What next for Chisora?

After Chisora's win over the unbeaten Malik Scott what next for 'del boy'?

Frank Warren confirmed Chisora would fight on the 21st September against an unconfirmed opponent. Who do you think that opponent will be? My guess is either thompson or Price or wilder who he was due to fight previously before it fell through.

Chisora has also said that he wants to go back after the klitschkos. Will a victory against a decent opponent in september result in Chisora getting a shot at the klitschkos?

Price and Del should have a few more learning (confidence building) fights. I don't think Price will fight Del.

Given Del's near suicidal career path I wouldn't put it past him to fight Wilder or Thompson next. We have to remember, Del has less than half the number of fights as Malik and he had fought two of the top 3 HWs in the world....

Del is still a novice and needs to learn. He needs some challenging but winnable fights. He should fight the domestic and EU scene for a bit and a few American's on the slide.

Happytravelling wrote:Price and Del should have a few more learning (confidence building) fights. I don't think Price will fight Del.

Given Del's near suicidal career path I wouldn't put it past him to fight Wilder or Thompson next. We have to remember, Del has less than half the number of fights as Malik and he had fought two of the top 3 HWs in the world....

Del is still a novice and needs to learn. He needs some challenging but winnable fights. He should fight the domestic and EU scene for a bit and a few American's on the slide.

I agree in just 21 fights chisora has already faced Klitschko, Haye, Fury, Helenius, Malik scott, Sexton and danny williams.

I just can't see chisora wanting a few easy fights, I reckon he will jump straght back in with the big boys and I think Thompson or Wilder are the most likely.

Not sure what easier fights there are out there for chisora if he did decide to take an easier fight. manuel charr is an option or possibly pulev who now does not have an oppoent after fury pulled out.

Why Price? You want his career over? Del has been matched tough of late. He needs some wins to boost his bank balance and then let him go against the big names. Probably some former eastern euro contender.

azania wrote:Why Price? You want his career over? Del has been matched tough of late. He needs some wins to boost his bank balance and then let him go against the big names. Probably some former eastern euro contender.

I do think Chisora is all wrong for price. I said after the skelton fight that a pressure fighter like chisora would easily beat price.

Sadly, I think you're right and he'll probably fight Wilder or Thompson. Wilder is winnable but Thompson is a step too far. I thought Del had only had 16 fights till tonight. Malik 34.... I think.

Del needs rounds and confidence under his belt. Mcdermott, Skelton etc. at domestic level or as Azania put it, one of the E EU former contenders. Maybe the likes of Barratt etc. if they are still fighting.

Happytravelling wrote:Sadly, I think you're right and he'll probably fight Wilder or Thompson. Wilder is winnable but Thompson is a step too far. I thought Del had only had 16 fights till tonight. Malik 34.... I think.

Del needs rounds and confidence under his belt. Mcdermott, Skelton etc. at domestic level or as Azania put it, one of the E EU former contenders. Maybe the likes of Barratt etc. if they are still fighting.

21 fights now and 17 wins.

I do think chisora would beat wilder. I honestly think wilder is a hype job. Thompson is far more difficult but i just think at 42/43 i don't think he will have the fitness/stamina or power to keep chisora off him and the pace chisora will set would surely tire thompson.

Didnt know the WBO title was up for grabs last night. When did Wlad abdicate

Wbo international title Kingraf - rather than strictly national WORLD heavyweight title. What a bunch of nobs

Happytravelling wrote:Sadly, I think you're right and he'll probably fight Wilder or Thompson. Wilder is winnable but Thompson is a step too far. I thought Del had only had 16 fights till tonight. Malik 34.... I think.

Del needs rounds and confidence under his belt. Mcdermott, Skelton etc. at domestic level or as Azania put it, one of the E EU former contenders. Maybe the likes of Barratt etc. if they are still fighting.

Dunno Happytravelling, Thompson is genuinely good and a darn lot better than most (Including myself) thought before Price was spanked twice by him, but Wilder is a genuine unknown, we know where Thompson levels out, we don't with Wilder. Think both are winnable but I think I'd prefer to go in with Thompson rather than Wilder if I were in Del Boys shoes, Wilder just seems.... Scary. That unknown quantity with that kind of athleticism and power just seems so physically imposing. Then again Del Boy seems to have absolutely no fear of anyone, or the blokes just too stupid?

Alex, I see what you mean but like CS, I have a feeling there is a good reason an ex Olympic bronze medallist has had so many fights without fighting a live opponent.

It maybe Wilder's corner believe that, with a limited amateur career, he needs experience. But then, he is bowling over tomato cans in under a round he can't be getting experience.

I maybe being cynical, but I think he has some fundamental flaws that his corner have tried very hard not to expose him too. Either chin or stamina.

Although its unfair to compare Scott to Wilder, as Scott had some time off with injury, it is valid to compare both of those to Del, who also had a very limited amateur career, not even close to an Olympic medal but in his 14th fight takes on Fury and in his 17th and 18th takes on two top 3 HWs (SC, you're right, he has had 21. I was thinking of wins.. doh!). Those who give Scott and Wilder slack for inexperience etc. have to give even more to Del.

If I am right, and Wilder has some fundamental flaws, Del will find those out, providing he rides the storm. Thompson is a smarter fighter and be more of a challenge, IMO.

Fair views, can't really argue with it, and maybe I'm just a little more on the Wilder hype train (Or just in desperate hope for the HW Division to have some real excitement with this guy hopefully being a genuine threat to something) and would rather face Thompson than Wilder to give Wilder more credit bowling over nobodies and Harrison.

Thompson is for sure a smarter fighter, however he is also 42ish(?) and surely in the very twilight of his career. The last thing he needs is a strong pressure fighter making him work every second, as opposed to Wilder and IF (big if) he genuinely is all that he is made out to be, and his power does last and his power is as incredible as we think it may be, and he actually does have a plan B and can box then Dereck would be in for a seriously bumpy ride. Just that unknown quantity of just how good is he would scare the bejesus out of me.

I didn't think much of del boy last night and think after the haye fight he is miles away from k-bro fight again. Charr wouldn't be a bad call.

I thought his breathing in between rounds was very heavy as well. Anybody else question his stamina?

Nerves probably. We'll see in his next fight

I don't know who Chisora fights next but Thompson and Wilder beat him for me. He looked very slow to me last night and vulnerable than before. Scott was winning and the finish, well, that was suspect to say the least

I wish Del would use his jab more. It looked very snappy when he worked it but I think Malik's reflexes made him think twice too often to really get into a rhythm with it. That and he was more interesting loading up on body shots which wasn't a bad tactic.

Happytravelling wrote:Price and Del should have a few more learning (confidence building) fights. I don't think Price will fight Del.

Given Del's near suicidal career path I wouldn't put it past him to fight Wilder or Thompson next. We have to remember, Del has less than half the number of fights as Malik and he had fought two of the top 3 HWs in the world....

Del is still a novice and needs to learn. He needs some challenging but winnable fights. He should fight the domestic and EU scene for a bit and a few American's on the slide.

Chisora and Price won't fight because they are both assets of Boxnation who haven't got many and seeing as Chisora has got his head slapped in on so many occasions and everybody still talks about him on here as a prospect........Then Price must still be considered a prospect also...losing twice..

As there is so much money in the heavy division...The fight wouldn't make sense........

i think that Del Boy is sitting comfortably in the "gatekeeper" role between euro (and equivalent) and the top boys.

so i guess the next for Chisora is whoever feels they line up against K'bros, dont think it will be Wilder yet though.

The Klitschkos will probably give Chisora another match. I like the sound of Price against Chisora. Price needs to work on his stamina and Chisora could test that.

Derek is now mandatory for Pulev

Not what he needs. Needs a couple of assured wins in my opinion. Needed a couple of assured wins a year or two ago but there ya go...

Still, should be a good fight.

I think I'm in the minority but I like Dereck and actually think he's half decent. Hope he gets a couple of wins under his belt, for me if he rematched Fury and came in shape he'd beat him and I reckon he takes out Price too.

Why do you like him..If you don't mind me asking..?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why do you like him..If you don't mind me asking..?

I like his style of fighting, lots of action and a very high tempo fighter.

I actually like the Pulev fight for him. Chisora has alot of big fight experience now and he will always give it a go. I dont really think he needs a few softs fights. It will also be a good test for Pulev. They are two of the more willing heavyweights out there who havent been content to pile up masses of journeymen level fights and have taken risks.

Apparently its a mandatory for the European title rather than an eliminatr for a world title so theres a chance Pulev could vacate and plow on with trying to get a title shot.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why do you like him..If you don't mind me asking..?

Don't think he's as bad as everyone makes him out to be, think he's actually not a bad guy, just says a lot of things to get headlines etc and plays the "bad guy" role. He's no saint mind.

Think he's also generally decent to watch and always seems to give it his all when he's in the ring.

Alex, I agree. In a division not exactly chocked full of talent, I don't think his fundamentals are as bad as people make out. His jab and head movement can be decent, when he chooses to use them. He's not as feather fisted as people make out, his chin is OK and, most importantly, he has heart.

I'm not trying to say by any means he is great. But, it is a weak division where there are the K bros a step to Haye and then a bigger gap to the rest who, quite frankly, are all pretty average.

If he had been coached/managed properly he might have become a more accomplished fighter. But maybe he struggles to get motivated for anything other than the challenges.

Maybe an EU title is what he needs. A bauble, winnable and challenge. In that case the Pulev fight might be good for him.

According to reports this morning Chisora has been installed as mandatory to Pulev's euro belt. Good fight if it comes off. A win would catapult Dereck back into the rankings and title contention.

The sad thing is a guy that has lost four of his last six fights...has a realistic chance of winning a piece of the same title Joe Louis once held when the Klits retire........

A sad day it would be If/when this...vile, spitting, abusing.. shallow piece of vomit wins the greatest prize in sports..

His definitely not feather fisted, he seriously rocked Vitali, something not seen since Sanders... In power terms, thats pretty exalted company.
Chin wise he stands up to the rest i think. A prime Vitali would have had him out of there much sooner I feel, but regardless of that it took a serious of flush hits from Haye to be stopped, not knocked out, stopped. He can hit and take a hit... If someone could just teach him the fundamentals, he could probably take a piece of the HW pie.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The sad thing is a guy that has lost four of his last six fights...has a realistic chance of winning a piece of the same title Joe Louis once held when the Klits retire........

A sad day it would be If/when this...vile, spitting, abusing.. shallow piece of vomit wins the greatest prize in sports..

Jersey Joe Walcott lost five of his last ten before knocking out Ezzard Charles to become THE heavyweight champion.