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Post by GPB Sun 20 Jul 2014, 7:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

After the Open Championship....this is what the OWGR top 100 should look like:

1 Adam Scott 9.241
2 Rory McIlroy 8.163 ==> Winner of the Open Championship
3 Henrik Stenson 7.812
4 Justin Rose 7.341
5 Sergio Garcia 7.050
6 Bubba Watson 6.805
7 Matt Kuchar 6.655
8 Jason Day 6.397
9 Tiger Woods 6.230
10 Jim Furyk 6.022
11 Jordan Spieth 5.788
12 Martin Kaymer 5.431
13 Phil Mickelson 5.232
14 Dustin Johnson 5.001
15 Zach Johnson 5.085
16 Graeme McDowell 4.831
17 Hideki Matsuyama 4.798
18 Rickie Fowler 4.664
19 Jimmy Walker 4.199
20 Steve Stricker 4.052
21 Charl Schwartzel 3.991
22 Victor Dubuisson 3.999
23 Keegan Bradley 3.932
24 Luke Donald 3.929
25 Jason Dufner 3.866
26 Thomas Bjorn 3.817
27 Miguel A Jimenez 3.606
28 Ian Poulter 3.586
29 Webb Simpson 3.524
30 Patrick Reed 3.515
31 Stephen Gallacher 3.401
32 Jamie Donaldson 3.395
33 Thongchai Jaidee 3.294
34 Lee Westwood 3.237
35 Brandt Snedeker 3.152
36 Bill Haas 3.147
37 Kevin Na 3.096
38 Graham Delaet 3.083
39 Ryan Moore 3.038
40 Kevin Streelman 3.003
41 Brendon Todd 2.921
42 Francesco Molinari 2.867
43 Chris Kirk 2.780
44 Hunter Mahan 2.706
45 Jonas Blixt 2.682
46 Joost Luiten 2.644
47 Gary Woodland 2.593
48 Harris English 2.585
49 Matt Every 2.585
50 Mikko Ilonen 2.549
======== Bridgestone Bubble Point
51 Marc Leishman 2.533
52 Angel Cabrera 2.517
53 Matt Jones 2.515
54 Louis Oosthuizen 2.508
55 Kevin Stadler 2.470
56 Billy Horschel 2.415
57 John Senden 2.389
58 Russell Henley 2.281
59 Shane Lowry 2.269
60 Koumei Oda 2.199
61 Pablo Larrazabal 2.196
62 Ryan Palmer 2.179
63 Ernie Els 2.156
64 J.B. Holmes 2.117
65 Matteo Manassero 2.116
66 Brian Harman 2.091
67 Charley Hoffman 2.075
68 George Coetzee 2.070
69 Richard Sterne 2.047
70 Bernd Wiesberger 2.026
71 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 2.021
72 K.J. Choi 1.961
73 Rafael Cabrera Bello 1.905
74 Erik Compton 1.860
75 Ben Martin 1.837
76 Charles Howell-III 1.822
77 Brooks Koepka 1.795
78 Ryo Ishikawa 1.793
79 Chris Stroud 1.783
80 Fredrik Jacobson 1.778
81 Paul Casey 1.759
82 Nick Watney 1.744
83 Boo Weekley 1.739
84 George McNeill 1.733
85 Brendon de Jonge 1.733
86 Anirban Lahiri 1.712
87 Chesson Hadley 1.698
88 Scott Stallings 1.677
89 Chris Wood 1.592
90 Kim Hyung-sung 1.589
91 Tommy Fleetwood 1.574
92 Ross Fisher 1.564
93 David Hearn 1.562
94 Thorbjorn Olesen 1.562
95 Branden Grace 1.541
96 Daniel Summerhays 1.538
97 Marc Warren 1.515
98 Danny Willett 1.515
99 Fabrizio Zanotti 1.502
100 Ben Crane 1.502
============ Usually the top 100 get into the PGA Championship
101 Russell Knox 1.496
102 Noh Seung-yul 1.485
103 Will Mackenzie 1.475


And the Euro Ryder Cup Standings (World Points)  Top 20

1 Rory McIlroy 358.26
2 Henrik Stenson 346.99

3 Sergio Garcia 317.40
4 Justin Rose 261.33
5 Martin Kaymer 245.87
6 Thomas Bjorn 193.77

7 Victor Dubuisson 186.97
8 Luke Donald 162.44
9 Jamie Donaldson 162.23
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10 Stephen Gallacher 154.44
11 Graeme McDowell 150.93
12 Ian Poulter 147.43
13 Miguel Jimenez 140.61
14 Francesco Molinari 133.44
15 Joost Luiten 123.50
16 Lee Westwood 106.57
17 Pablo Larrazabal 106.27
18 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 94.22
19 Shane Lowry 93.20
20 Mikko Ilonen 92.22


Bolded Players in via the Euro list
Italicized Players in via the World Point list.


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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 22 Jul 2014, 1:35 am

That's what I thought, but Rotoworld's entry today on Jason Allred refers to his money earned - wondered how relevant that is.
We'll see soon enough!

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Post by GPB Tue 22 Jul 2014, 4:26 pm

Contacted Robo on another board and Karlsson can get his PGATour via the phantom money list.

If he can get into Reno and Greensboro, he has a pretty good chance.

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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 22 Jul 2014, 4:58 pm

Cheers GPB, (robo),
Was hoping that would be the case. Can't find anything on his web-site (which doesn't seem to be updated) or the Reno tournament site about player commitments - guess we'll just have to wait.
He might well get in to G'boro given;
~He's almost a local (has a home in Charlotte).
~I think Carl Pettersson is still on the tournament committee. Hope they're friends!

Fingers crossed - he's been just a stroke away from important thresholds for nine months now!

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Post by GPB Wed 23 Jul 2014, 2:59 pm

36 points for the winner of the Canadian Open as of Wed morning.

This weeks Canadian Open winner will qualify for Bridgestone, No one else can qualify.

Kuchar can get back to #4 with a win
Furyk can get to #6
Dustin and GMAC can get to #13

Ryder Cup Impacts:

Erik Compton is the only player in the field that can play himself into the Top 9 for the US Team.

Luke (currently 8th) can move past Doobie and Bjorn into #6 in the World Points rankings with a win.

However, Luke is vulnerable of falling out of the Top Nine if he does not play well this week

GMac (currently 11th) can move ahead of Luke in the World Point rankings (and just behing behind Doobie) with a win. A 3rd place for GMAC could nudge Luke if Luke Whiffs this week.

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Post by kwinigolfer Wed 23 Jul 2014, 7:05 pm

Very intrigued to read Rob Bolton's column confirming that the Top 125 in money earned, whilst not eligible for the FedEx Play-Offs, nevertheless secure a Tour card for '14/'15. Had thought last year saw the end of that loophole.
That benefits Mike Weir who is almost assured of Top 125 on the money-list, plus offers hope to half a dozen less well-known others.

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Post by GPB Wed 23 Jul 2014, 7:30 pm

Kwini: You got a link to that column?

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Post by kwinigolfer Wed 23 Jul 2014, 7:44 pm

http://www.pgatour.com/content/pgatour/fantasy-insider/2014/07/23/RBC-canadian-open.html

Almost seems as if he hadn't sussed it either!

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Post by GPB Wed 23 Jul 2014, 8:36 pm

Thanks kwini.

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Post by GPB Wed 23 Jul 2014, 9:41 pm

Vijay Singh's weeks in the top 200 could be coming to an abrupt ending.

Ranked 195th going into Canada, he probably needs to get some points this week if he wants to stay in the top 200.

he has been in top 200 for over 25 years. Since Feb 1989.

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Post by GPB Fri 25 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm

Luke highly vulnerable of falling out of the Euro Top 9.

Luke is trunkslamming and GMAC is playing well. GMAC needs a 3rd place to displace Luke from the Euro Top 9.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 26 Jul 2014, 4:39 am

For a variety of reasons, it would be healthy all around if McDool passed Donald in the RC points list - Donald seems to have been playing so poorly since Wentworth and the trauma with his child being born when he was in absentia.
Can't imagine St.Luke will fare much better at Firestone or Valhalla by which time McGinley may avert his gaze from the likes of Donald & Westwood, and start to look at the guys in form.
Hopefully LD and LW will turn it round, but neither seems much in love with golf right now.

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Post by super_realist Sat 26 Jul 2014, 8:37 am

I wouldn't be too bothered if LW and LD didn't make it.
They've got outstanding RC records, and it would be a shame to sully them by being selected when not in form.
Poults is probably nailed on though, despite his form dip this year.

THe American team isn't looking too inspired or intimidating and there are plenty of other Europeans who could line up against them without any sense of foreboding or trepidation.

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Post by Diggers Sat 26 Jul 2014, 10:14 am

Has Poulter had a form dip? He usually has long patches of being nothing and then grabs a lot of OWGR points in meaningless end of year jamborees. It's not like he's spent very much of his long career in the top 10.
A decent career but overhyped because of his shameless self promotion and RC exploits.

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Post by pedro Sat 26 Jul 2014, 11:26 am

Poulter was 12th at the beginning of the year, now he's 28th. That should indicate a form dip.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 26 Jul 2014, 11:30 am

Lots of truth in that Digs, every time Poulter goes thru a dry spell like this current drought one wonders whether he's "peaked", destined perhaps to rue opportunities not taken earlier in his career.
Doubtless he'll play at Gleneagles but if he loses his Ryder Cup magic Europe could be in trouble.

Westwood plays his record 48th WGC this coming week at the Bridgestone, and then the PGA; think he and Sergio lead the way among the current crop for most Majors played without winning one. Hope that record is made to be broken with both winning soon!

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Post by Diggers Sat 26 Jul 2014, 11:44 am

pedro wrote:Poulter was 12th at the beginning of the year, now he's 28th. That should indicate a form dip.

Point being Pedro it's what he does most seasons.

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Post by Diggers Sat 26 Jul 2014, 11:49 am

True Kwini. Lots of chances for lease players to step up and win majors in the past 5 years. Poultry hasn't managed to do that.

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Post by pedro Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:02 pm

Diggers wrote:
pedro wrote:Poulter was 12th at the beginning of the year, now he's 28th. That should indicate a form dip.

Point being Pedro it's what he does most seasons.
True dat, Digs. Would like to see him contend more regularly, especially the next couple of months before the RC.

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Post by incontinentia Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:16 pm

Would love to see Poulter get clobbered by Woods in the singles.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:17 pm

Must be odds against Woods even making it to Scotland . . . . . .

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Post by John Cregan Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:19 pm

Hoping US win this Ryder Cup for the sake of the event going forward plus i don't think i could cope listening to Paul McGinley telling us how it was the greatest experience of his life for the next 20 years.

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Post by incontinentia Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:27 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Must be odds against Woods even making it to Scotland . . . . . .
True, love to see it happen anyway.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:42 pm

John,
Small price (for us in North America anyway) to pay for winning the RC by a large margin.
(Now we have Montgomerie's blather monopolising Senior golf coverage, so I know what you mean! Like McEnroe in that the older he gets the better he was, porkies dispensed shamelessly to a public that doesn't know the difference.)

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Post by pedro Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:54 pm

Hopefully we won't hear of McGinley after th RC.

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Post by GPB Sat 26 Jul 2014, 3:36 pm

Some projections of the Canadian Open contenders should they win.

Petrovic goes to about #180 if he wins (from #613th)

Furyk becauses #6 should he win, as long as Kuchar finishes 5th or worse.

Delaet gets into Top 30 and Stanley goes to about #108th

GMAC goes to #13 if he wins

Kuchar will barely pass Justin Rose to #4 if he wins.

And the SuperRealist Tiger in the top 10 watch. Furyk needs solo 6th or better to pass Tiger. (and Tiger will be #10)


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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 27 Jul 2014, 11:57 am

Number ten for Tiger then.
There is a street right by the course called Rue Tonty. Just saying.

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Post by GPB Sun 27 Jul 2014, 8:23 pm

GMAC is going to finished in a 3 way T9th which should get him 5.04 world Points.  

Just enough to pass Gallacher and goto 10th spot in the World Pts rankings for the Euro RC team.

8. Luke Donald 162.44
9. Donaldson 162.23
10. McDowell 155.97
11. Gallacher 154.44
12. Poulter 147.43
13. Jimenez 140.61
14. F. Molinari 133.44

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Post by GPB Sun 27 Jul 2014, 8:46 pm

Tim Clark jumps to about 74th in the rankings.

Furyk leapfrogs Tiger and Jason Day to #8.

Kuchar moves up one spot ahead of Bubba to #6.

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With his win in Russia, David Horsey moves up to about 118th.

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Post by GPB Mon 28 Jul 2014, 9:30 pm

Adam Scotts #1 ranking is vulnerable

Rory has to win...and Adam outside the top 5

Henrik has to win...and Adam outside the top 40.

Several scenarios for SuperRealist's Summer wish to come true.  Tiger out of the top 10.    anyone down to #18 Rickie Fowler can knock Tiger out of the top 10.  But basically anyone from Kaymer on down needs to finish 3rd or better.

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Post by GPB Wed 30 Jul 2014, 3:50 pm

With 76 points and a 9 Million Dollar purse there is a lot of Potential Shakeup in both RC Teams the next two weeks.


In the Euro List

#15 Gonzo can crash the Top 4 with a win



In the Euro Points list:

#21 Mikko Ilonen can crash the top Nine with a win


On the US Side, players all the way down to #25 Kevin Streelman can claim a spot in the top 9.

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Post by GPB Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:52 pm

Molinari (currently T5) needs a solo third or better to have any chance of getting into the Top 9.

A 4 way T5th gets him 14.82 points, barely ahead of #12 Poulter, assuming Poulter does not earn any points.

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 01 Aug 2014, 2:19 am

Molinari's trump (hate that word now!) card may be that the final qualifying tournament for European qualification is the Italian Open, in Turin, where Franny is a past Champion.
Regardless, hope he qualifies.

We're now looking at the US Top Ten and imagine Tom Watson will see that as a get-out-of-jail card, but he still needs some top performances from his top players.

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Post by GPB Sat 02 Aug 2014, 2:08 pm

Interesting to note that WGC payouts are not as top heavy as normal PGATournaments.  Less money for Top 20 players (as a percentage of purse) means more money for the bottom feeders

For instance, PGATour winners normally get 18% of the total purse.
This week, the winner is getting 17%.
A two way second normally gets 8.8% of the purse (per player), it gets 8.4% this week

A three way T13 at Doral paid $113,000 where it would get $174,000 if it had a normal PGATour payout.

That means someone like Ryan Moore who is T10 going is not making as big of an impact on Zach and Dufner who are ~T25 and ~T50 something in the Ryder Cup standings as you might expect.

That said, Ryan and Keegan are still making a move, although not as big as one would expect

Top Five looks to be confirming his spot in the Top Nine Ten of the RC Standings.
Keegan and Ryan is looking to get right on the bubble.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 02 Aug 2014, 2:15 pm

GPB,
I wonder how Dufner's bulging disc will affect his fitness and his schedule. Can't imagine he'd be a candidate to play 36 holes a day even if he qualifies, which at the moment looks tenuous to say the least.

Can't imagine Bradley not getting there somehow, and even Watson's mate Snedeker has had a decent summer. Plus, happy to see signs of competitive life from Hunner.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:18 pm

McDowell making a strong statement of intent this morning (-6 after 12 holes) after never having fared well in past trips to Firestone.
Westwood going in the other direction, Donaldson & Molinari treading water.

Conceivable that this week's results could push Garcia and/or Rose in to the Top 4 World Points qualifying table.

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Post by GPB Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:35 pm

GMAC is having a wonderful round and trending to ~12 OWGR points which will be enough to pass Luke and his Son

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Post by GPB Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:39 pm

Kwini:

Looks the Euros have 4 players in great form (Rory, Sergio, Justin and GMAC).  And 1 player is so-so form (Stenson) and the rest of the team is playing badly.

Kaymer can't shake the Pinehurst Hangover.

Assuming GMAC makes the team on merit, who would you pick right now?

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:51 pm

Kaymer played horrible in Round 1, but pretty good from then on.
And Dubuisson's not doing badly on his first visit whilst Bjorn is quietly consolidating in T13.

For me:
Rose, McIlroy, Dubuisson, Stenson
Rose, Garcia, Bjorn, McDowell
plus Donald or Donaldson.
Then I'd choose Poulter, Donald or Donaldson and Molinari.

Westwood would have to stay home and, sadly, Gallacher too though wouldn't be surprised if he played well at Valhalla.

Gallacher could get a "home" pick though, possibly instead of Donaldson if Jamie didn't make it.

Strong team though, great balance.


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Post by GPB Sat 02 Aug 2014, 6:33 pm

Back of the envelope calculations that a T4 is not enough to put Keegan into the top 9 Qualification, but it does put him ahead of Mickelson for the bubble spot.  Ryan Moore would be right behing Mickelson and Tood.

This is my best guess  (rankings are w/o Dustin in the mix)

7 Dufner 3,566
8 ZachJ        3,528
9 PReed 3,451
10 Keegn        3,313
11 PMick  3,250
12 Moore 3,229

With double points next week, whoever plays the best is going to get a spot in the Ryder Cup.

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Post by super_realist Sat 02 Aug 2014, 7:02 pm

How far is Garcia going to climb if he closes out this tournament?

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 02 Aug 2014, 7:26 pm

s_r,
I'd guess 2nd or 3rd depending upon how Rory finishes.

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Post by GPB Sat 02 Aug 2014, 7:30 pm

Should Garcia win, he will be #2, as long as Rory does not finish solo third or better.

And Stenson doesn't finish solo 2nd.

There is actually a chance that Rory falls to #5 in the rankings if he finishes outside the top 20.  (which does not look likely).

Stenson, Rose, and Garcia can all pass him.

Looks like Woods tenure in the top 10 is going to continue for at least another week as no one from #11 to #18 is doing anything noteworthy except for Fowler and he has to win.

The PGA is another week.

Barring a win next week, Tiger will not be in the FEDEX playoffs as their are no Captain Picks.  (I don't think he is going to play Wyndham, but Steiny might be in negotiations)

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Post by GPB Sun 03 Aug 2014, 11:14 pm

#8 #9 #10 update in the Euro World Pt Rankins

GMAC is going to pass Luke and Jamie in the World Points and Jamie is going to tread water because he is pass Luke.

But there is going to be less than two points separating them going into the PGA.

I think Jamie is going to be notched out of the top 4 in the Euro Rankings. (but it is going to be close)

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 03 Aug 2014, 11:43 pm

Wrinkle in all this is the incoming approach of Baby McDool, due in a few weeks and that will potential derail his chase for "Points". Certain Captain's Choice however.

Patrick Reed the big winner in the US List, Keegs squandering a big chance this back nine.

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Post by GPB Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:05 am

Father McDool got a small baby gift from Adam Scott 

Adam crashing and burning got GMAC and extra 0.5 ranking points.

and Yep, Top Five should have passed Zach and Dufner with that eagle on 17.

Keegs spent a few Ryder Cup points with his finish.  I don't think he is too happy right now.  T4 should put him pretty close with Mickelson at the de facto #10 spot.

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Post by lorus59 Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:15 pm

Would I be correct in saying that none of the current top 5 has attended a college golf program in the USA? I wonder if that has happened before.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 04 Aug 2014, 1:02 pm

Adam Scott attended UNLV for a year or so . . . . . .

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