Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[Crimey]

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[Good Golly I'm Olly]

What a game

[hampo17]

Get in! Superb from Sturridge to keep going there!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Of all the things to praise him for, continuing to play isn't the one

[Crimey]

Good to see SAS combining well for two goals already.

[owen10ozzy]

Fair enough regards Terry; but do you also believe he shouldn't be anywhere near a football or be getting paid?

[Crimey]

Stoke's attitude in this game has been fantastic.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Ronaldos stamp on Rooney?

I believe Chelsea should have sacked him to be honest Owen just like Liverpool should have done with Suarez. In any other job you would be dismissed on the spot for racial abuse.

[Crimey]

Being a footballer is an anomaly though, it's not treated like any other job so I'm not sure why you expect it to be in any case.

I think you just need to get a sense of perspective about it.

[Hammersmith harrier]

That's just BS i'm sorry Crimey, there is no perspective here, there is no place for racists in football and I would be ashamed of the manager and owners of my club standing by one of our players for doing it.

[westisbest]

Well, that was a boring game.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Stoke haven't had the luck at the times Liverpool had, hell of a game and Stoke probably deserved a point. Happy they didn't get it though!

[owen10ozzy]

My bad, mind all over the place.

To be fair, I do agree regards him being sacked. In any other job he would have been...but in football you become exempt from such things. Sad really but that's the way it is. Plenty of people within football have done things which would be sackable offences in every day walks of life but money ultimately rules...and Suarez brings in a shed load for Liverpool in both performances and merchandise.

I still wouldn't wish anything horrific on him, that's just me I guess, and given his attitude has seemed to have changed for the time being at least it's not going to stop me from admiring his performances....because lets be honest as it stands he is probably the best player in the world at the moment.

Out of interest who do you support Hammersmith!?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

There probably isn't a place for kicking fans in the face either. I have long seen Terry's as worse than Suarez's. Suarez has a very slight culture defence. Should have been a 10 game ban.

[Crimey]

That's just BS i'm sorry Crimey, there is no perspective here, there is no place for racists in football and I would be ashamed of the manager and owners of my club standing by one of our players for doing it.

The club didn't stick by Suarez for any racial abuse, they stood by him when he professed his innocence, they did not support him after the panel gave their verdict. Had the club not stood by him while he claimed his innocence, which I'm sure he does to this day, and he was found innocent, the club then looks stupid for not doing so.

I agree that there is no place for racists in football but I do question whether Luis Suarez and indeed John Terry are actually racists, the FA decisions look very odd, particularly when you take into account Terry's court case.

That's not the point anyway, wishing for a footballer's career to be potentially ended is not acceptable whoever the footballer.

[Crimey]

I also think your opinion would be different if it was United's star player.

[Hammersmith harrier]

My opinion would be no different if it was Uniteds star player because I like to think my club is more morally correct than Liverpool so wouldn't put up with it.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Seeing that pen again, handball and then not a penalty. Not a dive, not a penalty either. Doesn't always have to be a dive. He's gone down soft, but he probably has a right to go down, just doesnt make it a dive either. Can see why its given though.

There's nothing in this handball debate for me. That isnt down to the rules, its down to a split second decision. He probably sees it as closer to his body than it is on a slowed down replay from a better angle.

[Hulking_up]

I like to think my club is more morally correct than Liverpool

But it probably isn't.
Getting rid of your star player is bad for buisness.

[owen10ozzy]

My opinion would be no different if it was Uniteds star player because I like to think my club is more morally correct than Liverpool so wouldn't put up with it.

Despite having a player who missed a drugs test, a player who cheated on his wife with his brothers wife, Rooney who basically held the club to ransom for a new contract not to mention his affection for working girls....Bosnich who had a cocaine addiction yet continued to play for Utd....Cantona who booted a man in his face (GBH) yet returned to the club...a captain who admitted to ending a players career on purpose...

Most definitely a whiter than white club with an affliction for all things honest and morale!   

[J.Benson II]

There are no moral and immoral clubs. All clubs are a business and all will have the same mentality.
Suarez is Liverpool's top player so would always have been defended by the club. Same with Terry for Chelsea.
United would have done the same with Rooney, Tottenham with Bale etc.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Cantona was racially abused and retaliated to that, Keane is a cretin, as for the others you mentioned; Bosnich had left the club before his cocaine addiction had started while Ferdinand took the test later that day, one of the most absurd bans I can think of.

[mystiroakey]

what a game.

     

[Liam]

Cracking game although good have done with a draw or a defeat for Liverpool from a utd point of view.

[kingraf]

Can take as little as fifteen minutes for certain substances to leave the system - Nothing ridiculous about Ferdinand's ban.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Not your blood it doesn't Raf.

[socal1976]

Complete undeserved 3 points by Man City in Newcastle. An unbelievable goal disallowed by the keystone cop officials of the premier league. The score was 2-0 but Newcastle were the superior side forced to chase the match and play a high line which resulted in 95 min, goal for City. The score should have been 1-1 and Newcastle wouldn't have been caught out like that. Frankly the disallowed goal was mind boggling this was not a bang bang play. The ref took his time and a minute after the goal put his putrid mind together with the linesman and blew a completely easy call. Hart had no chance at the shot and didn't even move. The defender did not impede him in anyway as evidenced by him standing completely still and not even trying for the shot. Frankly I have seen ten year olds playing with better officials than the premier league. Not only was Newcastle cheated but so were all of City's competitors for the title it should have been 1-1 with newcastle defending the point late in the match the second goal was also a result of incompetence in the first half. Disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful the level of officiating in the premier league.

Newcastle was the superior team and were cheated out of a point and City got two undeserved points and should not be top of the league.

[J.Benson II]

Substances like GH and IGF1 have very short detection times. You are looking at just hours.

[socal1976]

I hope no English referees go to the world cup, they will embarass themselves they are just flat terrible. But since you guys love to defend incompetence and enjoy substandard officiating I am sure nothing will be done about it.

[socal1976]

Skrtel embarassing himself again with the most obvious fouling on every single set piece. What the Smeg is wrong with these officials and what is going to be done about it. Skrtel throws both arms around the attacker and doesn't even play the ball. They should let the attacker elbow him in the face and break his cheating mug if he can use both hands on the attacker.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Our referees are no worse than those on the continent, Busacca sending off Van Persie against Barcelona stands out for me as the single worst decision i've ever seen.

[Ent]

Players get away with things most normal working people wouldn't.

However there is a line and Suarez and terry both crossed it and in my opinion should have been fired from their clubs and had a lifetime ban imposed by the fa.

Sadly all involved let themselves down and showed their true colours, Liverpool and their fans behaviour in general was embarassing at best.

[socal1976]

I disagree I watch continental matches and I don't see this many matches impacted by terrible officiating. EPL officials are seemingly torn between a desire to protect players and to allow physical committed football simultaneously, these two conflicting desires has destroyed all consistency. At least the la liga officials are consistently quick with the whistle.

[Ent]

What benefits and performance enhancements would be beneficial in they cleared in 15 minutes?

That's a half life of 3 minutes.

There is some complete and utter nonsense and utter stupidity displayed at times.

Ferdinand was stitched up, plenty of players have missed drugs tests since and none of them had been banned.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Refs in La Liga are awful, i've watched numerous games involving both Barca and Madrid where they are rewarded free kicks for the smallest little touch or even blatant dives. As for in Italy with their history it's very hard to justify them being any good when corruption has been so rife.

[socal1976]

Refs in La Liga are awful, i've watched numerous games involving both Barca and Madrid where they are rewarded free kicks for the smallest little touch or even blatant dives. As for in Italy with their history it's very hard to justify them being any good when corruption has been so rife.

I would take both la liga and Bundesliga officials over EPL officials anyday. In La liga they are consistently quick with the whistle, in the Bundesliga they let you play; in the EPL you have no idea what boneheaded decision will happen and how the match will be called. The Serie A the refs are corrupt that is a different matter altogether.

[socal1976]

I mean Skrtel cheats blatantly and obviously on every set piece and he has yet to be called for a single penalty so he continues to cheat.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Sorry but being consistently quick doesn't hide the fact they are god damn awful, football is a contact sport something the spanish refs have difficulty understanding. The refs in this country may make bad decisions now and then but it isn't by the dozen every match like the spaniards.

[socal1976]

I watch two or three la liga matches per week, and about the same in EPL; yet I can't think of anything approaching the number of matches impacted by bad officiating as in the EPL. There is no consistency in the EPL at least in Italy we know there is oversight, we know someone is watching the store, I am not so sure of EPL officials.

[Duty281]

Oh dear, Suarez scores twice against a poor Stoke side and he's being lauded again. Someone give me a nudge when he scores against some top clubs - something he rarely does.

[Duty281]

I hope no English referees go to the world cup, they will embarass themselves they are just flat terrible. But since you guys love to defend incompetence and enjoy substandard officiating I am sure nothing will be done about it.

I can tell you're a yank pretty easily. I can almost hear an accent coming off the screen.

[mystiroakey]

socal you are again talking total nonsense

[lfc91]

Oh dear, Suarez scores twice against a poor Stoke side and he's being lauded again. Someone give me a nudge when he scores against some top clubs - something he rarely does.

Just out of curiosity duty, do you not consider suarez goal tally for the season to have been impressive/a great achievement, even though (as you rightly pointed out) they came mostly against the 'lesser' teams?

[Duty281]

Oh dear, Suarez scores twice against a poor Stoke side and he's being lauded again. Someone give me a nudge when he scores against some top clubs - something he rarely does.

Just out of curiosity duty, do you not consider suarez goal tally for the season to have been impressive/a great achievement, even though (as you rightly pointed out) they came mostly against the 'lesser' teams?

Well yes it is impressive, but he's Liverpool's top striker. You want your top striker to be scoring against the like of Chelsea/Citeh/Arsenal etc., particularly when you have top 4 aspirations.

[mystiroakey]

I cant remember another player in the PL being so prolific.

22 goals in 16 games.

BUt from Englands POV great to see sturridge hasn't lost a thing.. Still hungry and sharp. His goal was highly skilled.

[Hammersmith harrier]

How many goals have Torres, Eto'o, Van Persie, Rooney and Giroud scored against rival teams Duty?

[lfc91]

Suppose your right there, but as ive said on here before we will always carve out a lot more chances against the hulls/cardiffs of the world compared to city etc. And it has been our form against these 'lesser' teams that has put us in the top 4 at this stage so i cant really complain in that sense. Think we will see more goals from suarez against the big teams this half of the season because they all come to anfield!(bar utd).

[westisbest]

Villa to complete the double over Arsenal tomorrow night.

Benteke to finally score since his injury.

Fck it, time to start thinking positive.   .

Damn this weed is good.

[Duty281]

How many goals have Torres, Eto'o, Van Persie, Rooney and Giroud scored against rival teams Duty?

I'm no statistician. Phone a friend, methinks.

[socal1976]

socal you are again talking total nonsense

Did you watch the liverpool match and the City match, do you think the officials did a good job in either of those matches. Two terribly officiated matches.

[socal1976]

I hope no English referees go to the world cup, they will embarass themselves they are just flat terrible. But since you guys love to defend incompetence and enjoy substandard officiating I am sure nothing will be done about it.

I can tell you're a yank pretty easily. I can almost hear an accent coming off the screen.

What gave me away Sherlock the fact that I pointed out the USA's unbeaten record against the vaunted 3 lions in World cups.

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