The true champ is.....

Dont know much about history,

dont know much biology,

dont know much about the French I took,

but following on from Truss' article about 1 belt per division, I would like to know who you would pick for the recognised weights.

The simple rule for selection is that you have to currently hold a belt in the division you are choosing your boxer from.

(ie you cant pick Manny for every weight division D4 )

so lets hear who you think the champs are......

I'm going to ignore junior weights which I think are a waste of time

Heavyweight: Vitali Klitschko
Light Heavyweight: Carl Froch
Middleweight: Sergio Martinez
Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez
Featherweight: Yuriokis Gamboa
Bantamweight: Anselmo Moreno
Flyweight: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

Which only goes to show the overall sparsity of talent around at the current time

Heavyweight: Wladamir Klitchsko
Cruiserweight: Steve Cunningham
Light Heavyweight: Jean Pascal at the moment but could be Hopkins at the end of the weekend
Super Middleweight: Andre Ward
Middleweight: Sergio Martinez
Light Middleweight: Miguel Cotto
Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao ( would be Mayweather if it wasn't for his inactivity)
Light Welterweight: Amir Khan
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez
Super Featherweight: Ricky Burns
Featherweight: Yuriorkis Gambao
Super-Bantamweight- Tochiaki Nishioka
Bantamweight- Nonito Donaire
Super Flyweight- Cristian Mijares
Flyweight- Pongsalak Wongonkam
Junior Flyweight- Giovanni Segura
Straweight- Nkosinathi Joyi

Heavyweight: W. Klitschko
Cruiserweight: Cunningham
Light Heavyweight: Pascal
Super Middleweight: Froch
Middleweight: Pirog
Light-Middle: Cotto
Welterweight: Pacquaio
Light Welterweight: Khan
Lightweight: Marquez
Super Featherweight: Fana
Featherweight: Gamboa
Super-Bantamweight- Nishioka
Bantamweight: Donaire
Super Flyweight: Mijares
Flyweight: Wonjongkam
Light Flyweight: Segura
Straweight: Joyi
P4P: Pacquiao

Heavyweight: Wladimir Klitschko

Cruiserweight: Steve Cunningham

Light Heavyweight: Jean Pascal

Super Middleweight: Carl Froch

Middleweight: Sergio Martinez

Light Middleweight: Miguel Cotto

Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao

Light Welterweight: Timothy Bradley

Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez

Super Featherweight: Ricky Burns

Featherweight: Yuriorkis Gamboa

Super Bantamweight: Toshiaki Nishioka

Bantamweight: Nonito Donaire

Super Flyweight: Cristian Mijares 

Flyweight: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

Light Flyweight: Giovanni Segura

Didn't Martinez get stripped of his titles for no reason or was it just one of them?

bellchees wrote:Didn't Martinez get stripped of his titles for no reason or was it just one of them?

I thought one was stripped because he had the same belt at MW, and the other one...I dunno. Pick a reason. Make one up.

Like Atom I'm ignoring the junior weights their are to many weights in boxing and the weight between some lower weights is nothing more than a decent sized poop.

Heavyweight Vitali Klitschko
Light Heavyweight Tavoris Cloud
Middleweight Sergio Martinez
Welterweight Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight Juan Manuel Marquez
Featherweight Yuriokis Gamboa
Bantamweight Nonito Donaire
Flyweight Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

D4 - Pirog ahead of Martinez? Seems a bit strange to me. Pirog's a good boxer but has hardly achieved anything like the same level of victory.

My list:

Heavyweight: Wladimir Klitschko
Cruiserweight: Steve Cunningham
Light Heavyweight: Jean Pascal
Super Middleweight: Andre Ward
Middleweight: Sergio Martinez
Light Middleweight: Miguel Cotto
Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao
Light Welterweight: Timothy Bradley
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez
Super Featherweight: Ricky Burns
Featherweight: Yuriorkis Gamboa
Super Bantamweight: Toshiaki Nishioka
Bantamweight: Nonito Donaire
Super Flyweight: Cristian Mijares
Flyweight: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Light Flyweight: Giovanni Segura

My list is pretty similar to D4s except I'd switch in Martinez ahead of Pirog.

licence_007 wrote:My list is pretty similar to D4s except I'd switch in Martinez ahead of Pirog.

Martinez is not a title holder though and that was one of the OPs rules.

Neither is Fana now, so might have to replace him with Burns.

D4thincarnation wrote:

licence_007 wrote:My list is pretty similar to D4s except I'd switch in Martinez ahead of Pirog.

Martinez is not a title holder though and that was one of the OPs rules.

Neither is Fana now, so might have to replace him with Burns.

I'd have had Burns ahead of Fana, didn't notice that on your list. Wasn't sure about Martinez's status with belts, but since you've cleared that up...no idea who I would really pick from that division. I'd imagine we are not counting The Ring belt for this lists purposes then?

Similar list to most. I'd have Ward as opposed to Froch as SMW and Bradley at LWW.

licence_007 wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

licence_007 wrote:My list is pretty similar to D4s except I'd switch in Martinez ahead of Pirog.

Martinez is not a title holder though and that was one of the OPs rules.

Neither is Fana now, so might have to replace him with Burns.

I'd have had Burns ahead of Fana, didn't notice that on your list. Wasn't sure about Martinez's status with belts, but since you've cleared that up...no idea who I would really pick from that division. I'd imagine we are not counting The Ring belt for this lists purposes then?

The OP said belt not title. maybe we could get some clarification on it.

Isn't Martinez Ring champ? Plus, I thought he'd been 'upgraded' to family size megabucket humongo-champ?

I'm pretty sure it's superduper megabucket platinum deal champ.

His last fight was apparently for the 'vacant diamond WBC MW title', despite the fight previously Martinez was defending the regular WBC MW title. Which he won from Pavlik the fight before THAT. Farce.

The ring magazine belt is recognized by the IBHOF as a fully legitimate world title just to clarify

Imperial Ghosty wrote:The ring magazine belt is recognized by the IBHOF as a fully legitimate world title just to clarify

It is a title not a belt.

Ghosty - post removed. Watch your mouth

D4thincarnation wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:The ring magazine belt is recognized by the IBHOF as a fully legitimate world title just to clarify

It is a title not a belt.

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/1868/Wladimir-Klitschko-Ruslan-Chagaev49.jpg

http://www.classicfights.net/RING_MAGAZINE_BELT.jpg

http://thebluecorner.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ring2.jpg

http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/images/rjjr.jpg

http://philboxing.com/news/pix/pac.with.collins.ring.belt.300w.jpg


http://cdn.wn.com/pd/f7/89/06c070d9403a03f5ecb71f6a29bf_grande.jpg

It's not a belt?

There is no way you can have Pirog over Martinez; that is utter guff.

How can any so called boxing fan not know that there is a ring magazine belt?

Imperial Ghosty wrote:How can any so called boxing fan not know that there is a ring magazine belt?

It beggars belief until you read the name.