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Post by x12x Mon 08 Jul 2013, 11:15 am

DEBATE-AMANIA!


As we all know, wrestling fans don't agree on anything and are willing to defend their opinion to the death even when people aren't willing to listen...this got me thinking.

This got me thinking...I'm looking for 16 opinionated people to take part in a knockout tournament to crown the first ever Debate-amania Champion! The basic idea is that each week you will be given an opinion and in 500 words of less you must explain why that opinion is correct against someone who has been given the opposite opinion...once all the opinions are in then the other competitors vote for who they think gave the most compelling defence...the winner going through to the next round and one step closer to immortality...er...or bragging rights (just as good right). To keep everything fair I have decided that Debate-amania will be 100% anonymous, meaning that people vote for what is being said and not who it is being said by because after a while this could turn in to one big popularity contest which is not what this is about.

As with every contest there are some boring rules and deadlines I would expect you to follow to keep everything running smoothly.

Deadlines (These may change)

  • Opinions will be messaged to you on Sunday evening (usually after 7:30pm - due to work commitments)
  • All opinions must be PM'd to me by midnight of Wednesday of that week, giving you three days to write your statement
  • Opinions will be posted on Thursday and voting will open
  • The deadline for votes to be in is Sunday by noon and results will be posted a few hours later and new topics will be handed out at random


Rules

  • Each statement has a word limit*, for every 100 words over this limit a deduction of 1 point will be made to your vote score...meaning if you ended up winning 9-7 but your statement was over 800 words you would end up losing 7-6.
  • If you miss the deadline to PM me your show then your opponent is given an automatic win (this is to stop making the contest run for too long).
  • If you fail to vote you will be deducted 3 points.
  • As this contest is anonymous, if you reveal which statement is yours before voting closes then you will be deducted 5 points (harsh I know)
  • In the case of a draw, my vote will be final in deciding the winner.


*for the round of 16 and quarter finals the word limit will be 500 words
*the semi finals will have a word limit of 1000 words

and the final will consist of three questions, 1000 words each, ending with one winner in the
three stages of hell Debate-amania main event!


THE OPINION OF DEATH!
For the first three rounds there will be the dreaded opinion of death, an opinion so far out there that it would take a genius to win their round...if you are given this question and manage to win your round then you go in to the next round with the choice of which opinion you defend next meaning you could put yourself up against the next unlucky person to draw the OOD! There will be no opinion of death in the final but if you manage to win the OOD in the semi final...you could go in to the final with the opinion of your choice.

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Like I said, this is just an idea at the moment...I don't have every opinion in mind and the rules/deadlines may change if people suggest better ideas...the OOD could be scrapped or maybe even in the first two rounds there could be two of them...anyway, if you're interested then post in here and I'll put your name on the list...I'm looking for 16 people to join as I think that's a good number to kick of the first ever Debate-amania championship with and as always it's first come first serve.

I'm also open to suggestions for opinions that should be debated or OOD's though I have a couple in mind already.

I will leave sign up open for two weeks, if the 16 people aren't found by then I'll give up on the idea...if we get more than 16 people I may consider holding a bigger tournament.


Signed up so far: 3/16

  1. Dr Gregory House MD
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  4. Uryu Ishida
  5. Paul Mac 6CW
  6. MetalMotty
  7. Adam D
  8. Antlord xviperx
  9. Hero
  10. Dolphin Ziggler
  11. Kay Fabe
  12. Mr H
  13. The Great Marty H
  14. TopoftheChops
  15. Gregers
  16. JJJohnson



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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Mon 08 Jul 2013, 12:00 pm

I'll volunteer if you need folk viper thumbsup

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Post by Fernando Mon 08 Jul 2013, 12:02 pm

Ill give it a go i can argue about anything even when im wrong im like a woman on her period drumroll

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Post by x12x Mon 08 Jul 2013, 12:05 pm

The more the merrier House! I'll add you to the list...I'm also looking for opinions to debate...I have a load written down but they're all mainly based around WWE/WWF and the bigger stars of wrestling so if you have any suggestions then let me know Smile

EDIT: I'll add you too Nando.

Also, if anyone see's that the deadlines are too short or the word limit is a bit harsh then suggest changes...I'm thinking about having a 500 word limit for the round of 16 and the quarter finals, a 1000 word limit for the semi's and then for the final:

3 opinions debated, 1000 words each...one winner.

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Post by kingraf Mon 08 Jul 2013, 12:13 pm

I'll join. Ive always believed you can win any debate so long as you ignore the facts, time to prove it!
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Post by x12x Mon 08 Jul 2013, 12:21 pm

Added Raf. I look forward to seeing some factless debates...I'm actually trying to get a group of statements/opinions that can be won on opinion alone...facts may help but I like the idea of an opinion winning this.

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Post by Uryu Ishida Mon 08 Jul 2013, 1:48 pm

ahh go on, sign me up :P

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 08 Jul 2013, 2:30 pm

Go on then Smile

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Post by MetalMotty Mon 08 Jul 2013, 2:43 pm

sign me up!

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Post by Mr H Mon 08 Jul 2013, 2:58 pm

2 years ago I would have said yes but I literally cannot be arsed to engage in a debate about pro-wrestling right now. Enthusiasm is hard to come by.

I'll happily read and vote though OK 

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Post by Adam D Mon 08 Jul 2013, 3:08 pm

I wii put myself forward as we'll.

One thing I would like to suggest though is that you don't have a debate such as TNA is better than WWE because no matter how good a case for tna over wwe may be, the are some people on here that will vote wwe without even reading or considering a debaters case.

I would also make the debates anonymous ( to avoid favouritism or in my case bad will!)

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Post by Guest Mon 08 Jul 2013, 3:23 pm

I know, i'll be in, I actually haven't commented for a while so you can shut up

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Post by Hero Mon 08 Jul 2013, 3:24 pm

Count me in V.I.P.er

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Post by Mr H Mon 08 Jul 2013, 4:54 pm

I see the off topic comments got deleted, and rightly so.

Seems Nando can give it but can't take it. Always been the case. Nevermind.

Hell count me in for this viper, i'll give it a try.

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon 08 Jul 2013, 4:58 pm

Debate-amania sign up! 1347041234 

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Post by x12x Mon 08 Jul 2013, 5:10 pm

At work at the moment so I'll add people when I'm back...this should be fun!

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 08 Jul 2013, 6:58 pm

I'm sure I can argue poorly, I've been doing it for years

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Post by x12x Mon 08 Jul 2013, 8:24 pm

Adam D wrote:I wii put myself forward as we'll.

One thing I would like to suggest though is that you don't have a debate such as TNA is better than WWE because no matter how good a case for tna over wwe may be, the are some people on here that will vote wwe without even reading or considering a debaters case.

I would also make the debates anonymous ( to avoid favouritism or in my case bad will!)

haha I actually have a list of ideas for debates and the top one is WWE vs TNA so I'll take that one off because you're right...brand loyalty will sometimes be the defining factor, if you have any ideas for debates then let me know in a message.

The debates will be anonymous for that exact reason...everything will go through me and if people reveal their topic or which one they posted before the votes close then they get 5 points deducted...I'm being super strict with all of this haha.


just checked and we have 10 people already...if we can get 6 more and some good suggestions the first round could be up by next Monday Smile

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:06 pm

I'll make up the numbers too, should have a bit of time

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Post by Mr H Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:10 pm

Me too

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Post by x12x Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:22 pm

You're both added, I'll be posting the first 8 debates soon for you guys to agree on...then I'll get you all to say a random number between 1-16 and that will decide which one you get.

Obviously I'll mix it up randomly so you won't know what you'll be getting...the first opinion won't mean it's number one.

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Post by x12x Tue 09 Jul 2013, 9:12 am

Four people needed!

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Post by The Last Outlaw Tue 09 Jul 2013, 10:25 am

Go on i will give it a go

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Post by x12x Tue 09 Jul 2013, 3:14 pm

If we get the last three people by tonight I'll get all the statements ready for tomorrow and we'll be able to do our first round next week.

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Post by TopoftheChops Tue 09 Jul 2013, 3:43 pm

I'll give it a go

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Post by x12x Tue 09 Jul 2013, 3:59 pm

Any suggestions for statements to debate?

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Post by MetalMotty Tue 09 Jul 2013, 4:23 pm

Dean Ambrose- is he all that? - Does he live up to the hype and can he go further?
 
Why did Sting paint Hogans Face? - Could the past sting and hogan fueds have been bigger and better?
 
Did Rakishi really do it for the Rock? - could a Heel turn have actually worked for him?
 
Did Steve Austin have a hearing problem when other people promoed? -Is this one of the worst or one of the best thing to have done the what? routine

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Post by Gregers Tue 09 Jul 2013, 4:28 pm

Go on then, im in

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Post by x12x Tue 09 Jul 2013, 4:34 pm

Added you Gregers...one spot left!

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Post by JJJohnson Tue 09 Jul 2013, 4:34 pm

I will give it a whirl. May as well for a little debate.

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Post by x12x Tue 09 Jul 2013, 4:35 pm

We have everyone! Sweet...I'll be deciding the first 8 topics today and probably posting them on here for some feedback before handing them out to you guys at the weekend.

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Post by x12x Tue 09 Jul 2013, 5:30 pm

How is this for the first ever Opinion of death:

The Finger Poke Of Doom was a good idea.

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Post by x12x Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:55 pm

Guys I have the first 8 opinions to be debated, they've been randomised and are ready to be handed out!

*Smark chants hurt the product
*ECW was a bad thing for the world of professional wrestling
*Hulk Hogan has harmed professional wrestling more than he has helped it
*WWE's wellness policy works
*Vince Russo doesn't deserve the criticism he gets
*TNA has the potential to become the number one promotion
*The Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak should never be broken
OOD: The fingerpoke of doom was a good idea

To get your opinion please post a number between 1-16 and I'll hand it to you...first come, first serve and NO, it's not in any order so choosing one might not get you the chant question.

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:04 pm

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Post by Adam D Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:05 pm

15

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Post by Hero Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:11 pm

13 Unlucky for some!

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:14 pm

Nine

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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:18 pm

Adam... Please dont take 15, thats my lucky number! Im a cricketer by nature we might be the most superstitious bunch in history! I cant perform without my lucky number!

Failing that, 14
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Post by Adam D Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:20 pm

Go on then, I will change to 14.

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Post by The Last Outlaw Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:27 pm

Eight

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Post by Mr H Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:35 pm

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Post by x12x Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:38 pm

I'm going to wait until tomorrow after work, by then if there are numbers left over I'll give them out randomly and hand out all of the opinions that you'll be debating. The deadline for the first round will be this.

Opinions handed out: ASAP (hopefully tomorrow or Friday)
Deadline to be message to me: Midnight, Wednesday 17th (seven days to write it)
Vote deadline: Midnight, Friday 19th
Vote revealed: Saturday 20th (I'll aim for midday)

After that though we'll go to the normal deadlines of Sunday to Sunday.

Taken so far:
1, 7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 15

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Post by x12x Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:43 pm

So, looking at the topics on offer...Which one do you want the most and which do you want to avoid like the plague?

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:45 pm

As it's just opinion based I don't mind - I'd argue red was blue if I had to so as long as im allowed to make wild assumptions about the topic and not rely on any facts at all we'll be fine

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Post by Mr H Wed 10 Jul 2013, 4:00 pm

My knowledge on ECW is really limited so i'd like to stay clear of that. I'd give any of the others a crack though.

What do you mean about if we don't vote we get deducted 3 points? I'm a bit unclear on the voting side of things.

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Post by Adam D Wed 10 Jul 2013, 4:07 pm

I like and have opinions on all of the subjects so happy to get any!

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Post by x12x Wed 10 Jul 2013, 4:12 pm

Ok so when I post all of the debates you will have two/three days to read them and vote on each debate which opinion you thought was the best argued.

So lets say you didn't vote and your debate was tied 8 to 8, not voting would take 3 votes off you leaving it 8 to 5 in your opponents favour, meaning that by not voting you went from drawing to being out.

Is that clearer? Basically if you don't vote or if you reveal which opinion you are debating you will told off...do both and you can practically kiss your chances goodbye haha

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Post by MetalMotty Wed 10 Jul 2013, 4:33 pm

ill take number 12

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Post by Uryu Ishida Wed 10 Jul 2013, 4:57 pm

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Post by Mr H Wed 10 Jul 2013, 5:01 pm

Cheers for clearing that up viper, but surely we are only going to vote for ourself? Is that allowed?

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