England VS Scotland Discussion

by Colan (niner) Sun 11 Aug 2013, 12:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

Quite looking forward to this game, anyone know what sort of attendance is expected? I reckon could be closer than people think. A few of my English mates reckon 4-0 or 5-0 wins but just don't think that'll happen tbh, hopefully I'm not wrong! Wish game culd have been at Hampden so there would have been cracking atmosphere but I'm hoping Wembley surprises me although I'm not expecting it. I hope to see Bridcutt play, not seen too much of him but impressed by limited amount I've seen. And I hope Rooney plays too.

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 4:40 pm

CFCNick wrote:You can't appreciate the quality of the team we had in 2006. You were only nine.

Ashley Cole, JT, Rio, Lampard, Joe Cole and Gerrard all in their prime, Rooney would have been great but got injured in an accident with Paolo Ferreira. Beckham still had it. The subs bench wasn't so inspiring (17 year old Theo, 19 year old Lennon, and 21 year old Downing, also had Jenas) but the team we had from 2003 to 2007 was fantastic.

Without a dodgy ref in Euro 2004 we would have won it. Fully fit Rooney in 2006? Who knows? We had the chance to be what Spain are now and all of those players are old/didn't fulfil their potential. It'll probably be another 3 years until the current crop reach that quality.

Or was I just a naïve teenager like you are???

10 dear boy, 10. And the depth to that English team was rather poor, coupled with the fact that it wasn't a cohesive unit. As soon as Owen injured himself against Sweden, you knew it wasn't going to be our year, simply because we were reliant on a half-fit Rooney and Crouch. We were rubbish that tournament, and I always expected us to be.

2004 though I agree. Yes we should have won in 2004. And we probably would have done if Rooney hadn't broken his foot against Portugal.

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 4:45 pm

Nine sounds better. Wink

I'll always remember the Lampard goal in that Portugal game. The way he swivelled on the spot. Gorgeous. notworthy

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 4:47 pm

CFCNick wrote:Nine sounds better.

I'll always remember the Lampard goal in that Portugal game. The way he swivelled on the spot. Gorgeous.

Ah, memories. Will never understand how England didn't win that game, and the tournament.

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 4:53 pm

We didn't win because Sol Campbell climbed over JT to win the game and the ref mistook JT's white England shirt for a red Portugal one.

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 5:03 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-losing-scotland-wembley-could-2161344

England need to win tonight to boost their chances of getting a kinder group at next summer's carnival in Brazil.

Mind you, I wouldn't mind if England did have a tough group, as they seem to do better at tournaments with a harder group than with an easier group.

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 5:46 pm

CFCNick wrote:We didn't win because Sol Campbell climbed over JT to win the game and the ref mistook JT's white England shirt for a red Portugal one.

Have a dose of fantasy land:

Spoiler:

If only!

by Colan (niner) Wed 14 Aug 2013, 5:58 pm

Scots fan arrested for dancing naked in fountain at Trafalgar Square. It has begun. Prepare.

oh and don't cut our national anthem short like Wales tried, you'll just be embarassesd like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN5DqlkjLHk

This is war.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:00 pm

It makes me sad every time I see "Darren Fletcher - Absent". Deserves to be playing and captaining in a game like this.

by TopHat24/7 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:01 pm

Colan (niner) wrote:Scots fan arrested for dancing naked in fountain at Trafalgar Square. It has begun. Prepare.

oh and don't cut our national anthem short like Wales tried, you'll just be embarassesd like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN5DqlkjLHk

This is war.

Let's just hope you haven't sent the same scum down that went to Manchester a few years ago.

by Colan (niner) Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:04 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Colan (niner) wrote:Scots fan arrested for dancing naked in fountain at Trafalgar Square. It has begun. Prepare.

oh and don't cut our national anthem short like Wales tried, you'll just be embarassesd like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN5DqlkjLHk

This is war.
Let's just hope you haven't sent the same scum down that went to Manchester a few years ago.

That wasn't Scotland fans, that was rangers fans;) I'm one myself but many weren't Scottish if you catch my drift. Ironically Rangers fans always in trouble whereas Celtic and Scotland fans win worldwide awards for their fandom. Rangers fans in large don't support scotland, like England better half the time. Though an EPL club wouldn't bring as many fans in their wildest dreams for a match

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:28 pm

World in Motion, 3 Lions, Gazza's volley (x20). That's my preparation done. Final, and ever so slightly patriotic, predictions:

England 4-1 Scotland.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:44 pm

Hart; Walker Cahill Jagielka Baines; Gerrard (c) Cleverley Wilshere; Walcott Rooney Welbeck.

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:49 pm

England's perfect shape, and lovely to see Wilshere starting, even if it is only for 45 minutes. Possibly Welbeck down the left, with Rooney down the middle.

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 7:11 pm

Wonder how many games it will take Roy to realise how dreadful Cleverley is. If Cleverley can't even make an impact tonight, against this dire opposition, and then still gets picked for the qualifiers, then there's really no hope.

Expecting a dire game but who knows what will unfold. 3-1 England, surely they can't **** this one up.

by Kay Fabe Wed 14 Aug 2013, 7:25 pm

........................ McGregor

Hutton ... Martyn ... Hanley ... Whittaker

............ Brown (c) .. Morrison

Snodgrass ...... Maloney ....... Forrest

........................... Miller

8-3 to Scotland

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 7:27 pm

John wrote:Wonder how many games it will take Roy to realise how dreadful Cleverley is. If Cleverley can't even make an impact tonight, against this dire opposition, and then still gets picked for the qualifiers, then there's really no hope.

Expecting a dire game but who knows what will unfold. 3-1 England, surely they can't **** this one up.

But Cleverley has the most important criteria when selecting a player for the England squad. His club is Man United. The same reason Welbeck gets in and now Zaha got in.

by Kay Fabe Wed 14 Aug 2013, 7:27 pm

Hope no kiddies have got their lego with them or Hanley might try and eat it, whay a dud, we'll still pump you though warning

by Colan (niner) Wed 14 Aug 2013, 7:37 pm

I'm looking forward to national anthems now. England not very good at them so hopefully we can make some noise

by Colan (niner) Wed 14 Aug 2013, 7:57 pm

national anthem ruined again for scotland. Why the bagpipes went 100x faster than they do at hampden i have no idea, lot of noise but no cohesion!

by Fernando Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:11 pm

oh dear Hart picard

gotta be saving that sunshine

England 0-1 Pub Team

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:11 pm

Joe Hart is carrying on last seasons form.

by sodhat Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:14 pm

Fernando wrote:oh dear Hart gotta be saving that sunshine

England 0-1 Pub Team

James Morrison: Born and raised in England Laugh

by CaledonianCraig Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:24 pm

What is it then? England vastly over-rated or Scotland better than given credit for?

by Colan (niner) Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:25 pm

and that wasn't a scotland free kick? ref just doesn't want us to score 2nd. Sorry but England fans are awful in terms of noise, never impressed by them considering the big attendence

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:26 pm

Roy Hodgson has just been rushed to hospital with a health scare.

Seems he has a dodgy Hart. drumroll

by Fernando Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:29 pm

England 1-1 Pub Team

Walcott

by Dave. Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:34 pm

GAWA!

by Dave. Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:36 pm

I mean our game counts!

Nice to see England play Scotland though - should be every year, IMO.

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:44 pm

Dave. wrote:I mean our game counts!

Nice to see England play Scotland though - should be every year, IMO.

Still winning Dave?

That'll be some result if you hold on.

by Dave. Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:48 pm

Yes we are!

Boysadearhisomegamebaaissss

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:49 pm

What?

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:51 pm

I guess that cleverley assist guarantees him 10 more years in an england shirt picard

Shocking performance so far, seeing as they keep banging on about this basically is England`s best team.

by Duty281 Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:52 pm

Reminds me of an FA cup game. Underdogs score first through a plucky goal, then try and hang on. Unfortunately for Scotland, they haven't hung on. England would be 2-1 up if it wasn't for a rubbish offside call. If this friendly does anything, it reminds me of how crucial Wilshere is for next summer.

Wouldn't be surprised if it remained 1-1 now - the substitutions do tend to break up the flow of a game. Otherwise, England would cruise this.

Haven't heard the Scottish fans since Walcott scored. Whistle

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 8:58 pm

England would cruise this.......?????? Must be watching a different game. Yeah, Wilshere is important but its like he's on a different wavelength completely to anyone else. He plays this short tippy-tap football but it goes nowhere because Rooney has such dire first touch. Yeah he penetrates but Scotland have coped pretty easily.

Sub's will mix it up, expect england will just snatch it & Roy to claim we are in great shape.....the usual rubbish.

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:00 pm

The next goal (if there is one) will be key I'd imagine. England get it and they'll see it out.

Been an okay game so far.

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:06 pm

Handball!!!

by Fernando Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:07 pm

England 1-2 Her Majesty's Peasant Land

Miller 49 mins

by CaledonianCraig Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:08 pm

You f*****g beauty.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:10 pm

THE BOY DOESNT SCORE ENOUGH

by Fernando Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:10 pm

England 2-2 Scotland

You won't ever live down conceding to Welbeck so just go home now Laugh

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:10 pm

Great head.

by CaledonianCraig Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:14 pm

Hmm England embroiled in a tough scrap to beat Scotland. Where's this gulf in class? Where's this pathetic Scotland? Surely, it is an early wake up call to confirm England won't be winning the World Cup.

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:16 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Hmm England embroiled in a tough scrap to beat Scotland. Where's this gulf in class? Where's this pathetic Scotland? Surely, it is an early wake up call to confirm England won't be winning the World Cup.

It's just the underdog giving it a go. Like Liverpool do twice a season.

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:17 pm

I don't think many reasonably minded England fans really thing we have a shot at the World Cup anyway Craig. I don't.

by CaledonianCraig Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:18 pm

Hmm sounds like you write for The Sun and are burying your head in the sand to me?

by CaledonianCraig Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:20 pm

FreekShow wrote:I don't think many reasonably minded England fans really thing we have a shot at the World Cup anyway Craig. I don't.

Wise.

Anyway to me tonight is all about (for me) our performance (Scotland's) and I have seen a lot to be pleased about. Result is secondary for me - however this is the second match on the bounce where we have shown better organisation and composure and spirit.

by CFCNick Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:25 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Hmm sounds like you write for The Sun and are burying your head in the sand to me?

Nah. I'm just having a pop at Liverpool. As much as Scotland's performance has been good to see it's as much down to England haven't got a player whose season has started yet. The majority of Scotland's squad have been back for two weeks now and Kenny Miller has been playing regular competitive football since March.

by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:25 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
FreekShow wrote:I don't think many reasonably minded England fans really thing we have a shot at the World Cup anyway Craig. I don't.
Wise.

Anyway to me tonight is all about (for me) our performance (Scotland's) and I have seen a lot to be pleased about. Result is secondary for me - however this is the second match on the bounce where we have shown better organisation and composure and spirit.

My mother is Scottish Craig. You won't get me disrespecting your great land and calling you a pub team.

Lovely country thumbsup

by sodhat Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:26 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Hmm England embroiled in a tough scrap to beat Scotland. Where's this gulf in class? Where's this pathetic Scotland? Surely, it is an early wake up call to confirm England won't be winning the World Cup.

Win it?

It would be nice to just get there. We are dire.

by Fernando Wed 14 Aug 2013, 9:27 pm

England 3-2 Scotland

Rickie Lambert Smile

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