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Post by Seanusarrilius Sun 09 Jun 2013, 4:15 pm

Nice that Kugan got them all together. Personally I am not convince that Mick will make this. Fury is saying what he always does, but you know Booth and Haye want it. I don't feel the same about Mick from this.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 09 Jun 2013, 4:41 pm

Fury is hilarious, I have to give him thtat.

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Post by Strongback Sun 09 Jun 2013, 4:55 pm

Hilarious, Fury doesn't care what he says.

I've never seen Adam Booth look so uncomfortable.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 09 Jun 2013, 4:59 pm

Fury reckons he's "3 fights away from being a super legend" what a hilarious dude.

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Post by winchester Sun 09 Jun 2013, 5:36 pm

Fury might not be everyones cup of tea but hes a fantastic self promoter. Fury against Haye would be absolutely huge. Fury is dead right about the Klitschkos. If they dont want to get involved then who needs them? I believe Fury would beat them both. I think Fury will beat Haye due to his bigger size but he will give Haye opportunities to hit him because he fights so aggressively. Great if this fight happens. This is what heavyweight boxing could do with. Fighters like Fury, Wilder, Price, Haye fighting each other in big fights. If the Klitschko brothers call themselves champions these are the fighters they need to be facing. If they dont then they should just be left behind and out of the picture. I wonder what it is Haye did to Fury when he was an amateur to anger Fury. Im surprised by that comment because Haye doesnt strike me as the kind of guy who would disrespect a young amateur coming through. George Groves speaks very positively about how Haye has helped his career when he was an amateur.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 09 Jun 2013, 5:39 pm

Who needs the Klitschko's Winchester... God... I don't know, the Heavyweights that want to be Heavyweight world champion...?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 5:44 pm

Winchester you are simply a 100% gimp. Serious.

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Post by winchester Sun 09 Jun 2013, 5:56 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Winchester you are simply a 100% gimp. Serious.

Why? Because you dont agree with me and lack the manners to respond in a civilised manner?

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Post by winchester Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:02 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Who needs the Klitschko's Winchester... God... I don't know, the Heavyweights that want to be Heavyweight world champion...?

If the Klitschkos dont want to involve themselves in the next generation of fighters then they should just be left behind. They dont entertain, they arent all that good and they lack personality. I dont think there is a clear number one in the division. You have the two Klitschkos but the new talents coming through like Fury, Wilder and Price are bigger, better and more entertaining. The Klitschkos should be facing them to see who is the best. If they dont, then the new generation should face each other and forget about the Klitschkos.

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Post by Rowley Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:15 pm

Fury Wilder and Price will all get their turn. One of the great myths of the Klitscho era is that they duck challengers. When someone emerges as either a perceived or genuine threat they tend to get dealt with and the brothers always deal with their mandatory challengers.

Price managed to get himself knocked out when he was starting the get some momentum and support. Fury withdrew from a purse bid to potentially become mandatory to one of the brothers and Wilder's best win thus far is Audley. How any of this equates to Wlad and Vitali hiding behind the sofa when those guys are mentioned is quite beyond me.

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Post by gab Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:17 pm

You have the two Klitschkos but the new talents coming through like Fury, Wilder and Price are bigger, better and more entertaining.
are they better ? none of these mentioned are good enough yet wlad would beat them all easy at the moment vitaly is getting on a bit now but no chance for any of them against wlad sorry. you say it yourself
new talents coming through
they need a good few fights b4 their ready for either bro imo. and even then they may not be good enough
i personaly am looking forward to haye koing fury will be fun for 3/4 rounds but when haye lands fury wont be getting back up

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:19 pm

No winchester. I just dont agree with the way you come on here to wind everyone up in a certain way.

Even a cricket fan would know that Fury has absolute ZERO chance against either klitchkos or haye let alone any other top ten heavy on earth.

For fury to even state the following:

"I wiped out Cunningham with ease. Crusiers dont belong at heavy and I showed that"

ERrrrr you got dropped by him and were being beaten A LOT....

Come on Winchester, wake up and smell the coffee.


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Post by superflyweight Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:27 pm

Booth looked a little uncomfortable to begin with but grew into that interview and its clear that he and Haye think that it's an easy fight for them and easy money.

Would be surprised if it goes past 5 or 6 rounds with Haye eventually connecting with a big shot that Fury won't be able to deal with. Fury not good enough to make best use of his physical advantages against someone who is going to fight on the outside and dart in and out with the speed with which Haye can.

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Post by winchester Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:32 pm

Rowley wrote:Fury Wilder and Price will all get their turn. One of the great myths of the Klitscho era is that they duck challengers. When someone emerges as either a perceived or genuine threat they tend to get dealt with and the brothers always deal with their mandatory challengers.

Price managed to get himself knocked out when he was starting the get some momentum and support. Fury withdrew from a purse bid to potentially become mandatory to one of the brothers and Wilder's best win thus far is Audley. How any of this equates to Wlad and Vitali hiding behind the sofa when those guys are mentioned is quite beyond me.

You only have to look at the kind of size and power that Fury, Price or Wilder bring to the table. The Klitschkos are big men that are used to having a size advantage. Thats how Wladimir Klitschko beat Haye. He just used longer reach and greater size to jab away at Haye from a position of safety. He knows he cant do that against these new guys. They will be coming to knock him out. This is a boxer who has been knocked out by journeymen alot smaller than him. Look at what Price and Wilder did to Audley Harrison. They took out an Olympic gold medal champion in minutes. The Klitschkos wont be keen in facing that. I think the likes of Fury, Price and Wilder have pretty much realised this so they will do their own thing. The Klitschkos are old and are squeezing the last bit of life they can from their time as world champions and that means staying away from the young guns.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:32 pm

Think that Booth is probabaly the only person I want to see flattened more than fury, the guy is an Tinkywinky and a bully and acts like he's a fighter

Fury is a complete tool and while I can't stand people who are making him out as something he's not he is entertaining. He's the guy you watch whether you like him or not as some want to see him flattered

Think its a big fight and Fury might as well cash in as while he is a big guy he isn't very good and if a much smaller, weaker, older, slower and less talented cruiser than Haye in Cunningham can have him in so muc trouble you'd be a fool to pick Fury to survive the full 12 let alone win

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Post by superflyweight Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:36 pm

winchester wrote:
Rowley wrote:Fury Wilder and Price will all get their turn. One of the great myths of the Klitscho era is that they duck challengers. When someone emerges as either a perceived or genuine threat they tend to get dealt with and the brothers always deal with their mandatory challengers.

Price managed to get himself knocked out when he was starting the get some momentum and support. Fury withdrew from a purse bid to potentially become mandatory to one of the brothers and Wilder's best win thus far is Audley. How any of this equates to Wlad and Vitali hiding behind the sofa when those guys are mentioned is quite beyond me.

You only have to look at the kind of size and power that Fury, Price or Wilder bring to the table. The Klitschkos are big men that are used to having a size advantage. Thats how Wladimir Klitschko beat Haye. He just used longer reach and greater size to jab away at Haye from a position of safety. He knows he cant do that against these new guys. They will be coming to knock him out. This is a boxer who has been knocked out by journeymen alot smaller than him. Look at what Price and Wilder did to Audley Harrison. They took out an Olympic gold medal champion in minutes. The Klitschkos wont be keen in facing that. I think the likes of Fury, Price and Wilder have pretty much realised this so they will do their own thing. The Klitschkos are old and are squeezing the last bit of life they can from their time as world champions and that means staying away from the young guns.

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Post by Rowley Sun 09 Jun 2013, 6:37 pm

And now we have the second great myth of the Klitschko's reign. The idea they only beat folk smaller than them. Have no desire to do the digging folk have previously done on here but think this has been shown frequently enough to be absolute poppycock.

If the guys you named were so keen to face the brothers they would get themselves to be mandatory. To the best of my knowledge neither brother has ever turned away his mandatory challenger. Given Fury was one fight away from achieving this it would seem he is not quite as desperate to face Wlad as you portray him to be.

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Post by winchester Sun 09 Jun 2013, 7:09 pm

The biggest myth about the Klitschkos is that they are great boxers. If you watch there fights they are very average. They wouldnt have any size advantage against Wilder or Price or Fury and these guys would bully them aggressively. Not long ago Vitali fought Chisora. The same Chisora that Tyson Fury actually beat before. So how is it Chisora gets the fight but Fury has to wait? I mean what does that tell you? Instead of fighting Fury they fight a smaller heavyweight that Fury already beat. Says it all really. I also think they cleverly waited for Haye to beat the giant Valuev who was another fighter that was bigger and stronger than them. Wladimir was happy to fight the much smaller Haye when he won but he didnt seem to want to fight Valuev so its incorrect to say they take on the biggest challenges. Their next fights should be a gainst Wilder and Fury but instead it will be against smaller worse fighters Im sure.

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Post by gab Sun 09 Jun 2013, 7:14 pm

i was under the impression that don king wouldn't let him any where near either brother i maybe wrong tho

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Post by hampo17 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 7:18 pm

Instead of fighting Fury? He wasn't even an option.

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Post by winchester Sun 09 Jun 2013, 7:38 pm

gab wrote:i was under the impression that don king wouldn't let him any where near either brother i maybe wrong tho

I dont think so. Valuev fought Haye who at the time was seen by most as the number 1 heavyweight. The Klitschkos hadnt been keen on facing Haye before that which was well documented but I think when they saw how much Haye struggled with Valuevs size even though he was a much better boxer they realised they could beat him.

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Post by gab Sun 09 Jun 2013, 7:44 pm

sure i read somewhere, again could be wrong. that if valuev fought either bro then don king wanted options on the bro that won so that was a no go as the bros promoters said no chance, may be way of the mark mind.

but either way wlad had signed to fight haye and he pulled out (shoulder injury ) or just the tv companies collapsing so he feared he wouldn't get payed you may be right about the don king angle but wlad had already signed to fight haye so don't think they were that scared of him

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Post by horizontalhero Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:08 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:No winchester. I just dont agree with the way you come on here to wind everyone up in a certain way.

Even a cricket fan would know that Fury has absolute ZERO chance against either klitchkos or haye let alone any other top ten heavy on earth.

For fury to even state the following:

"I wiped out Cunningham with ease. Crusiers dont belong at heavy and I showed that"

ERrrrr you got dropped by him and were being beaten A LOT....

Come on Winchester, wake up and smell the coffee.


Mobile, I once found myself in a hotel in San Fransisco where above the door as you exited the building was a big sign that read "Remember , avoid the dull and the ignorant" . It sprung back into mind when I was vainly trying reasoned debate with Gordy, I promptly stopped and never responded to any of his posts ever again. I suggest you do the same with this clown, and hopefully if we all stop encouraging him by responding to the crap he posts he may, like Gordy, stop posting altogether.

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Post by tunes666 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:15 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:No winchester. I just dont agree with the way you come on here to wind everyone up in a certain way.

Even a cricket fan would know that Fury has absolute ZERO chance against either klitchkos or haye let alone any other top ten heavy on earth.

For fury to even state the following:

"I wiped out Cunningham with ease. Crusiers dont belong at heavy and I showed that"

ERrrrr you got dropped by him and were being beaten A LOT....

Come on Winchester, wake up and smell the coffee.


I don't think Fury is nearly as bad as your making out.. Currently I see him giving VK a close fight as he is getting old. While Haye has the power to hurt Fury, Fury has the size no nullify Hayes power as WK did, so I would still give Fury a chance in that fight and Fury is still only 25 so will only get better and could still end up giving WK a run for his money...


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Post by tunes666 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:22 pm

Every time Haye has faced a big heavyweight he has had to fight with caution.. He only just about nicked the fight against Valuev, it took him three rounds to land on Harrison barley having thrown a punch and he could not got anywhere near WK. To say that he would make easy work of Fury for me does not make sense.. Fury is a better boxer than some give him credit for. I think he is capable fo taking Haye into the later rounds and making his weight count.. If Haye lands a good one on him then it could go all wrong but I don't see it as a for gone conclusion like some do.

As for why Fury may be dodging a few fights, people forget that he s still getting better and building up his name and talent.. I don't think they would duck the fight as such but they may think about if its the right time for it financially or technically.

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Post by Rowley Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:28 pm

winchester wrote:. The Klitschkos hadnt been keen on facing Haye before that which was well documented

Haye fought Valuev in November 2009. when you say the Klitschko's were not keen on fighting him before does this include 20 June 2009 when Haye and Wladimir were signed to fight each other and Haye pulled out?

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Post by Rowley Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:30 pm

horizontalhero wrote:

Mobile, I once found myself in a hotel in San Fransisco where above the door as you exited the building was a big sign that read "Remember , avoid the dull and the ignorant" . .

Explaines why you're not around here too often Mobile. Such an approach must put a serious crimp in how frequently you can contribute.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:45 pm

Rowley is dull....Horizontal is ignorant...and Davide is the ugly !!!

Woweeewoweeow..wowwowwow.....eh Gringo!!!!

People are giving Haye this fight far to readily............For sure the big Man has weaknesses..However..........

1. Haye only needs to get hit once...........
2. He was in awe of Wlad's size..Who is to say he won't soil his pants again...

Fury has more chance than he is being given credit for.........You get respect when you are 6 ft 9 and 250..........Question is how much he gets off Haye!!

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:48 pm

winchester wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Who needs the Klitschko's Winchester... God... I don't know, the Heavyweights that want to be Heavyweight world champion...?

If the Klitschkos dont want to involve themselves in the next generation of fighters then they should just be left behind. They dont entertain, they arent all that good and they lack personality. I dont think there is a clear number one in the division. You have the two Klitschkos but the new talents coming through like Fury, Wilder and Price are bigger, better and more entertaining. The Klitschkos should be facing them to see who is the best. If they dont, then the new generation should face each other and forget about the Klitschkos.

Why doesnt Fury fight this "next generation" instead of fighting Maddalone, Cunningham, Rogan etc?

Geeze, I feel sick for even taking the bait of you
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Post by tunes666 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:50 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

Why doesnt Fury fight this "next generation" instead of fighting Maddalone, Cunningham, Rogan etc?

Geeze, I feel sick for even taking the bait of you

Fury is a 21 fight 25 year old who has just started to step up his opposition fighting out of the UK for the first time in his last fight... He is not the Champ. I thought it was the champs job to defend their belts against the best challengers?


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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:52 pm

So only the champ is supposed to take on decent opponents?????
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Post by tunes666 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 8:55 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:So only the champ is supposed to take on decent opponents?????
Being a Champion means you are crowned the best if you want to maintain that crown than you need to keep proving it. This is why if you can be champ for a long time you deserve huge respect.... What was the Ks doing calling Chisora out?

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:04 pm

Im not arguing that they shouldnt fight the best, but why shouldnt the challanger earn a shot by beating credible opponents and Fury has an average opponent in Kevin Johnson whos claim to fame was lying against the ropes while Vitali punched the life out of him on his record and a god awful Chisora who rolled into the ring. Thats it, the rest are washed up old men, so theres no reason Fury shouldnt be given stick either.

Fury has been given the opportunity to fight Price and Pulev in the past which most boxing fans were gunning for and with Price he ran for the hills and fought the indestructable force that is Martin Rogan and recently ran for the hills again when the clock was ticking for purse bids to potentially become the European Champion and next in line for Wlad. This is the guy who has been forever claiming to be the best heavyweight on the planet and the one who will knock both brothers out so why not just blow Pulev away and take care of business if hes that good?

If he fights Haye then fari play, its a fight I would defo pay to see, but if this doesnt come off then he is most definately a joke.

Now, personally I dont blame Fury the most for all this, its that fat, used car salesman look'a'like he has of a promoter. If the Haye fight is up for grabs promotional wise, Mick knows he hasnt a cats chance in hell of competing his micky mouse C5 contract with Sky so he's gonna lose out so I fear he will do his most to stop this Haye fight.

I will be surprised if this fight happens.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:06 pm

Why should credible contenders risk a $2million dollar payday when there are only about three of them around.............

Big money the heavy crown.............


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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:07 pm

Every time Fury mentions fighting Haye, Hennessy does that thing out of the cartoons where he hooks his finger into his shirt collar and pulls it and steam comes out he looks that uneasy about it
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:09 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why should credible contenders risk a $2million dollar payday when there are only about three of them around.............

Big money the heavy crown.............


Because maybe its a good idea to win the title fight when you get it by taking on decent opponents and learning.

Here we go again with this carp, so every Klitschko opponent has been undefeated?? In the heavyweight division a loss means nothing. 2-3 more wins and you are back in the mix again.
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Post by horizontalhero Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:09 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Rowley is dull....Horizontal is ignorant...and Davide is the ugly !!!

Woweeewoweeow..wowwowwow.....eh Gringo!!!!

People are giving Haye this fight far to readily............For sure the big Man has weaknesses..However..........

1. Haye only needs to get hit once...........
2. He was in awe of Wlad's size..Who is to say he won't soil his pants again...

Fury has more chance than he is being given credit for.........You get respect when you are 6 ft 9 and 250..........Question is how much he gets off Haye!!

Don't buy either of those points Truss, Wlad hit Haye with some decent shots and he didn't react too badly, and I don't rate Fury as being a harder puncher than Wlad, and if size was what intimidated Haye, why did he fight Valveu? I think he was more in awe of Wlads jab and level skill than his size. What I would agree with is that Haye may well resort to circling and pot shots rather than taking a fight to Fury. Whatever the tactics though I would still expect Haye to win, whatever you might think of Haye he is very talented, and a pretty powerful fighter, the only area in which Fury holds an advantage are in weight and height, and that's unlikely to be enough if Haye brings his A game.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:10 pm

Fury should avoid Haye..............They should wait the Klits out...

Why should credible contenders fight eachother so the Klits can fight guys like Mormeck??

Horizontal you're more than welcome to disagree...........However Fury will be a big beast...........The fight we see in our heads might not pan out..


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Post by azania Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:16 pm

I'm probably Fury biggest supporter here. But Haye should and will catch up with him and put him away. Fury just isn;t good enough and has too many weaknesses. His size will pose a few problems. For those who think Haye will walk through him, think again. When has Haye walked through a big HW? He was timid against Audley. Timid against Valuev. Petrified against Wlad. Fury will stick around until the mid to late rounds when Haye lands one.

The type of fight depends on Haye. I see Haye circling around waiting for openings in a drab affair. Fury will be very cautious but will get caught. But if he lands on Haye it will be very interesting as Haye himself has chin issues.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:20 pm

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winchester wrote:. The Klitschkos hadnt been keen on facing Haye before that which was well documented

Haye fought Valuev in November 2009. when you say the Klitschko's were not keen on fighting him before does this include 20 June 2009 when Haye and Wladimir were signed to fight each other and Haye pulled out?

Winchester is just a WUM who know snothing about boxing.

He tried to say Wlad was avoiding Haye but they fought in 2011 and in 2009 like yous aid they signed a contract to fight but Haye pulled out.

Also Winchester says the klitsckos fight small opponents but the last 3 Wlad opponents have all been above 6ft5- thompson, pianetta and Wach, the latter being taller and heavier than Klitschko.

Winchester just talks utter rubbish and it is best people just avoid talking to him.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:20 pm

azania wrote:I'm probably Fury biggest supporter here. But Haye should and will catch up with him and put him away. Fury just isn;t good enough and has too many weaknesses. His size will pose a few problems. For those who think Haye will walk through him, think again. When has Haye walked through a big HW? He was timid against Audley. Timid against Valuev. Petrified against Wlad. Fury will stick around until the mid to late rounds when Haye lands one.

The type of fight depends on Haye. I see Haye circling around waiting for openings in a drab affair. Fury will be very cautious but will get caught. But if he lands on Haye it will be very interesting as Haye himself has chin issues.

Can a Mod look into this, I think someone has hacked into Az's account. Cheers Shocked
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Post by azania Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:22 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
azania wrote:I'm probably Fury biggest supporter here. But Haye should and will catch up with him and put him away. Fury just isn;t good enough and has too many weaknesses. His size will pose a few problems. For those who think Haye will walk through him, think again. When has Haye walked through a big HW? He was timid against Audley. Timid against Valuev. Petrified against Wlad. Fury will stick around until the mid to late rounds when Haye lands one.

The type of fight depends on Haye. I see Haye circling around waiting for openings in a drab affair. Fury will be very cautious but will get caught. But if he lands on Haye it will be very interesting as Haye himself has chin issues.

Can a Mod look into this, I think someone has hacked into Az's account. Cheers Shocked

I've always said that Fury was top 10. Just that there are better guys. K2, Haye for sure. Possibly Wilder with his swings. The rest are a much of a muchness and pick em. Price gets flattened though. OK

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:27 pm

Fury can win if he fights dirty like he did against Cunningham. It will be interesting to see the character of the ref (if it does happen). If he is forever seperating and is strict enough, Fury is screwed. If its another who allows Fury to apply his tricks it could be a long dark road for Haye..............and if its Ian John Lewis then the fight gets stopped whenever the first jab lands.
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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:29 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
azania wrote:I'm probably Fury biggest supporter here. But Haye should and will catch up with him and put him away. Fury just isn;t good enough and has too many weaknesses. His size will pose a few problems. For those who think Haye will walk through him, think again. When has Haye walked through a big HW? He was timid against Audley. Timid against Valuev. Petrified against Wlad. Fury will stick around until the mid to late rounds when Haye lands one.

The type of fight depends on Haye. I see Haye circling around waiting for openings in a drab affair. Fury will be very cautious but will get caught. But if he lands on Haye it will be very interesting as Haye himself has chin issues.

Can a Mod look into this, I think someone has hacked into Az's account. Cheers Shocked

Haha. I think AZ is right with his predictions, haye will be cautious but will get a late stoppage. I think Fury needs 5 more fights before he faces the Klitschkos or Haye. Fury is getting better but his defence is still poor so needs to work on it.

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Post by azania Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:30 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Fury can win if he fights dirty like he did against Cunningham. It will be interesting to see the character of the ref (if it does happen). If he is forever seperating and is strict enough, Fury is screwed. If its another who allows Fury to apply his tricks it could be a long dark road for Haye..............and if its Ian John Lewis then the fight gets stopped whenever the first jab lands.

If he gets close to Haye he gets knocked out. Keep it at range. Mix it up a little between southpaw and orthodox. Whwn Haye comes close, tie him up. I honestly see a boring fight. Against the big guys, has Haye looked exciting?

Even at range, eventually Haye will catch up with him......unless Fury lands and goes hell for leather trying to finish it and gets suckered.

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Post by azania Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:32 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
azania wrote:I'm probably Fury biggest supporter here. But Haye should and will catch up with him and put him away. Fury just isn;t good enough and has too many weaknesses. His size will pose a few problems. For those who think Haye will walk through him, think again. When has Haye walked through a big HW? He was timid against Audley. Timid against Valuev. Petrified against Wlad. Fury will stick around until the mid to late rounds when Haye lands one.

The type of fight depends on Haye. I see Haye circling around waiting for openings in a drab affair. Fury will be very cautious but will get caught. But if he lands on Haye it will be very interesting as Haye himself has chin issues.

Can a Mod look into this, I think someone has hacked into Az's account. Cheers Shocked

Haha. I think AZ is right with his predictions, haye will be cautious but will get a late stoppage. I think Fury needs 5 more fights before he faces the Klitschkos or Haye. Fury is getting better but his defence is still poor so needs to work on it.

Fury just is not good enough and doubt he ever will be. That is not to say he will never win a belt because I think he will after K2 and Haye are gone. He has time on his side and he is very marketable.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:39 pm

azania wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
azania wrote:I'm probably Fury biggest supporter here. But Haye should and will catch up with him and put him away. Fury just isn;t good enough and has too many weaknesses. His size will pose a few problems. For those who think Haye will walk through him, think again. When has Haye walked through a big HW? He was timid against Audley. Timid against Valuev. Petrified against Wlad. Fury will stick around until the mid to late rounds when Haye lands one.

The type of fight depends on Haye. I see Haye circling around waiting for openings in a drab affair. Fury will be very cautious but will get caught. But if he lands on Haye it will be very interesting as Haye himself has chin issues.

Can a Mod look into this, I think someone has hacked into Az's account. Cheers Shocked

Haha. I think AZ is right with his predictions, haye will be cautious but will get a late stoppage. I think Fury needs 5 more fights before he faces the Klitschkos or Haye. Fury is getting better but his defence is still poor so needs to work on it.

Fury just is not good enough and doubt he ever will be. That is not to say he will never win a belt because I think he will after K2 and Haye are gone. He has time on his side and he is very marketable.

Fury is only 24 so he has plenty of time. If he sorts out his defence he will be top 5.


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Post by azania Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:42 pm

Yep. No need to rush him. People want him rushed so he gets sparked. But he will improve and develop. The Haye fight will show him where he has to go and what to improve on.

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Post by tunes666 Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:51 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Im not arguing that they shouldnt fight the best, but why shouldnt the challanger earn a shot by beating credible opponents and Fury has an average opponent in Kevin Johnson whos claim to fame was lying against the ropes while Vitali punched the life out of him on his record and a god awful Chisora who rolled into the ring. Thats it, the rest are washed up old men, so theres no reason Fury shouldnt be given stick either.

First of all its the Ks fault people like fury have a shot, why does Chisora, Mariusz Wach, Manuel Charr, Albert Sosnowski get a shot but Fury not?

They leave the door open for people like fury by calling people out before they are ready or proven worthy..

And to be fair to Fury he has not really claimed he should be fighting the Ks, he has said he thinks he will beat them but has also talked about working his way up and so on....

Its the champions job to fight the best, Admittedly they have the right to sign up for a few warm up fights but the Ks make a big song and dance about fighting a lot of bums that everyone knows they will beat... Im not saying they are not great fighters but they play it WAY to safe in my book. They were eager to fight Haye when he was a new Heavyweight only just coming up to ther weight, once he proved a real threat my word how hard was it to get the fight on?, be it because of their greedy contracts or reluctancy to risk getting beat, it is a spoiler.

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Post by milkyboy Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:55 pm

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"I once found myself in a hotel in San Fransisco where above the door as you exited the building was a big sign that read "Remember , avoid the dull and the ignorant" .

Having 'found yourself in a hotel in san Francisco', I don't think that sign was meant for you horizontal. The one next to it that said "and remember, don't accept drinks from strangers' was aimed at you.

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