Happy St David's Day

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Is that today?

Do you lot go out celebrating it? Or is it llike our day where half of us dont even know it exists?

Its a big day for us welsh - little kids with leeks and daffs on and special days in and out of school - Any excuse eh! Any young welsh lad will tell you that one of the joys of being a child was that you could eat half your leek before you got to school - Unfortunately it still didn't keep the girls away from me

Dyn da oedd Dewi,
Dyn da oedd Dewi,
Dyn da oedd Dewi,
Dewi, Dewi Sa-a-ant,
Dewi, Dewi Sant!

Shouldn't it be Daffyd's Day?

St George and St Andrew are the other ones, right? Just as well I'm already a British citizen as I'd probably fail the citizenship test.

I think there might be a St Patrick as well - And it's Dafydd by the way Kakiroota

Kia dont worry. No one knows what the english one is..

But is that real name in Wales - Dafydd - or is it David. Everone knows ST Patrick's. Even thicky colonial conquistadors like me.

mystiroakey wrote:Kia dont worry. No one knows what the english one is..

Yes they do: Saint Jonny.

yes thats the one

It's St David not Dafydd Kia

Is Dafydd daffodill in Welsh? Genuinely curious. I know the Prince of Wales feathers are the emblem but where do leeks and daffodils come into it?

Dafydd means david- no?

Cenhinen Pedr is daffodil in Welsh, translates literally into Peter's leek.

How the leek became the emblem of Wales is lost in the midst of time. One story is that a Welsh prince ordered his men to wear a leek in to battle so that they would be able to identify each other from the Saxons, but nobody really knows.

Roundly booing my kids as they went to school in their Wales shirts this morning..

Diolch Just come back from the parade through Cardiff City Centre. Chris Coleman, possibly some players (I'm not sure) and a load of people from the FAW walked the parade and were handing out flags to the spectators. Didn't see anyone from the WRU or players which was a shame.

I am well jealous of you lot.

We dont have any off that.

I am honestly sad

Cari wrote:Didn't see anyone from the WRU or players which was a shame.

They had their own private party at the Vale. Robin McBryde was showing off his clog dancing.

When I lived in Cardiff I didn't tend to see much in way of celebrations for St David's Day apart from a few people wearing daffs and people bringing Welsh Cakes into work.

Maybe there was a party and I wasn't invited

I'm working with daffodil on lapel and a watch with the welsh dragon on. It's just a little symolic gesture - My boys have gone to school with small daffs - much appreciated here in Cornwall

Good on you. Sounds like a fun day.

Love Welsh cakes. About 1000 calories but well worth it.

Wife has got the welsh cakes in, pretty addictive things - whisky and rugby for me tonight - Rabo 12 live

I got some Welsh Cakes too from Greggs. Couldn't find any about last night so I nipped in early this morning and got a stash

Here's a photo of St David himself in Cardiff!

Spoiler:

Looking good for all these centuries!

laugh out loud there are wearing Kilts.

I want a welsh cake by the way. I feel abused without one

RubyGuby wrote:It's St David not Dafydd Kia

Ahem Ruby

For shame on you Kia is correct to an extent

Saint David is translated (commonly) Dewi Sant, but David in welsh variants are Dewi, Dewydd. Dafydd......


Have a great day all Welsh posters ...... see you next week

laugh out loud

WTF

ok that one didnt read what its supposed to!!

erm this place has banned the comment l o l

wrong uns!

I luuuurve welsh cakes

St David or Dewi Sant - Not Dafydd - I'll bring the cakes round on Sunday

They'll be hard by then Ruby.

I'm with flyhalf factory on this one. He's a man that seems to make a lot of sense.

He's a man who thinks Scotland are going to stuff Wales Kia

Like I said, he's a man who makes a lot of sense. Don't make me put on my kilt and stamp all over your Daffyds!

I wouldn't do that but I would point you in the direction of the current 606 leaderboard for 6 Nations scores

Which will only make victory taste that much sweeter.

No welsh cakes for you then

Kia my boy, as Saint David's Day in welsh is "Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Sant" - I'm sticking with Dewi equals David in this argument. Anyway, Dewi itself is derived from Dewydd, an old Welsh form of David, whereas Dafydd is a direct derivative of the English David. Bejesus - the stupid stuff I learned when I was in Cap Coch junior school in Abercwmboi all those years ago !

Playing scrabble in Welsh must be easier to get rid of all your letters at the end.

My wife's nephews know how to sing Happy Birthday in Welsh as they lived there for a couple of years. I think it's great these languages are still alive and kicking. It's always been a regret that NZ doesn't make Maori compulsory in schools. For one thing it'd be great for speaking on the metro with Kiwi mates without anyone in all likelihood having a clue what I was on about. We all know lots of words but very few know how to speak it and I think that's a shame.

So enjoy your Dydd Gwyl (I have that accent on my Spanish keyboard but it won't let me do it with the letter w!) Dewi Sant and thanks for the culture lesson.

Ah, last bit of lecturing for you Kia - that accent, as you call it, is known as a circumflex and is a phonetic device usually used over the top of a vowel. But we Welsh use it over anything - that's what makes us special.

Aren't you glad you came on here today!

Cari, is that Merlin in the pic???

Hopefully it becomes a bank holiday in Wales. The partying would be out of this world! I guess they firstly need permission from Westminster for this though?

They don't have it in Spanish but they do have it in French. L'accent circonflexe was used to replace the s and from the English we can see what the French was before those changes due to English's ties to the Norman French. e.g. Étude from study Île from island dégoûtant from disgusting.

Morgannwg wrote:Cari, is that Merlin in the pic???

Hopefully it becomes a bank holiday in Wales. The partying would be out of this world! I guess they firstly need permission from Westminster for this though?

No it's St David.

It'll never be a national bank holiday unfortunately. It's been through the assembly and to Westminster and each time it's been refused.

mystiroakey wrote:laugh out loud there are wearing Kilts.

Yes, THEY are wearing kilts. What's so funny about that? There is Welsh family tartan and generic Welsh tartan:

http://www.welsh-tartan.com/tartan-finder.php

A brief history of tartan in Wales for you:

The Welsh Kilt and Welsh Tartan

Welsh men did not have a national costume, although Welsh kilts with family tartans are now readily available, taking the men of Wales back to their Celtic roots. The Welsh wore fashion akin to kilts two thousand years ago, probably with a form of leather trousers or leggings wrapped around with rope. This form of dress remained a feature of Welsh society confirmed by the discovery of a 9th Century stone carving depicting a man wearing a kilt. This evolved through the centuries into the woollen garment we are familiar with today. Initially this would have been made from raw coarse wool and undyed. When people think of the tartan now, most think of the very colourful pattern of the cloth of the Scottish highlands. But originally the word "tartan" described the way the thread was woven to make the cloth: each thread passed over two threads then under two threads, and so on.... (Indeed, the original "tartan' was a very light, woollen material which couldn't really keep the wearer warm). This gives tartan its distinctive appearance. Unlike a conventional check, there is always a square where the two colours of thread cross creating a speckled blend of the two colours.
The clan designs of Scottish Tartans have a long traditional history, but there is little historic evidence of clan named tartans in Wales. Wales did however have regional tartans. These is evidence that tartans were not even a Celtic invention, the Chinese are thought by some to have invented tartans some 3,000 years ago! Victorian post cards of Welsh women wearing various tartan or plaid designs as recently as the 1920's and similar images are on display in the National Assembly for Wales building in Cardiff, David Morgan (the oldest established family run department store in Wales) and St Fagans Museum. The National tartan of Wales is the 'brithwe Dewi Sant' (St. David's Speckled cloth/plaid) On each piece of the genuine Welsh national you will find the distinctive St. Davids Cross (circa 675ad) which identifies the plaid. In Wales we emblemize Welsh tartan. Look for the rampant lion of the 9th century Prince of Powys tartan. There is no evidence of the Welsh wearing a sporran. The Welsh used to wear a leather wallet called a 'sgrepan'. A 'sgrepan' is very important part of the regalia serving to decorate and protect the wearer. It is made from leather, Welsh goat hair, Welsh cob hair and has leather straps.

Welsh tartans are among the oldest tartans dated, and the kilt was originally a celtic peice of cloth.

Not to mention St Patrick being a Pembroke farmer.

We invented everything, including penguins

Cari

I meant to just use a l o l in front. I have no issue with it- found it kinda cool to be honest.

when l o l is spelt out it kind of adds to the effect!

they have stuck l o l on the swear filter- Probally to stop me bringing this forum into disripute