Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

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Mancini was terrible, how I wish he was still there.

Should have walked the league the last 2 years with the squad he had and gotten out of his cl groups.

[Gregers]

And that is how it's done

Matic was unbelievable

[LastDamnation]

Think that's a really bad result for us :s

At least we're 2 points clear

[Mad for Chelsea]

ahem

Chelsea played rather well

Oh screw it, we were magnificent to a man, and it was only the woodwork that saved Man City from a hammering

Agree with LJ, Oscar is denied a clear goalscoring opportunity, there was no other Man City player within five yards of him, and he's clean through on goal. Regardless of where he is, a red card is the correct decision. Still, not too fussed.

Mourinho is a tactical genius

[Marky]

By the way, Demichelis in midfield for City tonight will be the key tonight. If he's really better than Garcia or Rodwell at replacing an injured Fernandinho then it's City's game to lose. But if he plays like he has been since joining City...

See above. Demichelis was awful, on the other hand Matic was class dealing with Yaya.

[Marky]

I don't see how someone on the halfway line has a clear goalscoring opportunity...

[Mad for Chelsea]

good call Marky

Matic looks the real deal, could be a superb signing for Chelsea that one.

[Mad for Chelsea]

I don't see how someone on the halfway line has a clear goalscoring opportunity...

he's clean through on goal, and the players closest to him (apart from the bloke who's falling over while grabbing a fistful of his shirt) are teammates. I fail to see how you can see that as anything but TBH.

[mystiroakey]

How good is Matic by the way?

The ideal box to box midfielder imo.. Strong, can pass, works back, works forward, can hit the ball..

No reason why man u couldnt have gone for him instead of taking on Mata and packing an area they are good in.

[LastDamnation]

Oscar was already off balance and kolarov was making ground up.

Oscar fouls him first anyway...

[Hulking_up]

United got trolled on twitter in their latest #AskCarrick day.

if you could drop one player from the team how would you tell Cleverley?

You've gone from playing with the likes of Ronaldo and Paul Scholes, to playing with Cleverley and Nani. How does that feel?

'How many times has Mata tried to make a run for it since signing?'

'Is Cleverley as annoying to play with as he is to watch?'

in what game was your most memorable pass back to your keeper?

     

I noticed this on The Sun dream team website.

@dreamteamfc
#askcarrick did you know that you have less Dream Team points than Jon Flanagan this season?

[socal1976]

Well credit to Chelsea, despite the 1-0 scoreline Chelsea came to win the match and probably should have scored another if two more. City had their chances as well but it is clear despite their depth that they miss Fernandino and particularly miss Aguero. Aguero in particular really gives them that ruthlessness in front of goal which they were missing.

Got to love it Arsenal 2 points clear thanks to Chelsea. Chelsea has played the toughest fixture list so far and are only two points back so they well positioned as well. Man city certainly with the players they have are still favorites. Good to see 3 teams so close for the title with nearly 2/3s of the season done.

[socal1976]

Dean missed another redcard, that foul was an obvious redcard. The last man dragged Oscar down and Oscar would have been in for a breakaway on the goalie. Really bad call, he had a pretty good game till then.

[mystiroakey]

A bit of love for Mourinhio tonight Socal?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Never a red card for me, good call for the yellow, but not that it made much difference in the end.

Have to say I'm well chuffed we play Man City on Saturday when they're coming off a loss...

[socal1976]

A bit of love for Mourinhio tonight Socal?

I have never said he is anything but a good manager, I just don't like his style or his arrogance. Chelsea was my early season pick to win the league and I really love Hazard's game. If I could have one other player on Arsenal from any other premier league side Hazard is in the top 3 after Suarez and Aguero. But it is nice to see that City won't be running away with anything and that Arsenal are still top.

[Duty281]

I thought it was a red card as well. Clear through on goal with only the keeper to beat. So what if he was fifty yards away? He was clear of the defence. Ref bottled it.

Had to love Chelsea's organisation and workrate tonight. First time City haven't scored at home in the PL for a longgggggg time. How I wish Terry-Cahill would be starting together this summer against Italy.

[socal1976]

Never a red card for me, good call for the yellow, but not that it made much difference in the end.

Have to say I'm well chuffed we play Man City on Saturday when they're coming off a loss...

I disagree that whole last man rule was passed specifically for that situation we saw tonight. The City defender was the last defender by some distance and Oscar would have a breakaway with the goalie plus the next closest player to the play was I think Ramires. Even if the other City defender sprinted back at Bolt like speed it would have been at worst a two on 1. At worst. Cynical fouls trying to kill a clear chance like that is why they passed the rule so why have it in the first place then?

[NickisBHAFC]

That is why Mourihno is the special one.

Fantastic performance from Chelsea. Gary Cahill and John Terry at the back, WOY GET TERRY OUT OF RETIREMENT! Matic in the middle was brilliant as was Ramieres.

That was the best performance by any side in the league this season. 

City have the best team, but with Mourihno anything can happen. Were in for one hell of a finish to the season.

[Duty281]

That is why Mourihno is the special one.

Fantastic performance from Chelsea. Gary Cahill and John Terry at the back, WOY GET TERRY OUT OF RETIREMENT! Matic in the middle was brilliant as was Ramieres.

That was the best performance by any side in the league this season. 

City have the best team, but with Mourihno anything can happen. Were in for one hell of a finish to the season.

Give him the captain's armband as well; that man is a born leader, unlike Steven Gerrard.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Never a red card for me, good call for the yellow, but not that it made much difference in the end.

Have to say I'm well chuffed we play Man City on Saturday when they're coming off a loss...

I disagree that whole last man rule was passed specifically for that situation we saw tonight. The City defender was the last defender by some distance and Oscar would have a breakaway with the goalie plus the next closest player to the play was I think Ramires. Even if the other City defender sprinted back at Bolt like speed it would have been at worst a two on 1. At worst. Cynical fouls trying to kill a clear chance like that is why they passed the rule so why have it in the first place then?

Didn't chelsea man sausage up a 4 on 1 earlier in the game?

Anyways it's never been last man, it's a clear goalscoring opportunity as far as I'm aware (and was when I took me refs test, thats right i do school games!).

Anyways not like it really matters, next up for Citeh is us, and their defenders won't be needed for that anyways

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

That is why Mourihno is the special one.

Fantastic performance from Chelsea. Gary Cahill and John Terry at the back, WOY GET TERRY OUT OF RETIREMENT! Matic in the middle was brilliant as was Ramieres.

That was the best performance by any side in the league this season. 

City have the best team, but with Mourihno anything can happen. Were in for one hell of a finish to the season.

Give him the captain's armband as well; that man is a born leader, unlike Steven Gerrard.

Rubbish on Gerrard Duty, one of the best leaders on a football field I've seen. Both are great captains

[NickisBHAFC]

Yeah i don't agree with that about Gerrard Duty. But Terry should be leading us to Brazil in the summer IMO.

[socal1976]

It was a clear goal scoring opportunity Olly. Oscar had the ball clear on the keeper, sure he was some distance away but there wasn't a defender close to him and that is anyway you cut a clear goal scoring chance. Whichever definition of the rule you want to apply the defender should be off.

[NickisBHAFC]

Also not that it matters, i thought it was a red card. Running through on goal, last man, that's a professional foul. Red card for me.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

It was a clear goal scoring opportunity Olly. Oscar had the ball clear on the keeper, sure he was some distance away but there wasn't a defender close to him and that is anyway you cut a clear goal scoring chance. Whichever definition of the rule you want to apply the defender should be off.

Think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one socal   

[Mad for Chelsea]

Pellegrini "I don't think we deserved to lose the game" and "today they had the luck to win". That would be the "luck" in hitting the woodwork three times right? (incidentally three is also the number of shots Man City managed on target all game)

On Terry, we all know the reasons he isn't playing for England (and maybe indeed captain) have very little to do with football. He may not be the nicest person you could meet (warning: heavy understatement), but he is a born-leader on the football pitch, and you have only to look at the long list of high quality managers who made him their first-choice captain to see that. Massive ####-up from the FA there IMO.

[Duty281]

That is why Mourihno is the special one.

Fantastic performance from Chelsea. Gary Cahill and John Terry at the back, WOY GET TERRY OUT OF RETIREMENT! Matic in the middle was brilliant as was Ramieres.

That was the best performance by any side in the league this season. 

City have the best team, but with Mourihno anything can happen. Were in for one hell of a finish to the season.

Give him the captain's armband as well; that man is a born leader, unlike Steven Gerrard.

Rubbish on Gerrard Duty, one of the best leaders on a football field I've seen. Both are great captains

Oh he's never struck me as a leader. A fantastic performer who can pick a team up by the scruff of the neck..yes.

But is he an anthem-belting, heart-on-the-sleeve, over-my-dead-body Englishman who organises, screams, shouts, whilst willingly donating blood, toil, tears, and sweat to the cause? Someone who goes to the trenches and is a perfect example of the Anglo-Saxon race? Someone in the mould of Bryan Robson, Tony Adams, Stuart Pearce or John Terry? Never.

[NickisBHAFC]

Pellegrini what a saw loser. His comments didn't even make any sense. Idiot.

[socal1976]

It was a clear goal scoring opportunity Olly. Oscar had the ball clear on the keeper, sure he was some distance away but there wasn't a defender close to him and that is anyway you cut a clear goal scoring chance. Whichever definition of the rule you want to apply the defender should be off.

Think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one socal   

Fair enough Olly I rarely see eye to eye with you refs anyway.

[Champagne_Socialist]

It was a clear goal scoring opportunity Olly. Oscar had the ball clear on the keeper, sure he was some distance away but there wasn't a defender close to him and that is anyway you cut a clear goal scoring chance. Whichever definition of the rule you want to apply the defender should be off.

So are you saying that the last man who fouls should always be sent off no matter where on the pitch it is? Oscar was fouled on the half way line which you have stated is a red card as the player who fouled him was the last man. What about if it was by the opponents 18 yard box eg there is a corner for man city and it is cleared by a chelsea player and another chelsea player picks the ball up just outside his penalty box and there is only 1 player in front of him who is the last man who fouls him by the 18 yard box. Is that a red card as it is last man as well?

[socal1976]

Can't agree with Pelligrini, it was clear Chelsea played blindingly good and deserved the three points. That being said I think City really did miss Sergio.

[socal1976]

It was a clear goal scoring opportunity Olly. Oscar had the ball clear on the keeper, sure he was some distance away but there wasn't a defender close to him and that is anyway you cut a clear goal scoring chance. Whichever definition of the rule you want to apply the defender should be off.

So are you saying that the last man who fouls should always be sent off no matter where on the pitch it is? Oscar was fouled on the half way line which you have stated is a red card as the player who fouled him was the last man. What about if it was by the opponents 18 yard box eg there is a corner for man city and it is cleared by a chelsea player and another chelsea player picks the ball up just outside his penalty box and there is only 1 player in front of him who is the last man who fouls him by the 18 yard box. Is that a red card as it is last man as well?

No that is not what I said, it was a clear chance for Oscar as he was some distance away from the last city defender and in alone with the keeper. The next closest player to the play was Ramires. Last man in conjunction with a clear scoring chance which I think it clearly was, then you should send him off.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Terry puts on an England shirt and I will firmly be supporting Italy and Uruguay.

[NickisBHAFC]

Terry puts on an England shirt and I will firmly be supporting Italy and Uruguay.

Why?

[Hammersmith harrier]

Wouldn't want him representing my country Nick, simple as that and would turn my back on the national team if he ever did again.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Kinnear resigns

[NickisBHAFC]

Kinnear resigns

     

[Duty281]

John Terry. Captain. Leader. Legend.

I don't care who he has shagged (we've all made mistakes and have regrets in that area!), or what silly things he has said or done after a tipple (ditto).

He's not racist, he's not a bad person - he is a bloody good defender and an absolute leader on a football pitch.

John Terry, he's the King.

[LastDamnation]

We're not going to win the world cup this time round, what's the point of bringing back a 33 year old defender? What kind of message are you sending by letting him back in?

[NickisBHAFC]

Terry isn't a racist, that was Anton Ferdinand being a cry baby and trying to make a name for himself.

Bit of a cu*t for doing what he did to Wayne Bridge, but Bridge is cooler anyway and now as a hotter bird anyway!

[Hammersmith harrier]

John Terry. Captain. Leader. Legend.

I don't care who he has shagged (we've all made mistakes and have regrets in that area!), or what silly things he has said or done after a tipple (ditto).

He's not racist, he's not a bad person - he is a bloody good defender and an absolute leader on a football pitch.

John Terry, he's the King.

Sorry i've got higher standards for my country than that, he's a disgrace that should have been banned for life.

[Mad for Chelsea]

that you're actually picking your best team, rather than leave out the guy who's currently playing better than any other English centre-half, and plays every week alongside the second-best, who will start the WC, maybe?

the whole "pick the youngsters" is all well and good, so long as you have a choice between two players of roughly the same quality it has merit. But right now Smalling, Jones, Jagielka, Lescott and whoever else is in the frame to (in all likelihood) partner Cahill are nowhere near Terry's level.

And let's not bring up the Bridge affair again, please? While cheating on your wife is reprehensible, I'm not sure what right Bridge has to feel aggrieved that his EX-GF slept with somebody else...

[Duty281]

John Terry. Captain. Leader. Legend.

I don't care who he has shagged (we've all made mistakes and have regrets in that area!), or what silly things he has said or done after a tipple (ditto).

He's not racist, he's not a bad person - he is a bloody good defender and an absolute leader on a football pitch.

John Terry, he's the King.

Sorry i've got higher standards for my country than that, he's a disgrace that should have been banned for life.

For what exactly?

[Mad for Chelsea]

John Terry. Captain. Leader. Legend.

I don't care who he has shagged (we've all made mistakes and have regrets in that area!), or what silly things he has said or done after a tipple (ditto).

He's not racist, he's not a bad person - he is a bloody good defender and an absolute leader on a football pitch.

John Terry, he's the King.

Sorry i've got higher standards for my country than that, he's a disgrace that should have been banned for life.

pretty sure he could have gone to the CAS in that case, which, given the court ruling of not guilty - not the poitically back-saving verdict the FA dished out - would have had little choice but to overturn such a ban. The whole FA trial was a face-saving process after they'd dismissed him as their captain (and lost a coach) without even a chance to defend himself.

[Duty281]

that you're actually picking your best team, rather than leave out the guy who's currently playing better than any other English centre-half, and plays every week alongside the second-best, who will start the WC, maybe?

the whole "pick the youngsters" is all well and good, so long as you have a choice between two players of roughly the same quality it has merit. But right now Smalling, Jones, Jagielka, Lescott and whoever else is in the frame to (in all likelihood) partner Cahill are nowhere near Terry's level.

And let's not bring up the Bridge affair again, please? While cheating on your wife is reprehensible, I'm not sure what right Bridge has to feel aggrieved that his EX-GF slept with somebody else...

Exactly. When the biggest tournament of all comes around, you can't think of tomorrow, only the here and now.

And John Terry, who has played every single minute for Chelsea in the PL so far this season, a team who have the best defence in the league, is the greatest English CB around currently. Age is of no concern.

[Marky]

Terry isn't a racist, that was Anton Ferdinand being a cry baby and trying to make a name for himself.

Actually it was TV cameras picking up John Terry using racist language, but whatever.

[Mad for Chelsea]

and plays week-in week-out alongside the second-best English CB around currently, which probably wouldn't hurt either

Look, you can dislike Terry the person as much as you want, but if this were a decision based on purely footballing criteria it would be a complete non-brainer.

[Duty281]

Terry isn't a racist, that was Anton Ferdinand being a cry baby and trying to make a name for himself.

Actually it was TV cameras picking up John Terry using racist language, but whatever.

Oh dear. Political correctness strikes again!

#nosurrender

[Hammersmith harrier]

I couldn't give a crap personally, as far as i'm concerned he's a racist C U Next Tuesday.

[Duty281]

I couldn't give a crap personally, as far as i'm concerned he's a racist C U Next Tuesday.

Call someone a c**t on a football field - no problem.

Throw the word "black" in? Sheetstorm incoming!

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