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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 9:54 am

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:49 pm

I'd take my 340 predo in a heartbeat. One of Bell, Prior or Bairstow HAS to step up and put some runs on the board. Trott can't do this all on his lonesome.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:49 pm

englands batting worries always looked likely to be exploited by an attack that were much respected.
Looking like aussie have a big edge in this game already.

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:49 pm

Siddle again ...gets KP now

Australia will be happy to have three down without really bowling consistently well. Siddle just put that in the right area and a rather lazy push did the rest.

Bell has some work to do...would be a good time to come back to form.

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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:50 pm

Look it up on cricinfo. Albert averages 102.5 in three test, Jonathan crept up to 92 this innings (will come down barring a huge knock), and Bradman averages 90
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:51 pm

Trott and Bell are made for this situation to be fair...

Lets all hope for 3 hours of boring cricket

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Post by Scrumpy Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:54 pm

Prediction 248 all out.
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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:55 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Mike still banging that tune that root can't open!!

jeas he could score a double hundred and you would still be that stubborn!

I haven't ever said that. I said he looked edgy and nervous, which was understandable given it was the first morning of the first ashes test. I said in the past that I thought he was ideal for the middle order, and that I'm not convinced he'll be a success as an opener and won't be until he proves me otherwise. How that adds up to "Root can't open" I have no idea... You need to stop being quite so defensive - everyone recognises that Root is something quite a bit special, and that he's young, but that doesn't mean he should be entirely immune to criticism. Today's innings was not as solid as could have been hoped for.

Pietersen gets a good one from Siddle, the ball's swinging a fair bit at the moment. The previous shot (which he hit for 4) was probably worse as he chased it, but not the right length to drive and he got dragged out in front (which is his natural technique). A good piece of bowling. England need a partnership now.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:57 pm

King graf you are right!!

just checked

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:01 pm

I still can't believe that in the era where we had Hick, Ramps et al we were so dismal...imagine having someone of Hick's calibre coming in right now!

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:03 pm

Back in that day Aus were so good though!! these days i think i would back NZ against them Wink

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:04 pm

Aside from the wicket, Australia have controlled the pace since lunch. 5 overs and just 3 scoring shots for 8 runs. Watson doing a good job to back up Siddle.

Trott still looks good, but someone needs to stay with him.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:04 pm

yeah it's not a great England team. weaker than last time and Aussie stronger.

Probably 2-1 to the aussies and 4-1 in the winter I'd guess.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:05 pm

Bells fav shot!

good 4

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:09 pm

Of course as I write that Siddle bowls a wild one outside off and then gifts a long hop for Bell to get off the mark...

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Post by hodge Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:12 pm

Could have sworn I heard aussies quacking as the bowler was running in for Bell when he was on 0 Laugh 

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Post by Scrumpy Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:25 pm

Good toss to lose!
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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:25 pm

England falling apart. Could be all out for 200 today. Aussie probably have this game after their bowling shows itself a class above England's struggling batting lineup.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:27 pm

Scrumpy wrote:Good toss to lose!


And a crazy captain who chooses to put a poor batting side out in that cloud.

Aussie have batted so well on the warm ups I'd expect them to get 400-500 now.

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:28 pm

So much for 10-0 eh Beefy picard

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:29 pm

Siddle strikes again ! With a lot if help from Trott , who dragged that back from about deep point...

But three for Siddle now and he is rather showing up his younger team mates.clap 

Trott looked totally in control until then...but the England ship is listing a bit at 124/4.

Up to the Gingers now...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:30 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:So much for 10-0 eh Beefy picard

He might be right, just the other way around.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:31 pm

Cook, KP and now Trott getting themselves out. Not good.

Time for Bell and Bairstow to show some form.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:32 pm

alfie wrote:Siddle strikes again !  With a lot if help from Trott , who dragged that back from about deep point...

But three for Siddle now and he is rather showing up his younger team mates.clap 

Trott looked totally in control until then...but the England ship is listing a bit at 124/4.

Up to the Gingers now...

A bit? They've blown it from the coin toss Alfie. Often the first day gives you a feel for the ashes. Last time it felt like England's time, this feel 100% Aussies year.

England had a much better team and are now worse, Aussie the reverse.

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:34 pm

A funny case that perhaps of a batsman being in too good form for his own good. Trott usually would have just left that as it wasn't quite full enough to drive, but possibly because he was hitting the ball so sweetly and moving so well, saw it as a scoring opportunity and thus went after it.

Australia on top at the moment, but a long way to go. If Anderson can bowl a bit in these conditions...

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:35 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
Azzy Mahmood wrote:So much for 10-0 eh Beefy picard

He might be right, just the other way around.

Slight overreaction trebs Very Happy 

Aus on top right now , but a long way to go. Even if England fail to recover to a par score (whatever that is ) , I will back the bowlers to get them back in the game.

Botham was just channeling Glen McGrath . Or perhaps he was drunk...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:35 pm

Oh and every time I've had a look a wicket has gone.

I think I'll cancel sky when the deal I have ends. I can never watched them without failure from them.


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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:42 pm

Nah , trebs ...hang in there...

We need your talents at reversing Smile 

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:45 pm

There's no perhaps in Beefy's case, he's always drunk.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:47 pm

First things first, the Ashes is finally here Yahoo 

England have been very disappointing with the bat today, Cook in particular. Trott and Root batted well. Hopefully Bell can get an overdue big score, i did say it at work earlier for the record, he will be our main in this test match. Bairstow a bit of pressure on him to get a score, however Compton has disappointed with the bat for Somerset this week. Hopefully Prior can get his usual 50 odd score and Swann can continue the fine work he did at Essex last week.

One thing, the crowd have been dead i blame Trent Bridge, for banning the Barmy Army #Wan*ers

Don't panic yet!

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Post by Scrumpy Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:51 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:First things first, the Ashes is finally here Yahoo 

England have been very disappointing with the bat today, Cook in particular. Trott and Root batted well. Hopefully Bell can get an overdue big score, i did say it at work earlier for the record, he will be our main in this test match. Bairstow a bit of pressure on him to get a score, however Compton has disappointed with the bat for Somerset this week. Hopefully Prior can get his usual 50 odd score and Swann can continue the fine work he did at Essex last week.

One thing, the crowd have been dead i blame Trent Bridge, for banning the Barmy Army #Wan*ers

Don't panic yet!

Comptons a broken man, both he and Somerset have been shafted by the England set up.
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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:52 pm

The next 8 months are so huge for Australia. Back to back Ashes series, then a tour to SA. If they win the lot, probably the greatest little period in Aus history.
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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 2:56 pm

And with possibly their worst side in my 31 years on this planet too.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:03 pm

If they win the lot I will eat my Laptop

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:06 pm

Come on Ginger assasins!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:09 pm

This Agar is typical of a young spinner.

Bowls 3/4 good balls in an over, but 1/2 really rubbish ones that let the pressure off
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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:11 pm

England scoring almost 3/4 of their runs in boundaries - an indication that there have been plenty of loose balls but also that the outfield is fast and the pitch fairly evenly paced.

Australia need to tighten things up again, they've been too loose to these two.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:13 pm

alfie wrote:Nah , trebs ...hang in there...

We need your talents at reversing Smile 
trying, day one of the ashes is a stressful time.

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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:14 pm

Well the game is finely poised now. Add two wickets to this score and Australia are looking good, add another 50 runs and you have to think England are back in the driving seat.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:14 pm

Cracking shot

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:17 pm

This has been an excellent advert for defensive captaincy - far too many boundaries through areas which should be cut off by having a sweeper - I make that 6 in the last 20 minutes or so which would have been singles to a deep point. If you take off even 10 or 12 boundaries from the England score and replace them by singles, it's a very different look.

I know it's very fashionable to view attacking captaincy as the bees knees, but today Clarke has got it wrong - having the odd defensive fielder can be a good thing.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:19 pm

bell and bairstow- the two players in the fireing line and (touch wood) pulling this back in our favour

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:21 pm

I am going to shut up:furious:

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:22 pm

Another poor innings by Ian Bell. Now it could be time to bite those finger nails.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:23 pm

Great use of the word injudicious by Strauss though. Take the positives.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:24 pm

Well Matty P and Jonny B could score some very quick runs out here
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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:25 pm

JDizzle wrote:Great use of the word injudicious by Strauss though. Take the positives.

Laugh
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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:25 pm

Okay, I'm saying it for about the 55th time - I want Ian Bell out of this England team.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:26 pm

Everytime we seem to be inching ahead we lose another wicket.
Peter Siddle FFS!!

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:27 pm

These regular wickets have really shattered England. Siddle Whisky 
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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 3:28 pm

Pete Siddle will become a legend in the fall!
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