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Post by monty junior Thu 13 Mar 2014, 10:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

socal1976 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
socal1976 wrote:It is kind of weird CS that Duty considers us an elite club and the quality of players (that Wenger has signed) and our CL football as the main reasons, but then he considers Wenger a failure. It looks like a logical inconsistency to me. And I can't name 10 clubs in Europe bigger or better than we are.

Bigger - Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan
Better - Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, Dortmund/Napoli.

There we go. The first three have better history and are a "bigger" club in that respect. The other seven are just...better.

Is that why Napoli got knocked of our CL group. Dortmund is nowhere near the team they were earlier in the year when we played in CL in terms of injuries and we split with them. If you really want to measure we have to look at criteria. If it is "better" I disagree certainly with regards to Dortmund and Napoli as of right now or throughout the season. Dortmund is behind Schalke and Leverkusen and neither one of those teams are all that mighty this year. Here are the teams if I am ranking the "better" aspect

1. Bayern
2. real
3. Barca
4. Chelsea
5. PSG
6. Juventus
7. Man City
8. Atleti
9. Arsenal

So Arsenal are in the top 10, even if you would rate Dortmund who is on the skids right now as being better, which I don't. Liverpool would have a fair shout right now at coming in ahead of us. That would still put us in the top 10 in terms of quality.

Dortmund are a fairly comfortable second now and are almost certainly in to the CL quarters. Depends what you regard as elite, for me the word elite is the very very best like Bayern, Real, Barca even Man U, teams who have a history of domestic and European domination. Arsenal are the level below, certainly no disgrace.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 2:38 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
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compelling and rich wrote:cricket/tennis/rugby all have stopping points which enable reviews easily. the video review/hawk eye were brought into the existing rules regards stoppages they didnt change them. what your suggesting is to take control from the on field ref something which has always been a big key in football. linesmans/5/6 offical are all there purely to assist the ref, in the end it always the refs choice


what i am suggesting is the way forward. 

the other sports have been changed for the better and so can football- but in a different way.

wont happen mate, look how long it took to bring in goal line technology something which is easy and very clear cut. what your suggesting brings far too many grey areas and far too much of a radical change that the governing bodies will never go for it

its not a radical change its just having a 4th official watching tv screens real time allowed to talk to the ref real time. I would say it may take a long time to happen- but I would hope it would happen within 10 years or so,

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Post by kingraf Sat 22 Mar 2014, 2:44 pm

I only logged in hoping that SoCal had already erupted - Someone PM me when the carnage begins... hopefully, CS is also logged on simultaneously - this could be the greatest threat in the history of the interweb
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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 22 Mar 2014, 2:47 pm

kingraf wrote:I only logged in hoping that SoCal had already erupted - Someone PM me when the carnage begins... hopefully, CS is also logged on simultaneously - this could be the greatest threat in the history of the interweb

Well I have been on the boxing forum debating wilder v klitschko.

We lost against Chelsea, 1-0 or 6-0 it makes no difference because we needed 3 points to stay in the title race, goal difference is not a problem.

Least we can concentrate on the FA cup now.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 22 Mar 2014, 2:48 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:cricket/tennis/rugby all have stopping points which enable reviews easily. the video review/hawk eye were brought into the existing rules regards stoppages they didnt change them. what your suggesting is to take control from the on field ref something which has always been a big key in football. linesmans/5/6 offical are all there purely to assist the ref, in the end it always the refs choice


what i am suggesting is the way forward. 

the other sports have been changed for the better and so can football- but in a different way.

wont happen mate, look how long it took to bring in goal line technology something which is easy and very clear cut. what your suggesting brings far too many grey areas and far too much of a radical change that the governing bodies will never go for it

its not a radical change its just having a 4th official watching tv screens real time allowed to talk to the ref real time. I would say it may take a long time to happen- but I would hope it would happen within 10 years or so,

jose mourinho is in favour of a 4th official watching a tv screen, he jussaid so in his interview now.

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Post by Ent Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:03 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Arsenal bottle it. Copy and paste this as many times across the years as necessary

It's not bottling it when they aren't good enough.

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:08 pm

Exactly. Bottling it, is if they lose the F.A Cup now because they are the strongest remaining team by a mile. They are a long way off being the strongest in the EPL, that's the difference.

Cardiff  1-0

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:10 pm

They are certainly flaky against the cream.

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:17 pm

Classy play by Liverpool to level up.

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Post by Hibbz Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:24 pm

As it stands Arsenal would be drawing against over 70% of the other premiership sides playing today apart from Chelsea. Really, really unlucky to lose.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:26 pm

Hibbz wrote:As it stands Arsenal would be drawing against over 70% of the other premiership sides playing today apart from Chelsea. Really, really unlucky to lose.
you have either gone insane or still have last nights argument with who ever it was on the brain.. you are like  a dog with a bone sometimes lad!!

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:29 pm

So sloppy by Liverpool.

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:35 pm

you sense the momentum has run out for Sunderland or they peaked at the wrong time. not great when your allowing norwich to bang goals past you. poyet the saviour was the cry weeks ago, don't look to great now.....

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:41 pm

John wrote:you sense the momentum has run out for Sunderland or they peaked at the wrong time. not great when your allowing norwich to bang goals past you. poyet the saviour was the cry weeks ago, don't look to great now.....

hughton the saviour!!

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:42 pm

I don't think i've seen more of a see-saw game then Cardiff/Liverpool.
All Cardiff 1-0
All Liverpool 1-1
All Cardiff 2-1
All Liverpool 2-2

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:43 pm

Arsenal bottle it again, brilliant.

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Post by Ent Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:43 pm

Anyone see tettys goal?

Apparently it was ridiculous.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:47 pm

Arsenal were pitiful...Where was the fight ???


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 22 Mar 2014, 3:52 pm

When they dont fight for it, which they havent, its bottling it for me.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:01 pm

That Tettey goal is ridiculous

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:07 pm

so the mighty hammers take on United tonight...i think it will be a reasonably close game, but sadly i think United will take it 2-1.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:08 pm

A good goal but Bentley's was better Cool
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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:11 pm

C'mon the 'POOL!!!
Don't fook this up!

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:14 pm

think we are last on MOTD, mysti.....terrible.

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:18 pm

4-2 Liverpool SAS
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:25 pm

John wrote:think we are last on MOTD, mysti.....terrible.


When is Palace not!!

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Post by CFCNick Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:25 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:cricket/tennis/rugby all have stopping points which enable reviews easily. the video review/hawk eye were brought into the existing rules regards stoppages they didnt change them. what your suggesting is to take control from the on field ref something which has always been a big key in football. linesmans/5/6 offical are all there purely to assist the ref, in the end it always the refs choice


what i am suggesting is the way forward. 

the other sports have been changed for the better and so can football- but in a different way.

wont happen mate, look how long it took to bring in goal line technology something which is easy and very clear cut. what your suggesting brings far too many grey areas and far too much of a radical change that the governing bodies will never go for it

its not a radical change its just having a 4th official watching tv screens real time allowed to talk to the ref real time. I would say it may take a long time to happen- but I would hope it would happen within 10 years or so,

jose mourinho is in favour of a 4th official watching a tv screen, he jussaid so in his interview now.

The 4th official saw the handball incident on tv in the tunnel today but the current rules say he's not allowed to advise the ref.

We 100% need a tv official. Just for calls in the moment whilst the ball is already dead. Once the play starts reviews shouldn't be allowed. Like the NFL. As soon as the ball is back in play the "wronged" party stays wronged.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:30 pm

Liverpool's attack is the best in the premiership...Very impressive..

Chelsea's run in will be the difference.

Can see my misfiring City finishing third !!..

Will 3rd be enough for Pelle..

Not sure..

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:32 pm

5-2 Liverpool SAS again!

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:33 pm

It's only Cardiff, a championship team at best. SAS should be running riot.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:35 pm

And they are running riot!

some pass by sturridge for suraez's 2nd.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:40 pm

newcastle come on just give us a goal. you are safe..... sort us out.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:48 pm

Fulham getting smashed

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:48 pm

that fulham goal difference will be the killer come may

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Post by GSC Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:50 pm

Rubbing salt into the wounds as Demichilis scores
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:52 pm

Cisse missed a sitter- ta for the pt Newcastle! phew

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:52 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:53 pm

mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad  mad

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Post by GSC Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:53 pm

Papiss Cisse with a cruel goal for Palace
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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:53 pm

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!

can see suarez getting that epl goal tally record now


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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:53 pm

How many hatricks does sureaz need!!

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:54 pm

well done John..

gutting for us that.. luckily the bottom 3 are so lame

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:57 pm

17 goals scored by the top 3 today.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 4:59 pm

Morrision scored for QPR.

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Post by GSC Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:00 pm

Zamora and Benayoun wasnt it?
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:05 pm

Norwich had a blinder today. Looking safe now

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:07 pm

Yikes, Carroll's going to have a field day it seems.
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Post by GSC Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:07 pm

Unless Fellaini plays CB I guess
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:07 pm

Millwall look so down.

Wasn't a good idea for holloway to come back so soon in to work.. 

But hey all good if he does send them down- I hate playing them(if we go down)

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Post by socal1976 Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:09 pm

What a ridiculous performance by Arsenal and a great match by Jose's side. Absolutely pathetic. There is still a massive improvement we need to make to close the gap with Chelsea and City. I just hope this doesn't completely crush our confidence and cause us to blow the FA cup as well.

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Post by Crimey Sat 22 Mar 2014, 5:10 pm

Suarez already has more goals than RVP finished with last year and is only one assist behind how many Mata had last year. Right now, I'd say he is up there with Messi and Ronaldo. It will be interesting to see how Chelsea and City approach the Liverpool games, attack and they could be done on the counter, sit back and Liverpool can break them down. Expect Chelsea will go for the early goal and then try and sit back for the rest of the game, City will probably just out-score Liverpool, on paper the Liverpool-City game should be a stormer.

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