Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby, 25 October

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Glasgow Warriors  v Munster Rugby
 
Friday 25 October 2013, KO: 19:35
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
 
Referee: Ian Davies (WRU, 11th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Changleng, Bob Nevins (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: John Kirk (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)
 
LIVE on BBC ALBA/TG4
 
A. Teams:
 
I. Glasgow

15. Sean Maitland
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Byron McGuigan
12. Sean Lamont
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Duncan Weir
9. Chris Cusiter (Captain)

1. Ryan Grant
2. Pat MacArthur
3. Moray Low
4. Tim Swinson
5. Jonny Gray
6. Rob Harley
7. Tyrone Holmes
8. Josh Strauss

16. Dougie Hall
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Jon Welsh
19. Tom Ryder
20. Chris Fusaro
21. Niko Matawalu
22. Ruaridh Jackson
23. Mark Bennett
 
II.Munster
 
15 Johne Murphy
14 Andrew Conway
13 Keith Earls
12 Ivan Dineen
11 Ronan O’Mahony
10 JJ Hanrahan
09 Conor Murray

01 James Cronin
02 Mike Sherry
03 Stephen Archer
04 Donncha O’Callaghan
05 Paul O’Connell
06 Peter O’Mahony Capt.
07 Sean Dougall
08 CJ Stander

Replacements: Damien Varley, Dave Kilcoyne, BJ Botha, Billy Holland, James Coughlan, Cathal Sheridan, James Downey, Casey Laulala.
  
B. Form - head to head
 
21 Played 21
7 Wins 13
13 Losses 7
1 Draws 1
41 Tries 55
29 Conversions 40
56 Penalties 49
1 Drop Goals 1
434 Points 505
25 Avg. Age 27
 
C. Form - last season:
 
Saturday 1 December 2012, 19:45 - Thomond Park
Munster Rugby 31 - 3 Glasgow Warriors
 
Friday 29 March 2013, 20:05 - Scotstoun
Glasgow Warriors 51 - 24 Munster Rugby
 
D. Parliamo Glasgow:
 
Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/ - Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)

ME-109 wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:

ME-109 wrote:It appears that the Glasgow players and their supporters (probably over from the football) reverted to form..given their lack of ability on the pitch...

Seems like we have found today's village idiot!

And yet your own synopsis of the game is as idiotic as anything posted on here. Completely ignoring the foul play from Glasgow...

I've mentioned the things that have been witnessed and reported by people at the game and on tv. If a Glasgow player has bitten someone then they deserve a ban but so far there has been no evidence apart from O'Callaghan claiming this.
I suggest you find a new hobby other than writing stupid uneducated comments on here where people are actually having discussions about rugby.

Majestic83 wrote:

ME-109 wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:

ME-109 wrote:It appears that the Glasgow players and their supporters (probably over from the football) reverted to form..given their lack of ability on the pitch...

Seems like we have found today's village idiot!

And yet your own synopsis of the game is as idiotic as anything posted on here. Completely ignoring the foul play from Glasgow...

I've mentioned the things that have been witnessed and reported by people at the game and on tv. If a Glasgow player has bitten someone then they deserve a ban but so far there has been no evidence apart from O'Callaghan claiming this.
I suggest you find a new hobby other than writing stupid uneducated comments on here where people are actually having discussions about rugby.

I apologise profusely. Your own comments are of course highly educated, totally intelligent and naturally highly informed as well. I have seen the light.

I want to hear more about how JJ Hanrahan made a little kid cry. I think that will steer this 'debate' in an amusing direction.

Notch wrote:I want to hear more about how JJ Hanrahan made a little kid cry. I think that will steer this 'debate' in an amusing direction.

Apparently he also beat him up and took his teddy bear...couldn't expect anything else from a Kerryman.

I know, what a dick.

Wonder why there was two Police officers interviewing two club officials at main entrance after the game, any connection to any of the incidents?

Just for the record, Niko Matawalu's jersey was ripped right across the front before the game finished.

The Ref said that the citing commissioner would look into the biting incident. But one thing is for sure, DOC was absolutely raging so I'm not surprised considering how the ref ignored the incident that he wanted to sort out the person who bit him.

Yes, taking the law into his own hands. Definitely commendable behaviour...

I watched this on ALBA and I must say I didn't see any foul play from Matawalu (other than the slightly petty flop on the Munster player in the in-goal area) so if he did commit an offence it must have been off camera.

What struck me about the game was how clinical Munster were in the 2nd half. They scored a great individual try and then put up a brick wall of a defence (it was the Munster defence that won this contest). Glasgow for me were full of guts and determination but weren't sharp enough in attack, and were wasteful in spurning those shots at goal between 60 - 70 minutes. They could easily have entered those last 10 minutes only a point behind, and yet continued to hammer away at the Munster try line to no avail. Cooler heads required from Glasgow.

Re: Munster running down the clock, whilst as a Scottish rugby fan it was frustrating, let's not pretend we would have done anything different had the roles been reversed. The scrum was a mess and Munster capitalised, but I blame the ref for losing control rather than Munster. Had Glasgow been 7 points ahead with a ref unable to even spell the word scrum, you can bet that Kellock et al would have done the same in order to win the game. "Whatever it takes" and all that.

Ultimately Munster were more streetwise.

IanBru wrote:Yes, taking the law into his own hands. Definitely commendable behaviour...

and what would you think a person who bites someone would be doing ?

Off the topic of cynical / foul play etc the sooner Peter Horne comes back the better. Really missing his creative spark in the centres.

Yea, munster defended with their lives. Made 146 tackles, missing 9. Glasgow 69/11. Peter O'Mahony made 19, missing none - in fact none of Munster's backrow missed a tackle.

O'Mahony is in astonishingly good form, and those statistics confirm my view as regards the Munster defence. That period between 60-70 minutes where Jonny Gray and Josh Strauss were hammering away and Munster didn't yield was absolutely key.

[quote="Majestic83"][quote="ME-109"]

Majestic83 wrote: If a Glasgow player has bitten someone then they deserve a ban but so far there has been no evidence apart from O'Callaghan claiming this.

I suspect from what I know of O'Callaghan then he would not make the accusation so strongly without it having happened. He is not known as a cheat

TJ wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:

ME-109 wrote:

Majestic83 wrote: If a Glasgow player has bitten someone then they deserve a ban but so far there has been no evidence apart from O'Callaghan claiming this.

I suspect from what I know of O'Callaghan then he would not make the accusation so strongly without it having happened.  He is not known as a cheat

However if he has taken the law into his own hands then he should suffer the consequences.

ME-109 wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:

ME-109 wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:

ME-109 wrote:It appears that the Glasgow players and their supporters (probably over from the football) reverted to form..given their lack of ability on the pitch...

Seems like we have found today's village idiot!

And yet your own synopsis of the game is as idiotic as anything posted on here. Completely ignoring the foul play from Glasgow...

I've mentioned the things that have been witnessed and reported by people at the game and on tv. If a Glasgow player has bitten someone then they deserve a ban but so far there has been no evidence apart from O'Callaghan claiming this.
I suggest you find a new hobby other than writing stupid uneducated comments on here where people are actually having discussions about rugby.

I apologise profusely. Your own comments are of course highly educated, totally intelligent and naturally highly informed as well. I have seen the light.

Glad to hear it  

Sin é wrote:Just for the record, Niko Matawalu's jersey was ripped right across the front before the game finished.

In that case, surely the key issue from the whole match is this expose into the poor quality of these Macron jerseys.

Technical sportswear. Technical tissue paper, more like.

George Carlin wrote:

Sin é wrote:Just for the record, Niko Matawalu's jersey was ripped right across the front before the game finished.

In that case, surely the key issue from the whole match is this expose into the poor quality of these Macron jerseys.

Technical sportswear. Technical tissue paper, more like.

I heard from someone whose second cousin reported something about this and who might have seen it on tv so therefore i am going to make a completely hysterical somewhat informed comment on the state of the jerseys which were clearly at fault for all the goings on. In other words it was clearly Munsters fault..

See on twitter that Niko Matawalu and Conor Murray have both been cited. Matawalu for biting, Murray for striking with elbow.

Not exactly delighted with the timing of the Conor Murray citing, Reddan and Boss for Samoa doesn't float my boat... He can elbow people to his hearts content in December this isn't the week for it!

Anyone have any recollection of when in the match the "elbow" may have occured?

Can a punchup after the game be cited?

TJ wrote:Can a punchup after the game be cited?

technically not for "foul play". disrepute only. which can be tough. but the fact foul play is mentioned means it must be during the match. unless they all agreed queensberry rules in the tunnel.

The foul play is a biting and an elbow. I just wondered why no mention of the punch up in the tunnel - altho none of us know how bad it was

I had a wee look back (not at the Murray incident) but for the bite. Got the ruck it must have been at but very difficult to see anything. I saw matawalu swinging the arm a bit later on (it was one of glasgows penalties in the munster 22) but it looked innocuous as he was being held and I don't think he connected.

Obviously it depends on severity of both incidents but you would imagine if both are proven matawalu could be in serious bother. I judge you all as Ulster sit proudly atop the Fair Play League    

Scary thought here. If Niko is banned. Then who will Glasgow play at scrum half given that the AI's are in 2 weeks time and Cusiter & Pyrgos will be on Scotland duty

The elbow cited is Conor Murray on ( I think) Matowalo

GLove39 wrote:Scary thought here. If Niko is banned. Then who will Glasgow play at scrum half given that the AI's are in 2 weeks time and Cusiter & Pyrgos will be on Scotland duty

Mike Phillps? I hear he is available, cheap and can hold his own in a fight  

Glasgow is a great town for people who like to get drunk and mouth off to strangers and get glassed by neds. Mike Phillips will fit right in.

Not very funny, Notch.

Notch wrote:Glasgow is a great town for people who like to get drunk and mouth off to strangers and get glassed by neds. Mike Phillips will fit right in.

Heres another example. If i said that i would get banned...all i can say is tut tut notch...scurrilous!!!!

I love Glasgow, I've spent many happy hours there and I'd love to see what would happen to Mike Phillips' stupid face if he pulled his McDonalds stunt in some parts of that city  

What's a Ned?

Damn, I wish I'd perservered watching this game but I was getting too frustrated by the lack action by the ref against the constant Munster infringing in the first half hour so I switched off and deleted it. Sounds like I mised the excitement in the second half.

ME-109 wrote:What's a Ned?

?Chav, skanger, langer, spide...?

ValleyBoyo wrote:Damn, I wish I'd perservered watching this game but I was getting too frustrated by the lack action by the ref against the constant Munster infringing in the first half hour so I switched off and deleted it. Sounds like I mised the excitement in the second half.

I saw the second half and it was pish. glasgow attacking and dropping the ball in the backs or endlessly recycling the ball to pass to a static forward who is tackled and repeat until bored or the ref whistles. Then watch Munster taking 17 minutes to set a scrum or lineout. repeat until bored or the ref whistles.

worst game I have seen for a long time.

ME-109 wrote:What's a Ned?

Officially, it stands for Non Educated Delinquant. No, really.

Glasgow - European City of Culture (as in agar plate).

Glove, probably only one of Cusiter or Pyrgos will actually be in the Scotland matchday 23 so the other should be available, with Ali Price on the bench. This would always have been the case with Matawalu in the Fiji squad.

Like others, very disappointed in this game. Glasgow never looked like winning and the writing was on the wall when they battered the line when Munster were down to 14 and never came away with any points.

I would say Neds are a particular subset of Chavs - usually teenagers, who hang around the streets causing trouble.

We also have Educated Delinquents, who spraypaint walls with differential equations and quotes from Dostoyevsky whilst intimidating passers-by by challenging them to "street countdown" battles.

Ali Price is unfortunately out for most of the season, injured himself in the last pre season game I think. Think it was a knee injury.
Peter Jerecevich is registered as a Glasgow player for the Heineken cup so think he'll fill the bench role if Matawalu is banned.

Crap, i haven't seen Jericevich play but seems like we're scraping the barrel a bit then! I'll say it again, this is what we're left with regardless of the Matawalu verdict, since he is in the Fiji squad for the AIs, and Cusiter will probably be in the Scotland 23. Hope Jericevich is good!

Jerecevich is a pretty handy player, played for Scotland 7s and for the Scotland club team, think he is about 24, pretty short but pretty solid and has a good snipe about him and a quick pass about him. Is also a very good goal kicker. Think he has been lucky to miss out on a pro contract as would say he is better than a few of the 9s at Glasgow and Edinburgh in the past couple years.

Notch wrote:I love Glasgow, I've spent many happy hours there and I'd love to see what would happen to Mike Phillips' stupid face if he pulled his McDonalds stunt in some parts of that city  

They'd have served him his big mac?

Glasgow gets a bad rep - I think the fact that the young fellas wear socks over the trackies gives the place a more sinister edge but generally the chances of getting glassed in the chops are on par with most UK cities these days.

Even if Niko is not banned, he will miss the Dragons game as he is (for now) in the Fiji squad touring the NH.

I would imagine both Cusiter and Pygros will be available for Saturdays game.

Massive improvements required from the backs, who by and large this season have been poor.

rodders wrote:Glasgow gets a bad rep - I think the fact that the young fellas wear socks over the trackies gives the place a more sinister edge but generally the chances of getting glassed in the chops are on par with most UK cities these days.

 
Correct. However, having visited there since I was tiny and studied there for 4 years, I think that the poorer parts of Glasgow are rougher than the equivalent poorer parts of most other cities in the UK. Not a comment on the people at all, whom I love, but where it's hard, it's really really hard.

Rumours of Laulala moving to Castres.

Glasgow is no worse thanmany cities and much safer than some - London for example. I just made a joke based on the "no mean city" reputation which is well out of date.

ooooh will this mean there will be some "edge" to the Ireland v Scotland 6N game? Gives the Irish someone else to moan about about from Wales and Gatland I suppose...........

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Even if Niko is not banned, he will miss the Dragons game as he is (for now) in the Fiji squad touring the NH.

I would imagine both Cusiter and Pygros will be available for Saturdays game.

Massive improvements required from the backs, who by and large this season have been poor.  

I blame Mark Bennett.