Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[mystiroakey]

First topic message reminder :

Oh you are SAF? or a Glazier?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

At this moment in time I'm way beyond the point of caring about anything other than sleep and the fact that Burger King's triple bacon cheeseburgers are surprisingly disappointing

[GSC]

Burger King in general is

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

In hindsight we should've gone to KFC instead

Bad day all round

[CFCNick]

Well, Olly. At least you don't pay to see the 91st placed club in the league.

[GSC]

At least you can field more than half your first XI

[westisbest]

Olly.

Did you hit up the Witton Arms?

[hampo17]

There isn't half an overreaction on Pardew's headbutt, is there?

Silly thing to do, but if the Hull player doesn't push him first, or square up to him, then it wouldn't have happened. Give him a ban for a couple of games, but no more.

The FA banned Paul Ince from the stadium for 6 games for swearing at an official, they've got to give Pardew a harsher punishment that that one otherwise they are saying pushing your head in to someones face (it wasn't a headbutt) is not as bad as swearing at someone.

Didn't Newcastle recently sack a staff member for hitting a reserve player as well? I've seen a few occassions were the staff have gotten involved with things they should just leave alone, I can remember the assistant manager squaring up to a player following a bad tackle at half time.

[Stella]

It was a headbutt, just not a very big one. May have been a bigger one if they were 3-1 down    

[Duty281]

Tony Pulis is going to fine two of his players for diving.

What a delightful fellow he is.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I think aggressively swearing at an official (i do believe there's different ways of swearing before you ask) is worse than nudging a player with your head. Its about their place in the "battle" that is a football match. In the same way that getting in a scrap at school happens, but you'd be gone if you hit a teacher

[hampo17]

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/liverpool-football-club-release-luis-suarez-to-arsenal-football-club

[Fernando]

Wow just wow    Time to let it go really that being said your owner didn't exactly help him self with his comments.

[NickisBHAFC]

Yeah good on Pulis for that. Christ if he had Zaha at Palace, god knows how many fines he would pick up!!!!

More managers need to follow Pulis punishment on diving.

[mystiroakey]

Yeah good on Pulis for that. Christ if he had Zaha at Palace, god knows how many fines he would pick up!!!!

More managers need to follow Pulis punishment on diving.

now now young lad.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Wow just wow    Time to let it go really that being said your owner didn't exactly help him self with his comments.  

True, but neither did Arsenal with there £40mill+£1 bid.

This has been to the PFA and LMA and both agreed the contract did not state that if £40mill + bid was made they had to accept. But if Arsenal were to challenge this, they would of have to disclose how they knew of the clause in the first place.

Some of the comments of why 'people' have signed the petition are funny.

Aki Purple LIVERPOOL, WIRRAL, ICELAND
Doesn't allow muscle touching him. No real biceps to touch though really.

Olivier Giroud LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
Because I am Poopie and need someone else to score the goals.

Francis Jeffers
Because Arsene Wenger has a history of signing strikers and turning them into world class players.

Every Arsenal Fan LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
Cause I'm a raving loon

Sam Navret WIRRAL, UNITED KINGDOM
I'm a stupid Kumquat who has nothing better to do.

[Guest]

Wow just wow    Time to let it go really that being said your owner didn't exactly help him self with his comments.  

True, but neither did Arsenal with there £40mill+£1 bid.

This has been to the PFA and LMA and both agreed the contract did not state that if £40mill + bid was made they had to accept. But if Arsenal were to challenge this, they would of have to disclose how they knew of the clause in the first place.

Some of the comments of why 'people' have signed the petition are funny.

Aki Purple LIVERPOOL, WIRRAL, ICELAND
Doesn't allow muscle touching him. No real biceps to touch though really.

Olivier Giroud LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
Because I am Poopie and need someone else to score the goals.

Francis Jeffers
Because Arsene Wenger has a history of signing strikers and turning them into world class players.

Every Arsenal Fan LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
Cause I'm a raving loon

Sam Navret WIRRAL, UNITED KINGDOM
I'm a stupid Kumquat who has nothing better to do.

 

[Dolphin Ziggler]

It does seem to me that the FA should look into it. Does it contravene anything they have set out or is it a personal matter for Suarez? Do they hold any issue over player contract disputes (even though this no longer is) or is it a legal matter?

And is this a bad message for a chairman to give to players? "Your contract is mine to ignore"

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can anybody, anywhere explain to me what Chris Hughton was thinking when he subbed Johan Elmander on right wing yesterday?

I can only explain it as pure unadulterated trolling

[Guest]

I think there were any number of issues re Suarez last season. He'd been vilified in the press for his actions (understandable) but he was under the microscope and the press, knowing he was a real marmite figure, had an absolute field day writing whatever nonsense they wanted about him. When you add the fact that Liverpool were pretty damn poor, it was easy to see why he wanted away and he had every justification for leaving TBH.

It must be said though that Rodgers and co must put Paul McKenna to shame when it comes to convincing people of something because I'd have been had pressed to believe that the team would make such massive improvements in the coming season to convince me to stay.

That being said, the club have been true to their word, invested and sought to improve the quality of the squad and the quality of their game and Suarez had shown himself to be a man of his word too. He's sought to put the past behind him and improve both as a person and a player and things look good.

Perhaps deep down Suarez knows that he may have been a little rash in his announcement that he wanted to go and when the dust had settled he realized that things weren't quite as bad as he's made them out to be.

Thing is, I can see some football pundits pressing him for a comment of Henry's announcement with a view to provoking a response. However, as I have no idea what has been said by all parties since Suarez committed himself to the club it's mere speculation that there will be a problem arising.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Can anybody, anywhere explain to me what Chris Hughton was thinking when he subbed Johan Elmander on right wing yesterday?

I can only explain it as pure unadulterated trolling

Probably "its not working, lets throw some physicality on".

Felt a bit to me like he put out the team he should have too. Gave Hoolahan a chance to prove he can play, Hooper is looking like the best striker to have someone like Wes in behind him. Dared to play wingers still even with a man less to be strong in the middle.

Took the lead then the side blew up.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can anybody, anywhere explain to me what Chris Hughton was thinking when he subbed Johan Elmander on right wing yesterday?

I can only explain it as pure unadulterated trolling

Probably "its not working, lets throw some physicality on".

Felt a bit to me like he put out the team he should have too. Gave Hoolahan a chance to prove he can play, Hooper is looking like the best striker to have someone like Wes in behind him. Dared to play wingers still even with a man less to be strong in the middle.

Took the lead then the side blew up.

Johan Elmander is about as physical as bloomin Jedward

I had no qualms with the original side. Was kind of forced on him with RVW and Fer injured. Although I'd have played Howson from the start.

My qualms are with the fact at 4-1 down he's basically said second half let's just take the loss (says pretty much that in his post match interview) I'm sorry but its not like Villa have the freakin iron curtain as a defence.

Should've gone Elmander for Johnson and stuck two up top. I'd have accepted taking Wes off even. The only thing he did was an enforced change of Snodgrass off (injured) for Pilkington.

For a manager who prides himself on defence, what u saw yesterday compared to Spurs was bewildering. In fact what I've seen in three successive away games compared to Spurs/Citeh at home is bewildering. In those two home games we've defended well as we've pressured them in possession, not allowing them time on the ball, forcing mistakes. Against Villa yesterday we scored then just sat off! Look at how Vlaar is allowed to put in that cross for the first goal, its an abomination!!! The same happened at Cardiff, we played well first half pressing high, then second half we sat off and they scored two quick goals and we lost.

I've just lost all hope long ago, I just pray Sunderland or WBA somehow contrive to get less points than us and take that third spot and we can start again in the summer with a new manager

[guildfordbat]

Tony Pulis is going to fine two of his players for diving.

What a delightful fellow he is.

Good of Pulis to say it so publicly as well. Helpfully marks the cards of his players and others. If any of his team go over in the box from now, all refs will know it must be a pen! What do you mean, cynical?   

[Fernando]

Charlie Adam charged by FA over stamp on Giroud.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Can anybody, anywhere explain to me what Chris Hughton was thinking when he subbed Johan Elmander on right wing yesterday?

I can only explain it as pure unadulterated trolling

Probably "its not working, lets throw some physicality on".

Felt a bit to me like he put out the team he should have too. Gave Hoolahan a chance to prove he can play, Hooper is looking like the best striker to have someone like Wes in behind him. Dared to play wingers still even with a man less to be strong in the middle.

Took the lead then the side blew up.

Johan Elmander is about as physical as bloomin Jedward

I had no qualms with the original side. Was kind of forced on him with RVW and Fer injured. Although I'd have played Howson from the start.

My qualms are with the fact at 4-1 down he's basically said second half let's just take the loss (says pretty much that in his post match interview) I'm sorry but its not like Villa have the freakin iron curtain as a defence.

Should've gone Elmander for Johnson and stuck two up top. I'd have accepted taking Wes off even. The only thing he did was an enforced change of Snodgrass off (injured) for Pilkington.

For a manager who prides himself on defence, what u saw yesterday compared to Spurs was bewildering. In fact what I've seen in three successive away games compared to Spurs/Citeh at home is bewildering. In those two home games we've defended well as we've pressured them in possession, not allowing them time on the ball, forcing mistakes. Against Villa yesterday we scored then just sat off! Look at how Vlaar is allowed to put in that cross for the first goal, its an abomination!!! The same happened at Cardiff, we played well first half pressing high, then second half we sat off and they scored two quick goals and we lost.

I've just lost all hope long ago, I just pray Sunderland or WBA somehow contrive to get less points than us and take that third spot and we can start again in the summer with a new manager

You knew my thoughts on this at the seasons start, Norwich have stayed up playing a whole team as a defensive unit and the minute their game has to expand it completely shatters the back.

Long way to go yet, youre only 3 points behind us and people think we're safe for some reason

[LastDamnation]

Charlie Adam charged by FA over stamp on Giroud.

Which one? :P

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can anybody, anywhere explain to me what Chris Hughton was thinking when he subbed Johan Elmander on right wing yesterday?

I can only explain it as pure unadulterated trolling

Probably "its not working, lets throw some physicality on".

Felt a bit to me like he put out the team he should have too. Gave Hoolahan a chance to prove he can play, Hooper is looking like the best striker to have someone like Wes in behind him. Dared to play wingers still even with a man less to be strong in the middle.

Took the lead then the side blew up.

Johan Elmander is about as physical as bloomin Jedward

I had no qualms with the original side. Was kind of forced on him with RVW and Fer injured. Although I'd have played Howson from the start.

My qualms are with the fact at 4-1 down he's basically said second half let's just take the loss (says pretty much that in his post match interview) I'm sorry but its not like Villa have the freakin iron curtain as a defence.

Should've gone Elmander for Johnson and stuck two up top. I'd have accepted taking Wes off even. The only thing he did was an enforced change of Snodgrass off (injured) for Pilkington.

For a manager who prides himself on defence, what u saw yesterday compared to Spurs was bewildering. In fact what I've seen in three successive away games compared to Spurs/Citeh at home is bewildering. In those two home games we've defended well as we've pressured them in possession, not allowing them time on the ball, forcing mistakes. Against Villa yesterday we scored then just sat off! Look at how Vlaar is allowed to put in that cross for the first goal, its an abomination!!! The same happened at Cardiff, we played well first half pressing high, then second half we sat off and they scored two quick goals and we lost.

I've just lost all hope long ago, I just pray Sunderland or WBA somehow contrive to get less points than us and take that third spot and we can start again in the summer with a new manager

You knew my thoughts on this at the seasons start, Norwich have stayed up playing a whole team as a defensive unit and the minute their game has to expand it completely shatters the back.

Long way to go yet, youre only 3 points behind us and people think we're safe for some reason

You're kinda in the same position we were last year, only a few points off trouble, but a lot of teams between you and trouble. I reckon 36/37 will be safe this year, so two more wins should do it for you IMO.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Yeah, im pretty confident we just need to do the job at home in the games we should be targeting. Big AC will carry us home

[GSC]

Lamberts team played their way to safety.

Last year Hughton sacrificed attacking intent in his mission to secure up the back.

This year the money spent has forced him to open up from that approach and its proven a task beyond him.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Lamberts team played their way to safety.

Last year Hughton sacrificed attacking intent in his mission to secure up the back.

This year the money spent has forced him to open up from that approach and its proven a task beyond him.

Spot on really GSC

Not just a task beyond him, a task in another stratosphere for him. Hasn't the foggiest how to get a team scoring goals, or how to use his strikers which he brought. I mean two of Hooper's five goals were pure luck anyways, so really between him and RVW they have 4 genuine goals.

Like I said hopefully he can pull out some wins over Sunderland, Stoke and WBA at home to see us safe. Then we can split amicably in the summer and bring in a manager who isn't out of his depth.

[The Special Juan]

Lamberts team played their way to safety.

Last year Hughton sacrificed attacking intent in his mission to secure up the back.

This year the money spent has forced him to open up from that approach and its proven a task beyond him.

Spot on really GSC

Not just a task beyond him, a task in another stratosphere for him. Hasn't the foggiest how to get a team scoring goals, or how to use his strikers which he brought. I mean two of Hooper's five goals were pure luck anyways, so really between him and RVW they have 4 genuine goals.

Like I said hopefully he can pull out some wins over Sunderland, Stoke and WBA at home to see us safe. Then we can split amicably in the summer and bring in a manager who isn't out of his depth.

Who? I vote Meulensteen Give Hoddle a job?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Lamberts team played their way to safety.

Last year Hughton sacrificed attacking intent in his mission to secure up the back.

This year the money spent has forced him to open up from that approach and its proven a task beyond him.

Spot on really GSC

Not just a task beyond him, a task in another stratosphere for him. Hasn't the foggiest how to get a team scoring goals, or how to use his strikers which he brought. I mean two of Hooper's five goals were pure luck anyways, so really between him and RVW they have 4 genuine goals.

Like I said hopefully he can pull out some wins over Sunderland, Stoke and WBA at home to see us safe. Then we can split amicably in the summer and bring in a manager who isn't out of his depth.

Who?  I vote Meulensteen  Give Hoddle a job?

Oh it'll be Lennon TSJ, and its depressing me that its got to the point where I'd rather that (insert insulting expletive here) than Hughton

[The Special Juan]

Hmm Lenny would be massively out of his depth in England. You're right to be afraid. Moyes might be available though I wonder if you might get Big Eck McLeish.

[GSC]

Probably someone from Holland

[socal1976]

Charlie Adam charged by FA over stamp on Giroud.

Which one? :P

Clearly, Stoke played a dirty match and kicked Arsenal about the pitch. But the gunners didn't respond and play well and were outplayed. Still one doesn't wonder why English teams have so much trouble finishing a CL's tie at full strength because the level of physicality tolerated in the EPL does not fly on the continent. One of the Stoke players basically admitted that they were there to kick Arsenal. More reason not to like Stoke, they are a dirty team, sorry I don't buy all this nonsense about being committed and this is a man's game. Kicking and stomping your opposition is not football there is art to tackle which involves getting the ball without injuring yourself or your opponent. We needed Flamini in this match to start stomping back at the thugs that are Stoke City.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Malky is nailed on. Shame, hes not that good and it will end in tears.

For all Lambert did at Norwich, theres nowt to suggest he'd have ever taken you on further and hes had better players available at Villa and made them a very odd side. He's a manager i'd love to have with a Director of Football above him, someone with some discipline and nous in the market. I honestly think second season syndrome would have hit and Lambert would have sent you back down.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Socal has finally turned up to cry about the loss, strange how none of the other teams complain about the physicality of a contact sport.

[socal1976]

Socal has finally turned up to cry about the loss, strange how none of the other teams complain about the physicality of a contact sport.

Hammersmith I find you about as enjoyable to have a conversation with as getting a root canal. Your mommy and whoever your father supposedly is didn't teach you the respect to talk to anyone without throwing out insults. So here is where my conversation with you ends. Comeback when you aren't a loud mouthed, boring, and insulting poster. Bugger off.

[Fernando]

Socal has finally turned up to cry about the loss, strange how none of the other teams complain about the physicality of a contact sport.

‘It’s over now but I do think Adnan is going to need a little bit more protection or we are going to find he is getting kicked up and down.

‘I do think he deserves a little bit more than he is getting at this time.

It appears the United manager complains about the physicality of a contact sport.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Socal has finally turned up to cry about the loss, strange how none of the other teams complain about the physicality of a contact sport.

Hammersmith I find you about as enjoyable to have a conversation with as getting a root canal. Your mommy and whoever your father supposedly is didn't teach you the respect to talk to anyone without throwing out insults. So here is where my conversation with you ends. Comeback when you aren't a loud mouthed, boring,  and insulting poster. Bugger off.

Come on now Socal dry your eyes out it's only a game of football, i'm eagerly awaiting your next hissy fit, we've had referee conspiracies and now moaning about the physical nature of the premier league.

[NickisBHAFC]

Malky is nailed on. Shame, hes not that good and it will end in tears.

For all Lambert did at Norwich, theres nowt to suggest he'd have ever taken you on further and hes had better players available at Villa and made them a very odd side. He's a manager i'd love to have with a Director of Football above him, someone with some discipline and nous in the market. I honestly think second season syndrome would have hit and Lambert would have sent you back down.

I don't get why you think Malky isn't a good manager. Since he left Cardiff have just slipped more and more down the table.

His record is brilliant.

1st season, play offs as well as losing in the capital one cup final on penalty's to liverpool. They also lost to West Ham, a side with the squad they had shouldn't of even of been in the play offs.

2nd season, won the league with ease. As well as puling of some great signings.

Premiership, all was fine, beat Swansea at home as well. Great manager.

Norwich would be perfect for him.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Socal has finally turned up to cry about the loss, strange how none of the other teams complain about the physicality of a contact sport.

‘It’s over now but I do think Adnan is going to need a little bit more protection or we are going to find he is getting kicked up and down.

‘I do think he deserves a little bit more than he is getting at this time.

It appears the United manager complains about the physicality of a contact sport.

It's an observation, he was at one point being targeted, Moyes doesn't though constantly cry about any team who has the temerity to tackle hard.

[skyeman]

Football is a contact sport but not a collision sport. In football, contact is incidental - but somewhat allowed.


There is a difference

[socal1976]

Socal has finally turned up to cry about the loss, strange how none of the other teams complain about the physicality of a contact sport.

‘It’s over now but I do think Adnan is going to need a little bit more protection or we are going to find he is getting kicked up and down.

‘I do think he deserves a little bit more than he is getting at this time.

It appears the United manager complains about the physicality of a contact sport.

Of course Stoke are dirty, they lead the league in fouls and that is why Charlie Adam stomping Giroud is a violation of the rules and the FA are going to punish him for it.

But you don't want to talk to HH; first he will insult you, then he will correct your grammar, and finally he will just bore you to death.

[socal1976]

Football is a contact sport but not a collision sport. In football, contact is incidental - but somewhat allowed.


There is a difference

Exactly, contact is allowed to get the ball but you aren't allowed to be reckless and what Adam did was not in the rules of the game and was dirty. I like a good tackle like any fan, but I like the tackle to be fair and clean. And Stoke city are a dirty team filled with leg breakers like Shawcross.

[Hammersmith harrier]

No only you Socal, when you finally accept that your team deserved to lose and don't come out with yet another excuse I may leave you alone but until then i'll keep letting you know what a cry baby you are.

[GSC]

Can you two just go into the closet and get it over with?

[Fernando]

Charlie Adam charged by FA over stamp on Giroud.

But the gunners didn't respond and play well and were outplayed.

Im pretty sure that's it right there HH. Time to put your big boy pants on and move on.

[socal1976]

You apparently can't read because I posted twice on this thread that Arsenal deserved to lose and were outplayed. But that doesn't change the fact that Stoke are dirty, got away with some rough stuff. That is why the FA agrees with me and is charging Adam. I don't even think he got a card for his foul. But a nice 3 match ban will fix his jig. Hopefully, Stoke will get relegated soon and can go on kicking people in the Championship where they belong. Frankly, your opinion of me won't change anything about what I chose to post, I just don't respect or like you enough to care.

[Hammersmith harrier]

You don't care but feel the need to reply each and every time?

[socal1976]

Yes when you misrepresent the record of what I said I chose to reply so that my point is clear.

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