push for you to congratulate us at that point yo!

Oh strokey, you are a poor WUM, don;t you knwo that people who don't learn from history tend to end up with GS egg on their face...England have been here on countless occassions and choked, now is the time to whisper encouragement about each game not talk up the slam (a Slam that of course no English fan is vaguely bothered about achieving as winning the championship is more important) One game at a time fella and the Slam takes care of itself...bigging yourselves up liek this,I tell you, you'll get a shock in Cardiff

I have bigged my team every game so far Horsey.. And i am winning!

I cant stop know.. it may jinx us

fark.... Steve Walsh for Wales vs England

I think our only chance now is to say to him in the tunnel.."Steve, you're hair is looking good"

There will be a shock in Cardiff, I still can't figure out who will be receiving it.
I live in modest hope rather than brash expectation.

PS: what about Murrayfield ?

damage_13 wrote:fark.... Steve Walsh for Wales vs England

I think our only chance now is to say to him in the tunnel.."Steve, you're hair is looking good"

This is really not good.

Much better tactic is to say Steve your hair is not looking good and he may spend 80 minutes getting it permed

doctor_grey wrote:

damage_13 wrote:fark.... Steve Walsh for Wales vs England

I think our only chance now is to say to him in the tunnel.."Steve, you're hair is looking good"

This is really not good.

I maintain that a good team will always outplay 15 opposition plus the ref.
e.g. Sydney, November 2003. England need to be that good team at the Millie.

To be fair to Walsh he was pretty decent in the quarter final v France in the last World Cup.

I don't remember him swearing at any players or swigging from a brown paper bag once.

Gregortree,
That's a fair statement. But I believe this will go down to the wire and it will be fine lines between the two teams.

I think he cleaned up his drinking. Just hope his 'English' attitude got scrubbed up too.

mystiroakey wrote:Thanks Ruby..

Your a realist and so am I. I am happy to claim victory.

At least this way you can get your congrats out before the big game at the millinium . It might be a push for you to congratulate us at that point yo!

Oakey, if you win in Cardiff I will be the first to congratulate you - Winning a Slam is not easy even givien some of the disruptions to some sides. You are capable of winning in Cardiff and it should be a real arm wrestle. But I will reiterate, if you win there you will be more than deserving of the Grand Slam

I know you will rubs!!

Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

100%beefy wrote:Oh strokey, you are a poor WUM, don;t you knwo that people who don't learn from history tend to end up with GS egg on their face...England have been here on countless occassions and choked, now is the time to whisper encouragement about each game not talk up the slam (a Slam that of course no English fan is vaguely bothered about achieving as winning the championship is more important) One game at a time fella and the Slam takes care of itself...bigging yourselves up liek this,I tell you, you'll get a shock in Cardiff

Countless? You were counting them in the other thread....

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Mr Morgan, will you clap England off at the Millie whatever the result ?
That was the rugby way when I played. Like when Lansdown Rd gave England a standing ovation in 1972 just for showing up.
Or do you think Rugby has become more like Wendyball these days ?

gregortree wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Mr Morgan, will you clap England off at the Millie whatever the result ?
That was the rugby way when I played. Like when Lansdown Rd gave England a standing ovation in 1972 just for showing up.
Or do you think Rugby has become more like Wendyball these days ?

I clap no matter the opposition or the result. Heck, I even throw out the odd compliment to rival teams.

bluestonevedder wrote:

gregortree wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Mr Morgan, will you clap England off at the Millie whatever the result ?
That was the rugby way when I played. Like when Lansdown Rd gave England a standing ovation in 1972 just for showing up.
Or do you think Rugby has become more like Wendyball these days ?

I clap no matter the opposition or the result. Heck, I even throw out the odd compliment to rival teams.

I haven't seen any crowd clap the opposition, not in my day anyway. There were extraordinary circumstances in your 1972 example, which makes it irrelevant.

And it was a joke by the way... I will actually congratulate England at the end of this tournament. It won't be for winning the Slam, but for turning up and losing to Wales.

Morgannwg wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:

gregortree wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Mr Morgan, will you clap England off at the Millie whatever the result ?
That was the rugby way when I played. Like when Lansdown Rd gave England a standing ovation in 1972 just for showing up.
Or do you think Rugby has become more like Wendyball these days ?

I clap no matter the opposition or the result. Heck, I even throw out the odd compliment to rival teams.

I haven't seen any crowd clap the opposition, not in my day anyway. There were extraordinary circumstances in your 1972 example, which makes it irrelevant.

And it was a joke by the way... I will actually congratulate England at the end of this tournament. It won't be for winning the Slam, but for turning up and losing to Wales.

Sure sure, and I shall clap for the exact opposite reason as to you. How's that for fighting talk? Pretty intimidating eh?

Morgs thanks for clarifying. I can see you are a sport.
At Kingsholm we always welcome on the visitors on the run out, just not as loudly as when we cheer on the home team. Same at the end of the match, although that just gets confusing. I hope it is still like that at most rugby grounds. I took a Wendyball friend once to Kingsholm who asked where was the away fan enclosure I said 'look all around you' mate.
Thank goodness we rugby fans can still happily mingle and long may that last. Pob lywch to all on the 16th.

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

dont be like that dude!!

We keep a Welcome in the Hillsides

The only team other than England to win the 6N is Wales but they must tonk Scotland, even then, I suspect England will hammer Italy. So England with the three home games makes it 95% certain (in my view) to at least win the 6N. The reason I did not say Scotland will not win the 6N is, I believe the French will beat them in Paris. Well done England, a solid 6N so far.

gregortree wrote:Morgs thanks for clarifying. I can see you are a sport.
At Kingsholm we always welcome on the visitors on the run out, just not as loudly as when we cheer on the home team. Same at the end of the match, although that just gets confusing. I hope it is still like that at most rugby grounds. I took a Wendyball friend once to Kingsholm who asked where was the away fan enclosure I said 'look all around you' mate.
Thank goodness we rugby fans can still happily mingle and long may that last. Pob lywch to all on the 16th.

Same at Tigers, always clap the away team on and off but obviously not as loudly.

Couldn't agree with you more about the mingling and so glad it goes outside of the ground as well and into the pubs before and after the games as well, just makes it a great day out, especially on away days.

I live in Lyon and so experienced the unfortunate incident last week involving the Lyon fans and the Tottenham fans (if anyone caught what happened, not sure if it was big news over there) but it just makes you appreciate how far from that rugby fans are.

Oakey / Killer - I think the real irony here is that 1 or 2 fans have got offended by my genuine congratulations. I find that rather absurd - I enjoy a Wum with the best and am always happy to disagree but there's no harm in giving credit where its due. some of my favourite posters are Geordie and the Hound of Harrow - good rugby men who are probably loving seeing their teams development at the moment. I've really enjoyed Wales's performances over the past few years and I think we have such a good team in the making as well. It brings a lot of happiness to all of us - enjoy it - all our next defeats are just around the corner

Killer,
yes glad its the same at Tigers. Lyon I always thought to be a great city, but shame about the Spurs incident. We got that news here, but it sounded more nazi/ racist than soccer. Sadly soccer gets targetted by these nuts.

Ruby, you only offended some fools. I took it as totally genuine.

- Would be good if we could try to change the culture on here a little - I think its why we lost Eirebilly if I'm honest and a few other top posters. I remain a passionate welsh rugby fan and can give better than I take but there's a line

Apologies Ruby I did actually misread and misinterpret your post, Ill be honest ...I was prejudiced by your prior record as a serial WUM and part of the problem so didnt do more than give it a cursory scan first up.

There is a line, if someone could point Mike Brown to it and explain the concept of putting the ball on the other side of it that would be appreciated.

Wheeler - you are seeing what you want to see - I have never been a serial wummer and posters will now that - I'll give better than I take in a lively debate and I enjoy the craic and banter - I'm not sure where you've gotten this impression from unless I was involved in some of those lively debates or retorting to an anglo Wum - either way, history on here tends to define who people are and whilst we all enjoy a good wumming now and again that is more often that not interspersed with decent posts - The day before writing this thread my Lions back row was Wood - Faletau and Robshaw - not exactly one eyed would you say

I took your congrats as genuine ruby and was only sorry you wouldn't extend them to the 2015 RWC, but gratefully received anyway

I like a good banter, same as the next man, problem is is that there are a few on here who are just xenophobic and belong in that bar in Lyon, but they seem to be able to get away with it. The board shouldn't be too sanitised and a bit of wummery in good humour is essential, just some of the wendyball converts tend to ruin things.

RubyGuby wrote:The day before writing this thread my Lions back row was Wood - Faletau and Robshaw - not exactly one eyed would you say

Id say you were having a laugh putting Fattyleau at 8

I only see the bad in people. Im just full of hate, what more can I say?

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Wouldn't expect any thing different from you.

Ruby,
Well I enjoy your posts.
Except this one: You put up a good front, but I know your game. You are trying a sneaky, underhanded trick to make us all overconfident or perhaps slightly compacent. And then you hope that somehow transmografies from us to the England team. Trying to gain an edge for your team like this. You should be ashamed.

majesticimperialman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Wouldn't expect any thing different from you.

Yes the bar in Lyon beckons this one.

Well done England.
Good to see your out reach program is paying off,your only one more Kiwi and two South Africans away from being 2015RWC shoe in champions.

and here's another candidate

doctor_grey wrote:Ruby,
Well I enjoy your posts.
Except this one: You put up a good front, but I know your game. You are trying a sneaky, underhanded trick to make us all overconfident or perhaps slightly compacent. And then you hope that somehow transmografies from us to the England team. Trying to gain an edge for your team like this. You should be ashamed.

Nice try Grey but I'd leave the analysis to the experts, you concentrate on them bones, it requires simpler linear thinking that suits you better

viewtothegym wrote:Well done England.
Good to see your out reach program is paying off,your only one more Kiwi and two South Africans away from being 2015RWC shoe in champions.

Whereas scotland can import any number of players who "know all about Scotland", and still be no marks.

RubyGuby wrote:Nice try Grey but I'd leave the analysis to the experts, you concentrate on them bones, it requires simpler linear thinking that suits you better

Simple liner thinking suits me better?
That's an insult - You talking to my wife again???

Linear Grey! Not Liner! as I was saying, you keep to the linear side of things as it appeals to your mathematical logical demeanour

A World Cup and 3 Finals wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Well England won't be getting any congratulations from me.

Wouldn't expect any thing different from you.

Yes the bar in Lyon beckons this one.

Ah, some more selective reading and regurgitating from the usual dull ones.

gregortree wrote:Ruby
thanks for starting a genuine congrats thread, too bad the usual WUMs jumped aboard to spoil it.
WUMMERs - please foxtrot over to the dedicated bickering thread to vent your spleens
This thread is for grown up sportsmen who know how to cheer the opposition.

Hahaha any thread which Cyril posts on can not meet the above citeria pal.

I even believe they will win the 6 N but not on points and the joy will be Wales stopping them winning the GS ... 10 years and counting. As for Wales being sponsored by a one eyed man, England should be O10 now

Rainbow,
ok then, I'll await your hearty congratulations on here when England do the Slam on the 16th.