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Post by The Special Juan Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:18 pm

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Post by laverfan Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:14 pm

Well done to Murray. I was hoping for Anderson to sneak the TB.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:14 pm

Just read  article on Henman whining about volleying. Can I just say that actually I reckon 3 of the top 4 can all volley at his level, they just don't and don't need to as they are better in every single feasible other aspect than he could have dreamed off
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:15 pm

Very well played Murray, he is looking good
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:17 pm

Be intriguing to see if Djokovic comes out firing.

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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:22 pm

DirectView2 wrote:
Jahu wrote:Want Kevin to take this set, but also need to see the Korgi vs cocker spaniel

How about a cilic vs Nick Kyrigious finals?  boxing 

Haha, where is that come from? I would not mind it  laughing 
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Post by naxroy Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:23 pm

for ladies quarters if sharapova makes it, it will be 5/8 players whos lastname ends in "ova"

thats all I can say about wta

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:23 pm

Jahu wrote:
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Jahu wrote:Want Kevin to take this set, but also need to see the Korgi vs cocker spaniel

How about a cilic vs Nick Kyrigious finals?  boxing 

Haha, where is that come from? I would not mind it  laughing 


From the land of pure imagination?
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Post by lags72 Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:24 pm

Great performance by Murray, very composed & efficient  clap 

And great to see Jimmy Connors back here, now in the commentary box for Djokovic/Tsonga

More match wins at Wimbledon than any other player, so Jimbo sure knows what he's talking about .......

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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:26 pm

Come on Tsonga. You know what to do...
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:31 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Just read  article on Henman whining about volleying. Can I just say that actually I reckon 3 of the top 4 can all volley at his level, they just don't and don't need to as they are better in every single feasible other aspect than he could have dreamed off
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I beg to differ.

Henman was a top volleyer and is streets ahead of the top 4 in that department.

If Tim was just a little stronger mentally, he would be a Wimbledon champion.

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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:36 pm

That was different age/style.

Tim was cute and great s/v.

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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:39 pm

Has the bad Tsonga turned up tonight?

Wake up boy.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:44 pm

Dimitrov through in straights.

Murray beckons.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:45 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Just read  article on Henman whining about volleying. Can I just say that actually I reckon 3 of the top 4 can all volley at his level, they just don't and don't need to as they are better in every single feasible other aspect than he could have dreamed off
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I beg to differ.

Henman was a top volleyer and is streets ahead of the top 4 in that department.

If Tim was just a little stronger mentally, he would be a Wimbledon champion.


A lot stronger mentally, maybe. My memories of Tim are sheer disappointment and how often do see Rafa, Roger and Murray lose their net points?
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:50 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Just read  article on Henman whining about volleying. Can I just say that actually I reckon 3 of the top 4 can all volley at his level, they just don't and don't need to as they are better in every single feasible other aspect than he could have dreamed off
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I beg to differ.

Henman was a top volleyer and is streets ahead of the top 4 in that department.

If Tim was just a little stronger mentally, he would be a Wimbledon champion.


A lot stronger mentally, maybe. My memories of Tim are sheer disappointment and how often do see Rafa, Roger and Murray lose their net points?

They lose their fair share of points at the net.

How often do you see them S@V?


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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:52 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Just read  article on Henman whining about volleying. Can I just say that actually I reckon 3 of the top 4 can all volley at his level, they just don't and don't need to as they are better in every single feasible other aspect than he could have dreamed off
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I beg to differ.

Henman was a top volleyer and is streets ahead of the top 4 in that department.

If Tim was just a little stronger mentally, he would be a Wimbledon champion.


A lot stronger mentally, maybe. My memories of Tim are sheer disappointment and how often do see Rafa, Roger and Murray lose their net points?

They lose their fair share of points at the net.

How often do you see them S@V?


Almost never but we both know that's it's a tactic that does not consistently work these days on these courts, except maybe the first few days here and at Queen's
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Post by naxroy Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:52 pm

djokovic - murray semi is going to be quite a thriller

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:53 pm

Very good serving from Novak
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Post by DirectView2 Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:53 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Jahu wrote:
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Jahu wrote:Want Kevin to take this set, but also need to see the Korgi vs cocker spaniel

How about a cilic vs Nick Kyrigious finals?  boxing 

Haha, where is that come from? I would not mind it  laughing 


From the land of pure imagination?

You should be happy at least my imagination is not stagnated.  thumbsup 

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Post by DirectView2 Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:54 pm

naxroy wrote:djokovic - murray semi is going to be quite a thriller

Cilic Murrray semi would be even bigger thriller than Cilic -Nole Quarters.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:57 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Just read  article on Henman whining about volleying. Can I just say that actually I reckon 3 of the top 4 can all volley at his level, they just don't and don't need to as they are better in every single feasible other aspect than he could have dreamed off
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I beg to differ.

Henman was a top volleyer and is streets ahead of the top 4 in that department.

If Tim was just a little stronger mentally, he would be a Wimbledon champion.


A lot stronger mentally, maybe. My memories of Tim are sheer disappointment and how often do see Rafa, Roger and Murray lose their net points?

They lose their fair share of points at the net.

How often do you see them S@V?


Almost never but we both know that's it's a tactic that does not consistently work these days on these courts, except maybe the first few days here and at Queen's

On that basis I can't see then how the top 4 would be of the same quality of volleying against someone who was a very accomplished and seasoned volleyer.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:57 pm

Because they do still volley, just in different circumstances
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:02 pm

But it doesn't make them volleyers in Henmans league.

The only area I would rank Federer or Nadal near Henman is probably on the overhead. Other than that, they are miles behind.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:03 pm

Tsonga just has nothing to trouble Djokovic.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:04 pm

Fair enough, I'd put Roger's stretch backhand volley and Rafa's drop volley up there too at least
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Post by naxroy Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:05 pm

looks like nole just waits till the 3-3 or 4-4 moment of the set to perform at a minimum effort

like hiding real strengh

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:05 pm

I agree, as long as Novak keeps serving well Tsonga won't get a look in
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:09 pm

Tsonga is just mentally beat.

HM you must be pleased with what you have seen?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:33 pm

JWT is growing into it. Still wont win but would be great if he can nick a break
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Post by slashermcguirk Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:42 pm

Seriously high standard of tennis between dojokovic and tsonga!! Really impressive

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:46 pm

Df time?
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Post by DirectView2 Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:46 pm

Tsonga monga gonna win from 2 set down to repeat his heroics.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:48 pm

Djokovic going on another walkabout. Needs to be careful.

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Post by The Special Juan Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:50 pm

It's like Djokovic v the crowd with the crowd playing through Tsonga. How can Novak play DC when he hates crowds against him?
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Post by slashermcguirk Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:51 pm

Djokovic walkabout?? He is playing unreal tennis!! Tsonga playing incredible too, not much you can do if tsonga is pummelling the ball into the corners. Superb match

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Post by The Special Juan Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:54 pm

*hates crowds being against him.
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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:56 pm

Andrew said it nicely: everytime crowd is against Djoko, he starts fisting after every point, inviting the crowd back, that I'm here too.

Sad little earlobe  boxing 
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:57 pm

I do hope Tsonga has the energy reserves for a 5 set scrap.

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Post by slashermcguirk Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:58 pm

Yeah but djokovic tends to win when the crowd are against him. Remember French open against tsonga just last month

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Post by MrInvisible Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:58 pm

Just wanted to pick up on the comments about Henman. His volleying was excellent, particularly the backhand volley (also, do people remember his backhand smash - the best in the game!). I really do disagree with the myth that he was a bottler and would have won more if he was mentally stronger. For me, Henman was a tough match player - obviously not in the same league as Murray but Henman's number of tournaments won, and record in Davis Cup and Wimbledon shows how much of a battler he was.

For me, there was just 1 factor which stopped Henman reaching the very top and winning a slam, and that was the serve. Not consistent enough and not quite a big enough weapon to give him those important cheap points at business end of a set against the likes of Hewitt, Sampras, Agassi (and Ivanisevic!). Compare and contrast with Thomas Johansson, winner of Aus Open. I would argue that Henman was a more rounded player but Johansson had a much more potent serve.

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Post by DirectView2 Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:00 pm

interesting tie break, Monga gonna take it.

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Post by DirectView2 Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:00 pm

Come on monga.

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Post by The Special Juan Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:03 pm

slashermcguirk wrote:Yeah but djokovic tends to win when the crowd are against him. Remember French open against tsonga just last month

What about 7/7/13? Wink
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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:05 pm

Tsonga nuclear.

Go go goooo
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:06 pm

What a shot
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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:07 pm

Omg look at Djokos face. What a disgrace.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:07 pm

I wouldn't call Henman a bottler MrI.

2001 was unique for him to be in a winning position in a semi when the rain came when previously he had been spanked by Sampras. For Tim being in a winning position in Slam semi was uncharted territory.

I agree with the serve aspect.

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Post by The Special Juan Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:07 pm

Ah Jimmy called it. What a return.
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Post by Jahu Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:09 pm

Lucky slap from Djoko again.

He was better no doubt, Tsonga woke up late and should fo back to challeneger tour.
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Post by slashermcguirk Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:10 pm

Haha, what a return!! Legend

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