Wlad targeting WBC Belt

Read this on Sky Sports. If he did win it for talk sake (WBC have a pretty good relationship with K2) would Thos mean Fury, Wilder etc carry on fighting tin cans?

I hope Wlad doesn't get anywhere near the belt as his complete joke of a performance against Povetkin deserves to be held against him. You can't get away with wrestling your way through your career. It's crazy how refs allow him to do it.

Just retire Wlad, I hope he struggles to get opponents from now on

 

Of course he will struggle to get opponents. When you outclass your "main" undefeated threat, knocking him down numerous times and grabbing one of the best scorecards in the history of boxing, then people wont want anything to do with him.

Too good for his own good.

He will never struggle he's the money I the HW division! He deserves to be ranked as the unified champion 1st one in 10 years or so as he's so dominant! Would prefer someone winning it first and then wlad fighting for it though! Although I recon if fury wins it he will dodge dive dip duck and dodge wlad until he gets a ridiculous purse split

Unlikely as WBC don't do "unified".

Fury can take this guy

Didn't WBC would allow sharing??

He's the heavyweight champ, no one else should be recognised as such, so I hope he does go after the belt.

Anyone who gets the WBC belt would dodge Wlad and would prob dodge any other top fighter out there and just fight bums.

Would they let him fight for it and strip him before he defends it? Therefore uniting them for the night? If so im guessing he will be in for it so he ticks off one more claim

Nobody has ever held all 4 major belts at heavy before. Lewis had the WBC, WBA & IBF but never had the WBO. There was talk of Lewis going after Wlad's title (as depicted in Ocean's 11 ironically) but then he ran into the roadblock that was Rahman. 6 months down the line he got his titles back but let's not forget he'd been stripped of the WBA title before he could defend it thanks to Ruiz' management taking the case to court as they didn't want him to fight Michael Grant first.

So even if Lewis had fought and beaten Wlad back in 2001/2, he would still never have held all 4 belts at the same time. Unless he fought "Johnny Louise" of course, which was about as exciting a draw as Herbie Hide vs Willi Fischer.

I think Wlad will want to be the first person to hold all 4 belts simultaneously, regardless of whether he defends it or not. I just think it'll be amusing if whoever he fights pulls off the almost unthinkable and beats him to take ALL the belts.

History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

WBC won't strip Wlad if he becomes undisputed heavyweight champion.

They'll get a bigger sanctioning fee.

They didn't strip Canelo Alvarez(WBC/WBA)
They haven't stripped Mayweather(WBC/WBA)
They have stripped Danny Garcia(WBC/WBA)

All these guys earn more money for the WBC.

Ward was stripped as he doesn't make as much money.

TopHat24/7 wrote:History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

The last would be Wlad as he is the only world champion right now as the wbc is vacant and he is clearly the best and has been for some time. Only a matter of time before wlad wins the wbc belt as well.

Gerry SA wrote:WBC won't strip Wlad if he becomes undisputed heavyweight champion.

They'll get a bigger sanctioning fee.

They didn't strip Canelo Alvarez(WBC/WBA)
They haven't stripped Mayweather(WBC/WBA)
They have stripped Danny Garcia(WBC/WBA)

All these guys earn more money for the WBC.

Ward was stripped as he doesn't make as much money.

Wlad v Haye and Wlad v povetkin were two massive fights that made a load of cash, the WBC will want in on some of this cash.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

The last would be Wlad as he is the only world champion right now as the wbc is vacant and he is clearly the best and has been for some time. Only a matter of time before wlad wins the wbc belt as well.

Except it won't unless the WBC give him a shot.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

The last would be Wlad as he is the only world champion right now as the wbc is vacant and he is clearly the best and has been for some time. Only a matter of time before wlad wins the wbc belt as well.

Except it won't unless the WBC give him a shot.

As I said he is seen as the best HW for the last 5 years and is the only HW champion right now as the WBC is vacant. Only a matter of time before he gets the WBC, very much doubt they would prefer pulev to have it instead of wlad.

For the good of the sport , if not for the generation of excitment in the division, it's better if Wlad gets the title. Give me one recognised boring champion over four more exciting paper title holders any day.

At least when Vitali was still around, there was a genuine split on which brother would win a hypothetical bout. Is there any doubt at all that Wlad is the greatest around at the mo'?

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

The last would be Wlad as he is the only world champion right now as the wbc is vacant and he is clearly the best and has been for some time. Only a matter of time before wlad wins the wbc belt as well.

Except it won't unless the WBC give him a shot.

As I said he is seen as the best HW for the last 5 years and is the only HW champion right now as the WBC is vacant. Only a matter of time before he gets the WBC, very much doubt they would prefer pulev to have it instead of wlad.

No doubt if he gets the shot he'll take it. He's head and shoulders above everyone else. But unless he does he won't be considered the same as Lewis was.

kingraf wrote:At least when Vitali was still around, there was a genuine split on which brother would win a hypothetical bout. Is there any doubt at all that  Wlad is the greatest around at the mo'?

No doubt whatsoever. Wlad and Wlad only. Pity his career has been so bereft of opportunities to prove his greatness.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

The last would be Wlad as he is the only world champion right now as the wbc is vacant and he is clearly the best and has been for some time. Only a matter of time before wlad wins the wbc belt as well.

Except it won't unless the WBC give him a shot.

As I said he is seen as the best HW for the last 5 years and is the only HW champion right now as the WBC is vacant. Only a matter of time before he gets the WBC, very much doubt they would prefer pulev to have it instead of wlad.

No doubt if he gets the shot he'll take it.  He's head and shoulders above everyone else.  But unless he does he won't be considered the same as Lewis was.

did lewis win all 5? wbo,wba,ibf,wbc and ring magazine?

Lewis held the four belts that mattered in the late 90's, none of the top men bothered with the WBO except for Bowe. Nobody took his claim as a world champion all that seriously plus Lewis did beat his biggest rival.

WBC have ordered arreola v stiverne for the belt. So stiverne gets to fight the last person he fought. WBC favouring Mexicans? Whatever next.

jimdig wrote:WBC have ordered arreola v stiverne for the belt. So stiverne gets to fight the last person he fought. WBC favouring Mexicans? Whatever next.

How are the WBC favouring Arreola?

He's the number 2 ranked challenger.

It's a rematch of the very last fight stiverne won very convincingly. The only person arreola beat since was the painfully overmatched already outted Mitchell.
My contention is that arreola doesn't deserve his ranking. (Slander alert: And also that he WBC has a history of favouring Mexicans and fighters of Mexican heritage).

Glad to see Stiverne getting the shot, did worry if Haye Fury had come off the WBC would have made that a title fight and left Stiverne on the outside, which he does not deserve.

jimdig wrote:It's a rematch of the very last fight stiverne won very convincingly. The only person arreola beat since was the painfully overmatched already outted Mitchell.
My contention is that arreola doesn't deserve his ranking. (Slander alert: And also that he WBC has a history of favouring Mexicans and fighters of Mexican heritage).

Arreola was Vitali's mandatory for around 12 months, WBC or Vitali never entertained the thoughts of making the fight.

Arreola has actually got into the shape since the woeful effort he put in against Stiverne. Arreola was massively out of shape for the 1st fight.

The rematch will be a much closer fight.

He's had one fight against a lowly ranked fighter since he lost his title eliminator against stiverne, and that's enough to get a shot.
I like arreola as a boxer, he has heart and keeps throwing, his dedication is hit and miss, but he entertains, I don't think he deserves his no 2 ranking on the strength of the Mitchell blowout, but not much point arguing about how the WBC or any boxing organisation do their business.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:History will always recognise the reality, not the technicality, that Lewis was the last undisputed unified HW champion of the world.

The last would be Wlad as he is the only world champion right now as the wbc is vacant and he is clearly the best and has been for some time. Only a matter of time before wlad wins the wbc belt as well.

Except it won't unless the WBC give him a shot.

As I said he is seen as the best HW for the last 5 years and is the only HW champion right now as the WBC is vacant. Only a matter of time before he gets the WBC, very much doubt they would prefer pulev to have it instead of wlad.

No doubt if he gets the shot he'll take it.  He's head and shoulders above everyone else.  But unless he does he won't be considered the same as Lewis was.

did lewis win all 5? wbo,wba,ibf,wbc and ring magazine?

He was the undisputed unified champion of the world, with no equal. Unlike Wlad who's always had the lion's share, but not all, the belts but most have backed big bro to take him most of his career so he's never been undisputed.

Neither Wlad or Lewis held the WBF belt either, doesn't make a difference.

WBC confirms Arreola vs Stiverne.