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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:19 pm

After the Open Championship....this is what the OWGR top 100 should look like:

1 Adam Scott 9.241
2 Rory McIlroy 8.163 ==> Winner of the Open Championship
3 Henrik Stenson 7.812
4 Justin Rose 7.341
5 Sergio Garcia 7.050
6 Bubba Watson 6.805
7 Matt Kuchar 6.655
8 Jason Day 6.397
9 Tiger Woods 6.230
10 Jim Furyk 6.022
11 Jordan Spieth 5.788
12 Martin Kaymer 5.431
13 Phil Mickelson 5.232
14 Dustin Johnson 5.001
15 Zach Johnson 5.085
16 Graeme McDowell 4.831
17 Hideki Matsuyama 4.798
18 Rickie Fowler 4.664
19 Jimmy Walker 4.199
20 Steve Stricker 4.052
21 Charl Schwartzel 3.991
22 Victor Dubuisson 3.999
23 Keegan Bradley 3.932
24 Luke Donald 3.929
25 Jason Dufner 3.866
26 Thomas Bjorn 3.817
27 Miguel A Jimenez 3.606
28 Ian Poulter 3.586
29 Webb Simpson 3.524
30 Patrick Reed 3.515
31 Stephen Gallacher 3.401
32 Jamie Donaldson 3.395
33 Thongchai Jaidee 3.294
34 Lee Westwood 3.237
35 Brandt Snedeker 3.152
36 Bill Haas 3.147
37 Kevin Na 3.096
38 Graham Delaet 3.083
39 Ryan Moore 3.038
40 Kevin Streelman 3.003
41 Brendon Todd 2.921
42 Francesco Molinari 2.867
43 Chris Kirk 2.780
44 Hunter Mahan 2.706
45 Jonas Blixt 2.682
46 Joost Luiten 2.644
47 Gary Woodland 2.593
48 Harris English 2.585
49 Matt Every 2.585
50 Mikko Ilonen 2.549
======== Bridgestone Bubble Point
51 Marc Leishman 2.533
52 Angel Cabrera 2.517
53 Matt Jones 2.515
54 Louis Oosthuizen 2.508
55 Kevin Stadler 2.470
56 Billy Horschel 2.415
57 John Senden 2.389
58 Russell Henley 2.281
59 Shane Lowry 2.269
60 Koumei Oda 2.199
61 Pablo Larrazabal 2.196
62 Ryan Palmer 2.179
63 Ernie Els 2.156
64 J.B. Holmes 2.117
65 Matteo Manassero 2.116
66 Brian Harman 2.091
67 Charley Hoffman 2.075
68 George Coetzee 2.070
69 Richard Sterne 2.047
70 Bernd Wiesberger 2.026
71 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 2.021
72 K.J. Choi 1.961
73 Rafael Cabrera Bello 1.905
74 Erik Compton 1.860
75 Ben Martin 1.837
76 Charles Howell-III 1.822
77 Brooks Koepka 1.795
78 Ryo Ishikawa 1.793
79 Chris Stroud 1.783
80 Fredrik Jacobson 1.778
81 Paul Casey 1.759
82 Nick Watney 1.744
83 Boo Weekley 1.739
84 George McNeill 1.733
85 Brendon de Jonge 1.733
86 Anirban Lahiri 1.712
87 Chesson Hadley 1.698
88 Scott Stallings 1.677
89 Chris Wood 1.592
90 Kim Hyung-sung 1.589
91 Tommy Fleetwood 1.574
92 Ross Fisher 1.564
93 David Hearn 1.562
94 Thorbjorn Olesen 1.562
95 Branden Grace 1.541
96 Daniel Summerhays 1.538
97 Marc Warren 1.515
98 Danny Willett 1.515
99 Fabrizio Zanotti 1.502
100 Ben Crane 1.502
============ Usually the top 100 get into the PGA Championship
101 Russell Knox 1.496
102 Noh Seung-yul 1.485
103 Will Mackenzie 1.475


And the Euro Ryder Cup Standings (World Points)  Top 20

1 Rory McIlroy 358.26
2 Henrik Stenson 346.99

3 Sergio Garcia 317.40
4 Justin Rose 261.33
5 Martin Kaymer 245.87
6 Thomas Bjorn 193.77

7 Victor Dubuisson 186.97
8 Luke Donald 162.44
9 Jamie Donaldson 162.23
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10 Stephen Gallacher 154.44
11 Graeme McDowell 150.93
12 Ian Poulter 147.43
13 Miguel Jimenez 140.61
14 Francesco Molinari 133.44
15 Joost Luiten 123.50
16 Lee Westwood 106.57
17 Pablo Larrazabal 106.27
18 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 94.22
19 Shane Lowry 93.20
20 Mikko Ilonen 92.22


Bolded Players in via the Euro list
Italicized Players in via the World Point list.


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Post by kwinigolfer Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:40 pm

thumbsup 

McDowell getting closer, closer still after this week hopefully.
Donaldson looking dodgier and dodgier and Westwood losing ground every week.

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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:44 pm

Kwini: Frankie has earned enough phantom FE points for a 2014-15 PGATour Card.

If he doesn't make the team on merit, and McGinley snubs him for someone like Westwood who is behind him, I think he bails from the Euro Tour.

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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:23 pm

GMac and Luke can do their RC prospects some good next week in Canada.

Wonder if Dodo and Shane will parlay their Top 10 to play Canada?

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:26 pm

Hope so. I see Thomas Aiken is playing; an interesting field if they all play.

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Post by pedro Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:14 pm

Cheers GPB,
Bjorn is overtaken and moves to the Worlds Points list so I think he should be in italic now (and Donaldson in bold).

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Post by sirbenson Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:28 pm

Surely Lowry is playing his way into being talked about being a potential Wildcard no?

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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:38 pm

pedro wrote:Cheers GPB,
Bjorn is overtaken and moves to the Worlds Points list so I think he should be in italic now (and Donaldson in bold).

Correct, I just assumed Bjorn and Stenson earned enough to overtake Donaldson who missed the cut.

I will edit the tags. Thanks.

Third, Fourth, and Fifth are only 50,000 Euro apart.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:42 pm

I would like to see Lowry and Franny in the frame, and GPB makes a good point that Shane might be eligible for a free pass in to this week's Canadian Open.
But he also has a disadvantage in that all his competitors are playing Bridgestone where they'll get money for nothing, points for free.
At least he's sure of playing the PGA (and the 2015 Open).


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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:45 pm

sirbenson wrote:Surely Lowry is playing his way into being talked about being a potential Wildcard no?

With GMac, IJP, Miguel, Frankie, and WESTY ahead of him in the standings, I don't think many are talking about Shane for a wildcard.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:48 pm

That's as maybe, GPB, but Lowry would be a true wild card, a great shotmaker, who most of the US Team would be unfamiliar with, not to mention a potentially better option as a partner for Rory.

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Post by sirbenson Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:54 pm

Yes, probably a bit too soon for him to make the Ryder Cup, when does qualifying end for both teams?

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Post by pedro Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:55 pm

Shane (and Frannie) needs to produce a few more good results to be considered imo. I still think IJP is a shoe-in for a pick and that Gmac will get a pick as well. If Bjorn or his son drops out of the automatic qualifying places I don't think either will get a pick. Westy will have to watch from Worksop, or at best be a VC (maybe with MAJ, or surely with TB if he drops out.)

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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:55 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:I would like to see Lowry and Franny in the frame, and GPB makes a good point that Shane might be eligible for a free pass in to this week's Canadian Open.
But he also has a disadvantage in that all his competitors are playing Bridgestone where they'll get money for nothing, points for free.
At least he's sure of playing the PGA (and the 2015 Open).


The only way Shane can get to B-Stone is to play Canada this week. Reno-Tahoe would probably offer a sponsors invite if he asked so he could make a 3 week excursion to North America. He is most definitely getting an invite to Valhalla.

Just checked and Shane should get an invite to Canada. Along with DoDo Molinari if he wants it.

No one of note is playing the Russian Open (and I don't blame them) this week. I don't think Russia is a place I would want to be right now.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:57 pm

Qualifying ends at the PGA for the US but Europe has at least a couple more weeks.

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Post by pedro Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:01 pm

Edit: In a presser after today's round Tiger said he would pick Tiger if he was Tom Watson.... He was also bigging up his own performance at Medinah 2 years ago, building a compelling (?) case for himself. Hehe. I hope Uncle Tom picks Tiger. Should guarantee another Euro victory.

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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:01 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:That's as maybe, GPB, but Lowry would be a true wild card, a great shotmaker, who most of the US Team would be unfamiliar with, not to mention a potentially better option as a partner for Rory.

IMO: Rory/Sergio  and Kaymer/Stenson will be the A-TEAMS for Europe.  I think the first two sessions revolve around these two pairings.

I have no idea who Doobie might play with.  I think he will be a DUCK out of water at Gleneagles.


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Post by sirbenson Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:04 pm

Lowry and Edaordo really should play in Canada...career wise it's a no brainer for Shane. Lots to play for if he goes

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Post by John Cregan Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:12 pm

If RC was next week my WC's would be McDowell, Garcia & Poulter with Lowry,Gallagher, Casey & Westwood in the frame for me.............

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Post by John Cregan Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:13 pm

GPB wrote:
kwinigolfer wrote:That's as maybe, GPB, but Lowry would be a true wild card, a great shotmaker, who most of the US Team would be unfamiliar with, not to mention a potentially better option as a partner for Rory.

IMO: Rory/Sergio  and Kaymer/Stenson will be the A-TEAMS for Europe.  I think the first two sessions revolve around these two pairings.

I have no idea who Doobie might play with.  I think he will be a DUCK out of water at Gleneagles.

Love the Rory/Sergio pairing. The McIlroy/McDowell partnership never worked well - more high fives than great shots.

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Post by pedro Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:14 pm

John Cregan wrote:If RC was next week my WC's would be McDowell, Garcia & Poulter with Lowry,Gallagher, Casey & Westwood in the frame for me.............
Garcia is already qualified.

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Post by sirbenson Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:16 pm

I really don't think GMac and Rory got on any longer....Don't think it is wise to pair them at the next RC

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Post by pedro Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:16 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Qualifying ends at the PGA for the US but Europe has at least a couple more weeks.
This time I think it ends after Czech (world points) and Italy (euro points). Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Post by John Cregan Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:19 pm

pedro wrote:
John Cregan wrote:If RC was next week my WC's would be McDowell, Garcia & Poulter with Lowry,Gallagher, Casey & Westwood in the frame for me.............
Garcia is already qualified.

Sorry,Id go with Lowry then


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Post by sirbenson Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:20 pm

On current form Westwood doesn't deserve a wildcard....I think he will get one if needed though

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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:32 pm

The Italian Open is the last tournament for qualification points for the Euro Team (Aug 31).

Which is two weeks after the USA deadline.

Not sure when the Wildcards are announced.


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Post by pedro Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:37 pm

US wildcards are announced after Deutsche Bank.

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Post by sirbenson Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:44 pm

Do you all think Woods get's a pick?

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Post by SmithersJones Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:45 pm

Not sure why McGinley would consider picking Westwood on this year's form. If he has experience to offer he can do that from the sidelines as a VC.
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Post by GPB Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:20 pm

Reading between the lines of Watson said, Woods has to make FE playoffs to get on the team.

And assuming he does not play Wyndham (plays B-Stone and PGA), there are 4 different ways to do it.

1. Win either tournament.

2. Finish 2nd in BS and 13th in PGA

3. Finish 20th in BS and 2nd in PGA

4. Finish third in both tournaments

(ignoring T2nd scenarios)

He needs at least 380 Pts to make the top 125.

Point Distrubution:


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Post by incontinentia Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:46 am

sirbenson wrote:Do you all think Woods get's a pick?  
Yes.

Don't see how Westwood can get a pick if stories like this are accurate http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/theopen/10972318/The-Open-2014-Lee-Westwood-falls-into-trough-of-despair-over-losing-his-game.html

I hope he can get his game back. Lowry should be considered, he would be suited to a team environment. He and Rory are good buddies and might make a nice pairing now that G mac and Rors aren't too chummy these days. No one talking about Harrington as a pick???
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Post by incontinentia Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:48 am

GPB I'm pretty sure Watson has said if Tigers fit he'll get a pick.
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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:40 am

incontinentia,
Agree about Shane and Rory.

Watson has pretty much said that all Tiger bets are off if he can't prove his form and fitness in the FedEx series.

Likewise, McGinley has said Westwood needs to prove his form.
Luke Donald too I would have thought.

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Post by pedro Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:34 am

incontinentia wrote:No one talking about Harrington as a pick???
Maybe his mum.

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Post by SetupDeterminesTheMotion Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:26 pm

How about the winner of 2 majors in the last two months.. ??? As a Wild Card.
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Post by incontinentia Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:12 pm

SetupDeterminesTheMotion wrote:How about the winner of 2 majors in the last two months.. ??? As a Wild Card.
Booby nine chins?
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Post by SetupDeterminesTheMotion Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:12 pm

SetupDeterminesTheMotion wrote:How about the winner of 2 majors in the last two months.. ??? As a Wild Card.

Yes, how about old Mrs Doubtfire himself as a WC pick ?  censored 
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Post by pedro Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:20 pm

SetupDeterminesTheMotion wrote:
SetupDeterminesTheMotion wrote:How about the winner of 2 majors in the last two months.. ??? As a Wild Card.

Yes, how about old Mrs Doubtfire himself as a WC pick ?    censored 
If applying Tom Watson's apparently doubious criteria for picking, Monty would be a shoe-in.

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Post by GPB Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:31 pm

Doesn't look like Shane or DoDo were interested in going to Canada. I don't see them listed in the field.

Don't expect much movement in the RC standings for the US team this week. Erik Compton is the only player outside the top 9 that is playing this week in Canada.

Charley Hoffman is the next highest ranked player (in US RC Standings) playing in Canada and he can only get to 15th or 16th.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:42 pm

Not that form at Glen Abbey has any relevance at RM but two guys who Watson will want to see play well this week are Hunner Mahan (could have forfeited a win in the name of fatherhood last year) and Watson's mate Snedeker, the Glen Abbey beneficiary.
Both with lots to prove but not too late to gain momentum for Firestone & Valhalla.


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Post by incontinentia Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:43 pm

GPB wrote:Doesn't look like Shane or DoDo were interested in going to Canada.  I don't see them listed in the field.
Don't think the Ryder cup is a big goal for Shane this time around:

From Herald.ie: Lowry, whose previous best at a major was 32nd, made a slow start to 2014, missing the cut in six of his first eight starts.

That means a charge for a place on the European Ryder Cup team for Gleneagles in September is now unlikely, but Lowry said that had not even crossed his mind.

Lowry, whose birdie on the 18th was one of seven in his bogey-free final round, said: "That putt on the last would have helped, but I think I'd have to go over to the (US) PGA (Championship) in a few weeks and do something extra special over there to even have a half a sniff of getting near the team.

"I haven't thought about it all year and I'm not going to start thinking about it now."

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Post by GPB Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:50 pm

Kwini, Are you going to RM this week? Got to be as close if not closer than Hartford.

Wave to my Dad if you see a 92 yr old Bald guy in a Lincoln Town Car while zooming through Franklin County.

Yep...I would think SNEDS and Mahan are on Watson LONG list of wildcard candidates. A win will elevate them to the shortlist. I think Keegan is at the TOP of the shortlist.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:25 pm

GPB,
Yup going up first thing Thursday morning. Hartford more than twice as far away. I'll keep my eyes peeled!
Did I tell you my daughter is taking a teaching job at MVU? Her debut after four years in the private sector.

Agree about Keegs, tho surely he'll seriously consider Mickelson as well?

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Post by GPB Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:16 pm

I really want Mickelson to do it on Merit. He has been on every RC/PC team since 1994 and did it on merit every year since 1994.

That is a streak that will never be broken, IMO.

I am surprised that virtually no one just outside the bubble is playing Canada, No Kirk, No English, No Todd, No Na, No Top Five.

And BTW, there was a lot of WDs this morning from Canada.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:19 pm

No significant w/d's though. Sorry to lose Matty Jones and Bud Cauley, but gain the AxMan and Ollie Goss instead.

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Post by super_realist Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:58 pm

sirbenson wrote:Surely Lowry is playing his way into being talked about being a potential Wildcard no?

I know I'm not contracted to, and I'm under no obligation, but well done to Shane "Billy Bunter" Lowry. A very good Open, although definitely would not pick him for the Ryder Cup.
2 rounds a day would be too much for that fat knacker.


If Watson was to pick Woods, it would only be for the TV ratings in America. Nothing else, I think Watson is too savvy and has to much credibility to yield to such a vulgar request.
Other than TV, there is zero justification for Woods getting a pick. Off form, disinterested, appalling record.

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Post by pedro Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:30 pm

I think Watson is covering his own back by hinting TW needs to make the playoffs to be considered for a pick. With Bridgestone and PGA coming up I would be surprised if TW didn't make enough points to just squeeze in - and thus "earn" a pick. And good for that. TW's presence is good for TV ratings, but not for his team.

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Post by GPB Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:38 pm

Pedro, did you see my post on the scenarios for Woods to make the playoffs. About 10-12 posts above this one.

I just don't see any of those 4 scenarios happening.

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Post by kwinigolfer Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:55 am

GPB,
Does non-member money earned apply in parallel with FedEx points for Tour eligibility, or is it just points?

Karlsson about 132nd in money, but way behind in points.

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Post by GPB Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:11 am

Kwini, I believe everything is FE Points, starting this season.

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