Phillips joins Racing Metro...

by Guest Tue 3 Dec - 6:23

...as predicted and rumoured recently. Good move by him? Good move by Racing?!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25190268

by thebandwagonsociety Tue 3 Dec - 6:38

ROG, Phillips, Sexton all at the one club..... this will be interesting. The flutter, the gargle and the ego is going to be epic.

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 6:54

Plus Lydiate and Roberts.

It's almost a lions starting team...

by Guest Tue 3 Dec - 7:19

Was just thinking that Maes!

by bedfordwelsh Tue 3 Dec - 8:45

Griff,

You heard rumours about Byrne coming to RP.

by The Saint Tue 3 Dec - 8:54

News that will very much upset quinsforever.

Phillips joins Racing Metro... 1347041234

by quinsforever Tue 3 Dec - 10:13

yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then.

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 10:34

quinsforever wrote:yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then.

Regarding Phillips standing on Coopers hand, is that different to Healy standing on Coles leg?

by doctor_grey Tue 3 Dec - 10:48

Yes,
I thought it was worse.

by quinsforever Tue 3 Dec - 10:50

maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then.
Regarding Phillips standing on Coopers hand, is that different to Healy standing on Coles leg?

healy's stamp looked much worse. and it was on the ankle, a much more vulnerable joint than the leg as a whole. healy got cited, phillips hasn't yet i believe? phillips looked more in the way of serious niggle, healy's looked like it could have been a career ending injury for cole.

just realised i am defending phillips...what am i thinking!

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 10:57

How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?

by quinsforever Tue 3 Dec - 11:43

maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?

are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 11:59

quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?
are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?

Answer the question first

by doctor_grey Tue 3 Dec - 12:05

Grewcock got the following scores:
5.5, 5.7, 5.5, 5.8, but the Russian judge only gave him a 3.1.

The nerve, eh?

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 12:17

doctor_grey wrote:Grewcock got the following scores:
5.5, 5.7, 5.5, 5.8, but the Russian judge only gave him a 3.1.

The nerve, eh?

It wasn't a very nice thing he did was it Doc.

Kicking a man in the head, I am sure you can remind us of the medical repercussions of the damage done by a twenty stone bloke kicking you in the head with studs on.

None of these acts by Phillips, Healy or Grewcock are nice. They are deplorable, we don't want them to happen in the game. But they do happen.

In this case luckily no one was injured.

No one has been sighted which is not so good in the name of prevention. On the other side of this coin, slow motion cameras make Healy and Phillips act look deplorable, and maybe made Grewcocks look accidental?

Let's just hope that these things happen far less, and that the players committing these gross acts are rightfully punished for their deeds.

I don't want Mike Phillips playing for Wales in a way that could have a player injured, I don't want him doing something stupid and getting sent off, even the saintly have been sent off before and Mike is far from saintly. His stupidity could cost the team a result and the nation face massive disappointment.

by quinsforever Tue 3 Dec - 14:07

maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?
are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?
Answer the question first

how does one go about answering "how about danny grewcock kicking peel in the face...."

that's not even a question

it's nothing to do with the thread either

the reason i am not going to answer your non-question is because, as i referred to "are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?"

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 3 Dec - 20:18

quinsforever wrote:yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then.

Regardless of the ban, he is illegible for Racing in the HEC as he has played for Bayonne in an ERC tournament already this season.

by HammerofThunor Tue 3 Dec - 20:35

"He will join the club from tomorrow, Tuesday, and will be available for selection for this Saturday's Heineken Cup fixture against Harlequins in Nantes."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25190268

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 3 Dec - 20:40

Yeah but we can't trust what the Beeb says as accurate, especially around this move -:

27th November - Racing Metro deny signing of scrum-half Mike Phillips (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25131040)

2nd December - Wales scrum-half Mike Phillips joins Racing Metro (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25190268)

But seriously, unless the rules have changed this season, you were illegilable to play in any ERC tournament for two teams in one season.

by HammerofThunor Tue 3 Dec - 20:55

Yeah, I know about the issues with registering for clubs in ERC competitions. Also know the BBC get a lot wrong Smile

(although the example you posted wasn't the BBC getting it wrong and more a case of the club lying).

Just posting some quotes.

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 21:06

quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?
are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?
Answer the question first
how does one go about answering "how about danny grewcock kicking peel in the face...."

that's not even a question

it's nothing to do with the thread either

the reason i am not going to answer your non-question is because, as i referred to "are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?"

I will clarify the question for you, I will make it simpler easier for you to understand...

Is when Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005 match different to Healy or Phillips actions?

My reasoning is just above your last post.

by Guest Tue 3 Dec - 21:42

bedfordwelsh wrote:Griff,

You heard rumours about Byrne coming to RP.

No Bedford, hadn't heard that. Seems too unlikely to be true! More likely to get Shane Byrne!

Seriously though, it would be great. But I thought he was doing well in France? Or has he slipped down the pecking order now?

by Bathite Tue 3 Dec - 21:45

He's been immense for Clermont in the last 3 games i've seen. Recently quoted as saying how gutted he was to be overlooked for the Autumn ints. It's a fair point, but he won't get ahead of Halfpenny and based on age, there's no real benefit to him being in the Wales squad unless Leigh gets injured?

by maestegmafia Tue 3 Dec - 22:03

Bathite wrote:He's been immense for Clermont in the last 3 games i've seen. Recently quoted as saying how gutted he was to be overlooked for the Autumn ints. It's a fair point, but he won't get ahead of Halfpenny and based on age, there's no real benefit to him being in the Wales squad unless Leigh gets injured?

Great bloke to have as back up for Wales, he was in the Six Nations squad last year but this year Gatland said he wasn't sure Byrne would be pushing for a RWC Squad spot in two years time so wanted to give others a run ahead of him..!

I would be surprised if he went to the Dragons, they don't really need another fullback.

by Guest Tue 3 Dec - 22:14

W could always do with a quality full back. But I see it the other way; why would Byrne come to the Dragons if France is going OK?!

by munkian Tue 3 Dec - 22:21

We'll have Rhodri please, we know how to use the Talent the Turks discard

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue 3 Dec - 22:26

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
quinsforever wrote:yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then.
Regardless of the ban, he is illegible for Racing in the HEC as he has played for Bayonne in an ERC tournament already this season.

From a knowledgeable man on Leinsterfans

"Playing in the Amlin doesn't cup-tie you from the HEC, but playing in the HEC cup-ties you from the Amlin. However if Racing drop down to the Amlin he will be cup-tied by his Bayonne appearance"

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 3 Dec - 22:38

munkian wrote:We'll have Rhodri please, we know how to use the Talent the Turks discard

And vice versa thankfully. But hands of Rhodri, either of them!

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 3 Dec - 22:41

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:
quinsforever wrote:yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then.
Regardless of the ban, he is illegible for Racing in the HEC as he has played for Bayonne in an ERC tournament already this season.
From a knowledgeable man on Leinsterfans

"Playing in the Amlin doesn't cup-tie you from the HEC, but playing in the HEC cup-ties you from the Amlin. However if Racing drop down to the Amlin he will be cup-tied by his Bayonne appearance"

And now I stand corrected, and may need to apologies to the great high quality journos at the bbc for being correct in their comments egg

by munkian Tue 3 Dec - 22:45

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
munkian wrote:We'll have Rhodri please, we know how to use the Talent the Turks discard
And vice versa thankfully. But hands of Rhodri, either of them!

We've had Dan Evans and Nic Cudd off you so far, both done very well for us Very Happy

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 3 Dec - 22:49

munkian wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:
munkian wrote:We'll have Rhodri please, we know how to use the Talent the Turks discard
And vice versa thankfully. But hands of Rhodri, either of them!
We've had Dan Evans and Nic Cudd off you so far, both done very well for us

Don't forget Nathan Williams, Sam Parry, Hugh Gustafson all from the academy, and the likes of Martyn Thomas before them too. boxing

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 3 Dec - 23:49

And Adam Jones, Gavin Thomas, Aled Thomas...

by Guest Tue 3 Dec - 23:57

Aled Thomas went the other way didn't he LP? And he's still there.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 4 Dec - 0:06

He was there, then here, then there again. Up and down (the M4) like a stripper's knickers.

by Guest Wed 4 Dec - 0:10

Ahh ok, I thought he came through our ranks before going to London Welsh and then Scarlets.

Definitely more Scarlets to Dragons traffic than the other way around though! Although Rhys Thomas and Maule were perhaps missed more by us than their cast offs have been missed by them???

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 4 Dec - 0:38

Going back a bit (and including Ebbw) we have had Chris Wyatt, Matthew Watkins, Iestyn Thomas, Rhys Thomas, Adam Jones (I believe), Nathan Brew, Gareth Maule, Rhodri Gomer-Davis, and now Mike Poole.

Oh and Aled Thomas, kind of. I can't remember, but wasn't Jason Strange a turk before he went to you? Tal Selley ended up with you lot once, oh and Lyn Jones too.

by quinsforever Wed 4 Dec - 0:42

maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?
are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?
Answer the question first
how does one go about answering "how about danny grewcock kicking peel in the face...."

that's not even a question

it's nothing to do with the thread either

the reason i am not going to answer your non-question is because, as i referred to "are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?"
I will clarify the question for you, I will make it simpler easier for you to understand...

Is when Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005 match different to Healy or Phillips actions?

My reasoning is just above your last post.

no idea. don't remember it but if thats what he did and it was deliberate it should have been a red, and if missed, a 5-8 week ban. if it was like horwills then he may or may not have gotten any punishment.

and i don't care frankly because it's irrelevant. every incident is assessed on its own, according to the laws and interpretations and guidance of the time.

so how precisely is an incident 8 years ago relevant to anything on this thread FFS?

by HammerofThunor Wed 4 Dec - 0:49

quinsforever wrote:no idea. don't remember it but if thats what he did and it was deliberate it should have been a red, and if missed, a 5-8 week ban. if it was like horwills then he may or may not have gotten any punishment.

and i don't care frankly because it's irrelevant. every incident is assessed on its own, according to the laws and interpretations and guidance of the time.

so how precisely is an incident 8 years ago relevant to anything on this thread FFS?

From memory, at ruck Grewcock stepped over the ruck while Peel was going for the ball. Grewcock's foot caught Peel in the face. Deliberate? Quite probably, given his track record. But players step of the rucks like that all the time so not that surprising he got away with it (I presume he did otherwise pointless comment).

by maestegmafia Wed 4 Dec - 0:53

HammerofThunor wrote:
quinsforever wrote:no idea. don't remember it but if thats what he did and it was deliberate it should have been a red, and if missed, a 5-8 week ban. if it was like horwills then he may or may not have gotten any punishment.

and i don't care frankly because it's irrelevant. every incident is assessed on its own, according to the laws and interpretations and guidance of the time.

so how precisely is an incident 8 years ago relevant to anything on this thread FFS?
From memory, at ruck Grewcock stepped over the ruck while Peel was going for the ball. Grewcock's foot caught Peel in the face. Deliberate? Quite probably, given his track record. But players step of the rucks like that all the time so not that surprising he got away with it (I presume he did otherwise pointless comment).

He was yellow carded for it.

I used it as an example of something that actually looked a hell of a lot worse than it was. It wasn't a nice thing to do, but, despite Grewcocks reputation, it wasn't deliberate more bad timing.

Point being these things happen in games and we wish they wouldn't, 90% of them are hopefully not deliberate unlike dragging a player off by his hair or snapping someones arm or leg as they are trapped at the bottom of a ruck.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 4 Dec - 0:54

Quins - it was one of those incidents that when you watch you think Jebus why the hell would he do that, and I think (if memory serves) he got a bit of a slapping of Alfie and both got yellowed, but I am a bit hazy about it to be fair.

But like you say to be fair it is not particularly relevant to this thread, because the IRBs bans now and then seem to differ. When bans were given out before 'previous good behaviour' tended only to be considered when a player who has been around for a while was cited, where as now kids in their first season as a pro get bans reduced on 'previous good behaviour' which is a bit farcical.

by quinsforever Wed 4 Dec - 0:54

HammerofThunor wrote:
quinsforever wrote:no idea. don't remember it but if thats what he did and it was deliberate it should have been a red, and if missed, a 5-8 week ban. if it was like horwills then he may or may not have gotten any punishment.

and i don't care frankly because it's irrelevant. every incident is assessed on its own, according to the laws and interpretations and guidance of the time.

so how precisely is an incident 8 years ago relevant to anything on this thread FFS?
From memory, at ruck Grewcock stepped over the ruck while Peel was going for the ball. Grewcock's foot caught Peel in the face. Deliberate? Quite probably, given his track record. But players step of the rucks like that all the time so not that surprising he got away with it (I presume he did otherwise pointless comment).

i never assume anything about Maes posts...

by maestegmafia Wed 4 Dec - 1:07

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Quins - it was one of those incidents that when you watch you think Jebus why the hell would he do that, and I think (if memory serves) he got a bit of a slapping of Alfie and both got yellowed, but I am a bit hazy about it to be fair.

But like you say to be fair it is not particularly relevant to this thread, because the IRBs bans now and then seem to differ. When bans were given out before 'previous good behaviour' tended only to be considered when a player who has been around for a while was cited, where as now kids in their first season as a pro get bans reduced on 'previous good behaviour' which is a bit farcical.

My point was there have been numerous incidents in the game over the years that cause a stir in the press or with the fans.

Phillips was neither punished nor cited for this incident is it relevant to him signing for Racing Metro, or has it just been brought up by a poster to defame Mike Phillips...?

by quinsforever Wed 4 Dec - 1:31

have you had your sense of humour removed? i replied earlier in this thread to a funny comment from saint, with a light-hearted response, and you throw all your toys out of the pram? again? you were seriously angry and particularly pig-headed last night maes, and yet today you don't take a backward step and keep on ploughing the same grim furrow....how boring for everyone else. particularly the majority of other welsh posters who obviously don't enjoy getting tarred by association.

SAINT:
"News that will very much upset quinsforever.

Phillips joins Racing Metro... 1347041234

"

ME:
"yes, but only cause he might be playing against us this weekend. maybe he didnt get cited because everyone took pity on him having no club?

nice contrast between phillips distribution and the name of his team...guess he'll be relying on others for the "Racing" bit then."

by Guest Wed 4 Dec - 1:52

quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?
are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?
Answer the question first
how does one go about answering "how about danny grewcock kicking peel in the face...."

that's not even a question

it's nothing to do with the thread either

the reason i am not going to answer your non-question is because, as i referred to "are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?"
I will clarify the question for you, I will make it simpler easier for you to understand...

Is when Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005 match different to Healy or Phillips actions?

My reasoning is just above your last post.

no idea. don't remember it but if thats what he did and it was deliberate it should have been a red, and if missed, a 5-8 week ban. if it was like horwills then he may or may not have gotten any punishment.

and i don't care frankly because it's irrelevant. every incident is assessed on its own, according to the laws and interpretations and guidance of the time.

so how precisely is an incident 8 years ago relevant to anything on this thread FFS?

Quins in yet another aggressive retort shocker Shocked

by maestegmafia Wed 4 Dec - 1:58

Griff wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
quinsforever wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:How about Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005...?
are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?
Answer the question first
how does one go about answering "how about danny grewcock kicking peel in the face...."

that's not even a question

it's nothing to do with the thread either

the reason i am not going to answer your non-question is because, as i referred to "are you going to quote every citing incident in history? what is your point?"
I will clarify the question for you, I will make it simpler easier for you to understand...

Is when Danny Grewcock kicking Dwayne Peel in the face Wales vs England 2005 match different to Healy or Phillips actions?

My reasoning is just above your last post.

no idea. don't remember it but if thats what he did and it was deliberate it should have been a red, and if missed, a 5-8 week ban. if it was like horwills then he may or may not have gotten any punishment.

and i don't care frankly because it's irrelevant. every incident is assessed on its own, according to the laws and interpretations and guidance of the time.

so how precisely is an incident 8 years ago relevant to anything on this thread FFS?
Quins in yet another aggressive retort shocker

no griff apparently i am the protagonist... I questioned why, and apparently thats just not on...! If you ask an opinion of someone that they don't want to give it is against the rules...!!

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 4 Dec - 2:00

Ok guys lets pack the school playground stuff now, it is really getting tedious.

by Allty Wed 4 Dec - 7:24

[quote="maestegmafia"][quote="ScarletSpiderman"]Quins - it was one of those incidents that when you watch you think Jebus why the hell would he do that, and I think (if memory serves) he got a bit of a slapping of Alfie and both got yellowed, but I am a bit hazy about it to be fair.

But like you say to be fair it is not particularly relevant to this thread, because the IRBs bans now and then seem to differ. When bans were given out before 'previous good behaviour' tended only to be considered when a player who has been around for a while was cited, where as now kids in their first season as a pro get bans reduced on 'previous good behaviour' which is a bit farcical.[/quote]
My point was there have been numerous incidents in the game over the years that cause a stir in the press or with the fans.

Phillips was neither punished nor cited for this incident is it relevant to him signing for Racing Metro, or has it just been brought up by a poster to defame Mike Phillips...?

I think can handle "Defame" without any outside help Maes[/quote]

by ScarletSpiderman Thu 5 Dec - 2:01

Mike has been added to their HEC squad now as well, so I owe an apology to the Beeb for slating them earlier in this thread.

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