2012/13 Premier League discussion thread Part 5

[Guest]

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The discussion rages on! The end is nigh folks..

[Guest]

Who's to say that Suarez won't wanna leave on his own accord anyway? Who knows how his infantile brain works?

The backlash over this may well tip him over the edge.

[Duty281]

I don't know why he does it, but if he can get us points like that and play world class football than to be honest I'm not bothered. I'm not going to defend it, I'm just going to say that it doesn't bother me. Footballers are cheats, I can't think of a single honest one.

This is violence Crimey. Assault. Totally different to a dive, or a player claiming a throw-in when it isn't. It shows an unhinged individual. It was entirely unprovoked. It has dragged the once-proud name of Liverpool Football Club through the mud, again.

[Crimey]

I don't know why he does it, but if he can get us points like that and play world class football than to be honest I'm not bothered. I'm not going to defend it, I'm just going to say that it doesn't bother me. Footballers are cheats, I can't think of a single honest one.

This is violence Crimey. Assault. Totally different to a dive, or a player claiming a throw-in when it isn't. It shows an unhinged individual. It was entirely unprovoked. It has dragged the once-proud name of Liverpool Football Club through the mud, again.

Should Cantona have been sold by United after he kicked a Crystal Palace fan in the face?

[Duty281]

I don't know why he does it, but if he can get us points like that and play world class football than to be honest I'm not bothered. I'm not going to defend it, I'm just going to say that it doesn't bother me. Footballers are cheats, I can't think of a single honest one.

This is violence Crimey. Assault. Totally different to a dive, or a player claiming a throw-in when it isn't. It shows an unhinged individual. It was entirely unprovoked. It has dragged the once-proud name of Liverpool Football Club through the mud, again.

Should Cantona have been sold by United after he kicked a Crystal Palace fan in the face?

Different circumstances. Cantona was being racially abused, Suarez' bite was completely unprovoked.

[mystiroakey]

The palace fan deserved it and I am a palace fan..

[Crimey]

I don't know why he does it, but if he can get us points like that and play world class football than to be honest I'm not bothered. I'm not going to defend it, I'm just going to say that it doesn't bother me. Footballers are cheats, I can't think of a single honest one.

This is violence Crimey. Assault. Totally different to a dive, or a player claiming a throw-in when it isn't. It shows an unhinged individual. It was entirely unprovoked. It has dragged the once-proud name of Liverpool Football Club through the mud, again.

Should Cantona have been sold by United after he kicked a Crystal Palace fan in the face?

Different circumstances. Cantona was being racially abused, Suarez' bite was completely unprovoked.

It's still assault.

[Duty281]

I don't know why he does it, but if he can get us points like that and play world class football than to be honest I'm not bothered. I'm not going to defend it, I'm just going to say that it doesn't bother me. Footballers are cheats, I can't think of a single honest one.

This is violence Crimey. Assault. Totally different to a dive, or a player claiming a throw-in when it isn't. It shows an unhinged individual. It was entirely unprovoked. It has dragged the once-proud name of Liverpool Football Club through the mud, again.

Should Cantona have been sold by United after he kicked a Crystal Palace fan in the face?

Different circumstances. Cantona was being racially abused, Suarez' bite was completely unprovoked.

It's still assault.

I would say yes in answer to your question. Professionals can't act in such a manner.

[GSC]

Cantona was definitely wrong as well, but this isn't the first Suarez incident atm

[Guest]

Crimey I believe this is your field: Had Suarez drawn blood and Ivanovic made a criminal complaint would this fit into the "wounding with intent" bracket?

[TRUSSMAN66]

El-Hadji Diouf is the closest to this scroat..

[mystiroakey]

Anyway lads the game has moved on since the cantona kick

We are so much harsher on these things these days. Surez is going to get one hell of a punishment..

The interesting thing will be if liverpool accept this punishment or do everything they can to appeal

Surely they cant do the later..!! not this time

[TRUSSMAN66]

They won't appeal..........Season is over and it'll make them look as If they are defending the indefensible..

[Crimey]

Crimey I believe this is your field: Had Suarez drawn blood and Ivanovic made a criminal complaint would this fit into the "wounding with intent" bracket?

Don't make me feel guilty for not revising!

But yeah, it could possibly be considered to be a Section 20 of the Offences Against a Person Act, which is essentially the unlawful wounding or the unlawful infliction of grievous bodily harm. But it's unlikely, unless there was strong evidence that he actually intended to draw blood or was reckless in doing so, he'd have to have bitten him pretty hard.

It could still constitute assault occasioning actual bodily harm, but again I doubt that because a bite isn't going to really affect Ivanovic for very long. It would have to interfere in his health or comfort, which it would have done for a minute or so, but enough to constitute Suarez being charged under that.

He could definitely be charged with assault should Ivanovic press charges, but I seriously doubt he will.

I would be extremely surprised to see any criminal charges being made, as it'd be the lowest form of assault anyway.

[Duty281]

They won't appeal..........Season is over and it'll make them look as If they are defending the indefensible..

The ban (if they keep him) will be likely large enough to stretch over to next season as well. Really don't think they'll appeal...but this is Liverpool.

[GSC]

They'll be out in t-shirts for their next game

[Duty281]

Probably not the most violent thing to happen in English football this week though. Have a look at this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-22230944

[Guest]

They won't appeal..........Season is over and it'll make them look as If they are defending the indefensible..

The ban (if they keep him) will be likely large enough to stretch over to next season as well. Really don't think they'll appeal...but this is Liverpool.

There's no way they'll appeal. It would be the mother of all PR disasters. They've surely learnt their lesson.

[GSC]

More to the point of Liverpool needing him, how long until the FA gets sick of seeing Suarez continually in front of them? And hands out a ban of half a season or worse?

[westisbest]

Ah the mickey mouse games are done with.

The big ones tomorrow.

[LivinginItaly]

As I have said on the liverpool thread if he is guilty of this (not seen the incident so only going off what I have read) then I don't want him to play for my club again. Some things are just not acceptable.

[Stella]

Sky sports have just showed footage of Defoe biting Mascherano in 2006. He didn't even get a one game ban?

[Stella]

Sky sports have just showed footage of Defoe biting Mascherano in 2006. He didn't even get a one game ban?

[GSC]

He got booked so the FA couldn't take action.

[Stella]

He got booked so the FA couldn't take action.

Aah, that stupid law.

[JamesLincs]

Probably not the most violent thing to happen in English football this week though. Have a look at this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-22230944

stockport fans attacked players of both teams at their game at kidderminster yesterday. delighted we survived at their expense

[LivinginItaly]

Suarez has just issued an apology on facebook. Guess that removes the element of doubt.

[LivinginItaly]

Luis Suarez 6 minutes ago · I'm sad for what it happened this afternoon, I apologize Ivanovic and all football world for my inexcusable behaviour. I'm so sorry about it!!

[mystiroakey]

Well -10 for the bite and +1 for the quick apology .

[JamesLincs]

hahahahahaha its not him

[JamesLincs]

oooh maybe it is him.

[The Special Juan]

Reading between the lines, he's not actually admitted to biting Ivanovic.

[JamesLincs]

hes actually apologising for beating ivanovic to equalise but only to rescue a draw

[The Special Juan]

No doubt Mr PR Man had a hand in it.

[The Special Juan]

Or Ms PR Woman of course. I have no idea who does the PR.

[GSC]

Liverpool Football Club has the following response to the incident that occurred during today's game at Anfield:


Luis Suarez said: "I am deeply sorry for my inexcusable behaviour earlier today during our match against Chelsea.

"I have issued an apology and have tried to contact Branislav Ivanović to speak to him personally. I apologise also to my manager, playing colleagues and everyone at Liverpool Football Club for letting them down."

The club's managing director Ian Ayre commented: "Luis has made an unreserved apology for his actions today.

"His behaviour is not befitting of any player wearing a Liverpool shirt and Luis is aware that he has let himself and everyone associated with the club down. We will deal with the matter internally and await any action from the FA."

Brendan Rodgers added: "Having reviewed the video footage and spoken to Luis, his behaviour is unacceptable and I have made him aware of this."

Credit where its due, as opposed to last time when they bunkered up and cried victim. Doubt it'll matter much to the FA though.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

No credit yet. Theyve done nothing that isnt PR so far.

[Hero]

Agree totally with Chris.
Give them credit when they dish out a huge ban or get shut of him.

[The Special Juan]

I think Hansen's confused "hasn't harmed anyone" with "unprovoked assault".

[Ent]

3 match ban and get on with things. No worse than a stamp or a deliberate kick over all even if it is animalistic.

Doesn't make his life easy does he.

[GSC]

Hansen as neutral as ever.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Victor Anichebe ‏@RealBigVic28 4h
I dare Luis Suarez to even try and bite me in the derby. Cos he'll get volleyed right into the Kop the horrible f***ing sewer rat.

[The Special Juan]

Victor Anichebe ‏@RealBigVic28 4h
I dare Luis Suarez to even try and bite me in the derby. Cos he'll get volleyed right into the Kop the horrible f***ing sewer rat.

Sounds legit.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yeah it is a parody...

[The Special Juan]

"Omnipotent" is a bit heavy to describe a defender!!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Its still funny to me! Occasionally these parodies make me so happy. A friend of mine met him out in town and said he was a laugh, he'd probably appreciate it!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

If you are on twitter, and don't follow @usasoccerguy what are you doing with your football parody life!

Best thing on there

[The Special Juan]

Mmm I think Sidwell should have been sent off but on the other hand he's unlucky because these challenges go unpunished all the time. Nasri's today was just as bad. Giroud was even unluckier, but at least the ref was consistent.

[Crimey]

I think Hansen's confused "hasn't harmed anyone" with "unprovoked assault".

I'd rather get a stupid bite like that than a really fierce tackle. It's stupid, but it isn't really that harmful.

[The Special Juan]

I think Hansen's confused "hasn't harmed anyone" with "unprovoked assault".

I'd rather get a stupid bite like that than a really fierce tackle. It's stupid, but it isn't really that harmful.

Depends who from. If it was someone off the street who could be carrying anything then I'd rather have the broken leg.

[The Special Juan]

Sorry, I know that's got nothing to do with anything but I really don't like biting or spitting.

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